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Thread: Ancient Italy K8 Model (Dodecad K12b)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ιωάννης Γαβριήλ View Post
    That's probably because you don't have Indigenous American DNA, I use it as a proxy, because if I don't I end up with a lot of Bolshoy_Ostrov and that wouldn't make any sense, also because the percentage of Nganassan in there is basically the same percentage of indigenous DNA from my company test.
    My aDNA tests show no Native American ancestry, and when it does, it's always background noise (< 1%). But it’s a fact that I have an indigenous ancestor in my matrilineal lineage. The result of my test FTDNA mtDNA Full Sequence shows that my mtDNA is B2. YFull's mitochondrial tree, still under construction, points out that I belong to very new subclade of B2. Most likely, my indigenous ancestry was being diluted until it approached zero due to successive marriages with individuals who did not have Native American ancestry.


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    My new results with various additions:


    Distance to: italouruguayan

    21.87160488 Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
    23.91085557 C6-Imperial_Rome_(n=12)
    36.77070029 Anatolian_BA:I2495:Lazaridis_2017
    36.82224192 Anatolian_BA:I2499:Lazaridis_2017
    38.92345951 Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
    39.24189598 Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017
    39.76766526 Anatolian_BA:I2683:Lazaridis_2017
    40.46768835 Minoan:Petras_EBA:Pta08:Clemente_2021
    40.67994223 Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
    41.37306491 C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
    41.37859350 Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
    41.68839647 C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
    41.70165105 Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
    41.86577958 C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019

    Target: italouruguayan

    Distance: 3.9881% / 3.98809359
    25.8 Minoan
    24.1 Yamnaya
    18.8 Remedello
    17.9 Bolshoy_Ostrov
    6.6 C_Italian_N
    4.6 Iberomaurusian
    2.2 Bantu

    Distance to: italouruguayan

    11.04475463 46.20% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.80% C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
    11.09188334 46.40% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.60% C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
    11.09496285 46.60% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.40% C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
    11.14321878 45.80% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 54.20% C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
    11.16010412 46.20% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.80% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
    11.19277049 45.80% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 54.20% C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019

    My main matches changed. What surprises me is that the addition of Nganassan has not caused significant changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by italouruguayan View Post
    My new results with various additions:


    Distance to: italouruguayan

    21.87160488 Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
    23.91085557 C6-Imperial_Rome_(n=12)
    36.77070029 Anatolian_BA:I2495:Lazaridis_2017
    36.82224192 Anatolian_BA:I2499:Lazaridis_2017
    38.92345951 Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
    39.24189598 Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017
    39.76766526 Anatolian_BA:I2683:Lazaridis_2017
    40.46768835 Minoan:Petras_EBA:Pta08:Clemente_2021
    40.67994223 Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
    41.37306491 C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
    41.37859350 Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
    41.68839647 C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
    41.70165105 Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
    41.86577958 C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019

    Target: italouruguayan

    Distance: 3.9881% / 3.98809359
    25.8 Minoan
    24.1 Yamnaya
    18.8 Remedello
    17.9 Bolshoy_Ostrov
    6.6 C_Italian_N
    4.6 Iberomaurusian
    2.2 Bantu

    Distance to: italouruguayan

    11.04475463 46.20% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.80% C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
    11.09188334 46.40% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.60% C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
    11.09496285 46.60% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.40% C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
    11.14321878 45.80% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 54.20% C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
    11.16010412 46.20% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.80% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
    11.19277049 45.80% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 54.20% C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019

    My main matches changed. What surprises me is that the addition of Nganassan has not caused significant changes.
    You can try with this version of Nganasan, it worked better for me :)

