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    Justice vs Peace

    In EU, looks like France and Germany want Peace, but UK, and most of East Euro countries for Justice. Outside EU, it seems to me that they don't want war to be longer except USA, even if they save their words. Poor countries start to hate war b/c all the money goes into Ukraine. Of course, oil countries in middle east would have poker faces in public room, but big smiles in private room. Hunger-stricken people in middle east and africa would pack their stuff preparing to go to Europe. Clean Energy policies becomes to be none of any countries's business, b/c coal price is going up and up to near sky. Under current situation, Fancy Tesla EV is nothing but a coal car. Which one do you want, peace or justice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johen View Post
    Justice vs Peace

    In EU, looks like France and Germany want Peace, but UK, and most of East Euro countries for Justice. Outside EU, it seems to me that they don't want war to be longer except USA, even if they save their words. Poor countries start to hate war b/c all the money goes into Ukraine. Of course, oil countries in middle east would have poker faces in public room, but big smiles in private room. Hunger-stricken people in middle east and africa would pack their stuff preparing to go to Europe. Clean Energy policies becomes to be none of any countries's business, b/c coal price is going up and up to near sky. Under current situation, Fancy Tesla EV is nothing but a coal car. Which one do you want, peace or justice?
    No peace without justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bicicleur View Post
    No peace without justice.
    For the sake of Justice, I think EU should fully support uyghur people by fight against China which is a lifeline to Russia now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johen View Post
    Justice vs Peace

    In EU, looks like France and Germany want Peace, but UK, and most of East Euro countries for Justice. Outside EU, it seems to me that they don't want war to be longer except USA, even if they save their words. Poor countries start to hate war b/c all the money goes into Ukraine. Of course, oil countries in middle east would have poker faces in public room, but big smiles in private room. Hunger-stricken people in middle east and africa would pack their stuff preparing to go to Europe. Clean Energy policies becomes to be none of any countries's business, b/c coal price is going up and up to near sky. Under current situation, Fancy Tesla EV is nothing but a coal car. Which one do you want, peace or justice?
    PLZ
    Nobody will come to Europe, if the 'slave merchants' do not push situation.
    remember BelloRussian effort anf the plane flights from Turkey,
    All this immigration is programmed by certain identyfied policies.
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    Divine blindness conquers them
    Hybris (abuse, opprombium) is born
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    Quote Originally Posted by johen View Post
    For the sake of Justice, I think EU should fully support uyghur people by fight against China which is a lifeline to Russia now.
    This is a ban on Religion over State policy ..............China already attacked Christian religious fervour about 10 or more years ago ..............There policy is for no religious agendas against the government.

    Nothing was done against the Christians in China, why ?
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    There are words which carry the presage of defeat. Defence is such a word. What is the result of an even victorious defence? The next attempt of imposing it to that weaker, defender. The attacker, despite temporary setback, feels the master of situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johen View Post
    For the sake of Justice, I think EU should fully support uyghur people by fight against China which is a lifeline to Russia now.
    by what means?

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    they should try "liberate" Odessa imho

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    I really do not know if it is true or fake news
    but seems the president and generals are not in good relations,

    most possible, is Zalushny to take control of country,

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    According to my "distant R1b-L617 cousin" - Mr. Purzycki (Purickas / Purickis) from Lithuania - the Romanov dynasty were R1b-L617:

    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post522690


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    According to my "distant R1b-L617 cousin" - Mr. Purzycki (Purickas / Purickis) from Lithuania - the Romanov dynasty were R1b-L617:

    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post522690

    ^^^ Russia died when the Romanov dynasty died.

    Russian people are good people, our Slavic brothers.

    Russian people need to regain freedom, like Poles did:



    You can do it, you can overthrow Putin - Romanovs still live in Belarus and in Ukraine:

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-L617/

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    Who are these Belarusians and Ukrainians with R1b-L617, I could not find ANY information about who they are:

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-FT156400/

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    They started popping out like crazy in that YFull tree about January and February 2022, if I remember correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    Who are these Belarusians and Ukrainians with R1b-L617, I could not find ANY information about who they are:

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-FT156400/

    ^^^
    They started popping out like crazy in that YFull tree about January and February 2022, if I remember correctly.
    stingy expats ===> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_people#Poland

    https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szkoci_w_Polsce

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    ^^^ I recommend the movie Special Military Operation Z with Brad Pitt:


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    I recommend "The Soviet Story" 2008 documentary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7IrB_6mX4k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    It has more to do with money and greed on the part of home sellers, than importing populations. There is a lot of wealth that the Chinese put overseas so they don't have to give it to their government at home. From their position, what they're doing is smart; I would do the same thing. Though I think Vancouver put restrictions against them. In the USA, back when we were buying our house, there were terrible bidding wars because of this dynamic. But thankfully, we got lucky and were able to find our home at a price that wasn't preposterous.
    This is very much true, money laundering which enters our banks and never gets taxed. I'm not quite sure how they do it, but the banks are complicit in it, possibly because there are other Chinese within high positions in the Canadian banks who allow it to happen. Take for example the criminal Meng, daughter of the criminal organization Huawei who stole all the Nortel intellectual property. How is she able to afford a 10 million+ dollar home in Vancouver? I don't doubt she has that cash due to her position, but was any of it taxed? Highly unlikely

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    <amy times Ispoke about Diomedes island,
    and the USA-RUSSIA peacefull, quiet and cooperate borders,

    and thedivison of Erope, to old Iron curtain, modern new World order etc,
    generally the struggle of Europe

    the must, the own, the forced, etc embargo to Russian oil and gas.
    or ,the other 'Free World' or how to struggle more the weak nations and states,

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian...w_article_pos4

    https://www.businessinsider.in/stock...w/91945785.cms

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/russi...2qpSiNzoAmW6FH


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    Death to Putler Anachronic Bolshevik Criminal Dictator.

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    The Many Deaths of Vladimir Putin

    https://cepa.org/the-many-deaths-of-vladimir-putin/

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    “London will be bombed first in World War III”

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    Very good and objective lecture on the conflict:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qciVozNtCDM

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    Who is responsible for Ukraine's war,

    Ukraine was thethird nuclear power in the world,
    Nobody would dare to invade her,
    But what happened?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budape...ity_Assurances

    Ukraine changed the nuclear stockpile, with a promise and a guarantee from RUSSIA USA and UK.
    for her boarders, indepedence and sovereign,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    Who is responsible for Ukraine's war,

    Ukraine was thethird nuclear power in the world,
    Nobody would dare to invade her,
    But what happened?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budape...ity_Assurances

    Ukraine changed the nuclear stockpile, with a promise and a guarantee from RUSSIA USA and UK.
    for her boarders, indepedence and sovereign,
    Exactly, Russia agreed to gurantee for a sovereign state, independent from both blocks. At the same time the agreement was made that NATO wouldn't expand Eastwards. Therefore the conditions under which the guarantee was given have changed and the initial agreements broken. That's exactly the cause of the problem.
    American intervention with a coup, creating a hostile state at Russias border, which tried to cut off its Russian population and indoctrinate it against Russia. Militarisation of the Ukraine by the USA, plans for bringing Ukraine into NATO.

    If those steps wouldn't have been taken by Ukraine, there wouldn't have been a war. Everybody can listen, carefully, to Mearsheimer, which is on point.

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