bicicleur 2
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Indeed.
Why wasn't Turkey treated the same way as Russia now, when they invaded Syria? A sovereign state on paper and the North was even defended by a cooperation of the Kurds with the Syrian National Forces. The same Kurds, which were supported by the US and got guarantees from the US government. Which were praised as war heroes in their gender-equal fight against the evil Islamic State, as the Western media put it, unlike the other Syrian forces, which were just suppressing "freedom fighters".
Erdogan did, with brutal means, just invade that region. He didn't even have the ethnic argument, he just didn't care and his forces are still there, supporting radical Islamists in the region. What were the consequences for Erdogan and Turkey? Surely not as bad as what is happening now to Russia, which had way better reasons in a direct comparison.
That is a double standard by the "International Community". If you read this, where is the difference, the Western powers even supplied the Kurds with weapons just like the Ukrainians. The only difference is, that Turkey is an important ally of the Western alliance up to this point, even if it became an Islamist dictatorship which suppresses its own and foreign people.
But just read this, you just need to exchange the countries and ethnicities, and you get the same thing as Putin/Lawrow are saying, aren't you?
https://ahvalnews.com/turkey-syria/...occupying-power-syria-erdogans-spokesman-says
They weaken the Kurds, so that the IS can spread again. But nobody cares any longer, because it would be "inconvenient".
I agree with you that more had to be done to support the Kurds.
It was a genuine case of self defense, hoping to create their own state in their own homeland.
And they seemed capable of organising themselves.
So I don't understand why you don't want to defend and support the Ukrainiens in this case.
As for Afghanistan, this is a divided country with clans fighting each other for their bit, but no one to defend or unify the country.
The ambition here was never to install democracy, which was impossible. The idea was to give Islamic fundamentalism a blow.
Islamic fundamentalism is still there, but at least the export of it is restricted.
I was also no supporter for the 'Arabian spring' as there were no structures to govern these countries and it was predictable that it would end in the same corruption and power struggles and fighting as before.
As for Turkey, I believe this is the last year for Erdogan, not that he will be beaten but that the country is going bankrupt and he will loose all support, despite the Turks being very nationalistic.
But this is a different story, of course.
And my guess is that within 15 years a new Erdogan will rise.
The country won't have changed by then.