    Code:
    Nganasan,0.13,90.28,0.06,0.40,0.02,1.09,0.15,0.08,0.02,7.63,0,0.13

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    Quote Originally Posted by italouruguayan View Post
    My new results with various additions:
    Distance to: italouruguayan
    21.87160488 Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
    23.91085557 C6-Imperial_Rome_(n=12)
    36.77070029 Anatolian_BA:I2495:Lazaridis_2017
    36.82224192 Anatolian_BA:I2499:Lazaridis_2017
    38.92345951 Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
    39.24189598 Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017
    39.76766526 Anatolian_BA:I2683:Lazaridis_2017
    40.46768835 Minoan:Petras_EBA:Pta08:Clemente_2021
    40.67994223 Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
    41.37306491 C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
    41.37859350 Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
    41.68839647 C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
    41.70165105 Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
    41.86577958 C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
    Target: italouruguayan
    Distance: 3.9881% / 3.98809359
    25.8 Minoan
    24.1 Yamnaya
    18.8 Remedello
    17.9 Bolshoy_Ostrov
    6.6 C_Italian_N
    4.6 Iberomaurusian
    2.2 Bantu
    Distance to: italouruguayan
    11.04475463 46.20% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.80% C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
    11.09188334 46.40% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.60% C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
    11.09496285 46.60% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.40% C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
    11.14321878 45.80% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 54.20% C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
    11.16010412 46.20% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.80% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
    11.19277049 45.80% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 54.20% C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
    My main matches changed. What surprises me is that the addition of Nganassan has not caused significant changes.
    Wow, you are just not close to anybody are you? You must have a lot of admixture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsnake49 View Post
    Wow, you are just not close to anybody are you? You must have a lot of admixture.

    Yes, as it appears in my personal data. My mother had the typical "Latin American Mix", European, Native American and African, and my father is ethnically 100% Italian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ιωάννης Γαβριήλ View Post
    You can try with this version of Nganasan, it worked better for me :)

    Code:
    Nganasan,0.13,90.28,0.06,0.40,0.02,1.09,0.15,0.08,0.02,7.63,0,0.13
    Now, with Nganassan... not much has changed. Thank you Ιωάννης Γαβριήλ!


    Distance to: italouruguayan

    10.16718631 18.80% Bolshoy_Ostrov:3473±87:BOO006:Lamnidis_2018 + 81.20% Hallstatt/Early_La_Tène:Hallstatt_C-Early_La_Tène_IA:NOR3-15:Brunel_2020
    10.48876310 89.20% Hallstatt/Early_La_Tène:Hallstatt_C-Early_La_Tène_IA:NOR3-15:Brunel_2020 + 10.80% Nganasan
    11.04475463 46.20% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.80% C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
    11.09188334 46.40% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.60% C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
    11.09496285 46.60% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.40% C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
    11.14321878 45.80% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 54.20% C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
    11.16010412 46.20% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.80% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
    11.19277049 45.80% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 54.20% C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
    11.21177426 46.00% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 54.00% C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
    11.22628064 45.60% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 54.40% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
    11.45629278 46.60% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.40% C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
    11.46357645 44.20% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 55.80% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ιωάννης Γαβριήλ View Post
    Code:
    Nganasan,0.13,90.28,0.06,0.40,0.02,1.09,0.15,0.08,0.02,7.63,0,0.13
    Still no changes, in my case.

    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 0.8879% / 0.88792178 | R6P
    42.6 Remedello
    17.1 Anatolian_BA
    15.6 Yamnaya
    12.8 Nordic_BA
    8.1 Iberomaurusian
    3.8 Bantu


    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 0.8670% / 0.86697992
    33.3 Remedello
    18.7 Anatolian_BA
    14.6 Sintashta
    12.5 Nordic_BA
    8.0 Iberomaurusian
    5.3 Yamnaya
    3.7 Bantu
    3.1 C_Italian_ChL
    0.8 Catacomb
    0.0 Bolshoy_Ostrov
    0.0 C_Italian_N
    0.0 Corded_Ware
    0.0 Hallstatt/Early_La_Tène
    0.0 Hungary_1180BC
    0.0 Minoan
    0.0 Nganasan



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