Here another map, showing the more important archaeological cultures (very roughly, surely not always correct geographically in detail, but its more about their relative positions) for the MBA-LBA which are of importance for the debate:
https://ibb.co/0FKRTHC
Would anyone add another cultural formation as a potentially important group for the E-V13 spread in the LBA-EIA?
Its also worth to mention how often on YFull, which covers at best half of the lineages, specific TMRCAs appear.
5.000 x 0
4.900 x 0
4.800 x 0
4.700 x 0
4.600 x 1
4.500 x 0
4.400 x 5
4.100 x 0
4.200 x 0
4.100 x 5
4.000 x 10
3.900 x 7
3.800 x 14
3.700 x 3
3.600 x 3
3.500 x 2
3.400 x 7
3.300 x 4
3.200 x 5
3.100 x 13
3.000 x 12
2.900 x 10
2.800 x 12
2.700 x 13
2.600 x 4
2.500 x 14
2.400 x 7
2.300 x 12
2.200 x 5
2.100 x 6
2.000 x 1
1.900 x 0
1.800 x 4
1.700 x 2
1.600 x 2
1.500 x 4
1.400 x 7
1.300 x 6
1.200 x 7
1.100 x 9
1.000 x 9
900 x 6
800 x 5
700 x 12
600 x 2
500 x 8
I used that for a graph, to illustrate the pattern better and added the main events of importance:
https://ibb.co/0MrjSBW
I think the pattern is pretty clear and as for the timings, 1-2 centuries up or down won't change the bigger picture in most these instances. I was surprised myself how big the obvious impact of Tumulus Culture and the Celtic-Roman invasions was. These were by far the biggest shocks, major events, against the good run E-V13 had before and after these major negative turning points.
The effect of these two events is obviously as big or bigger than the Avar, Germanic and Slavic tribal migrations, at least if talking about absolute numbers, relative percentage, that's another thing. Obviously the data on YFull is not as good (complete, big, otherwise excellent of course) than on FTDNA, especially for the newer, younger branches, but I think the result is still ok and usable.
https://ibb.co/0FKRTHC
Would anyone add another cultural formation as a potentially important group for the E-V13 spread in the LBA-EIA?
Its also worth to mention how often on YFull, which covers at best half of the lineages, specific TMRCAs appear.
5.000 x 0
4.900 x 0
4.800 x 0
4.700 x 0
4.600 x 1
4.500 x 0
4.400 x 5
4.100 x 0
4.200 x 0
4.100 x 5
4.000 x 10
3.900 x 7
3.800 x 14
3.700 x 3
3.600 x 3
3.500 x 2
3.400 x 7
3.300 x 4
3.200 x 5
3.100 x 13
3.000 x 12
2.900 x 10
2.800 x 12
2.700 x 13
2.600 x 4
2.500 x 14
2.400 x 7
2.300 x 12
2.200 x 5
2.100 x 6
2.000 x 1
1.900 x 0
1.800 x 4
1.700 x 2
1.600 x 2
1.500 x 4
1.400 x 7
1.300 x 6
1.200 x 7
1.100 x 9
1.000 x 9
900 x 6
800 x 5
700 x 12
600 x 2
500 x 8
I used that for a graph, to illustrate the pattern better and added the main events of importance:
https://ibb.co/0MrjSBW
I think the pattern is pretty clear and as for the timings, 1-2 centuries up or down won't change the bigger picture in most these instances. I was surprised myself how big the obvious impact of Tumulus Culture and the Celtic-Roman invasions was. These were by far the biggest shocks, major events, against the good run E-V13 had before and after these major negative turning points.
The effect of these two events is obviously as big or bigger than the Avar, Germanic and Slavic tribal migrations, at least if talking about absolute numbers, relative percentage, that's another thing. Obviously the data on YFull is not as good (complete, big, otherwise excellent of course) than on FTDNA, especially for the newer, younger branches, but I think the result is still ok and usable.