K12b Ancient Italy K8 Model (Dodecad K12b)

Salento · Mar 29, 2022

... thanks Jovialis

… I don't have the modern averages you posted, maybe they’re around somewhere, and I must have missed them.

Jovialis · Jun 27, 2022

Here is the model with the academic Italian samples Salento and Pax Augusta provided:

Jovialis · Jun 27, 2022

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]I noticed there is an Anatolia_BA-cline, when you organize the samples that have it from in percentage order. What else is striking is that it is throughout the entire south. I wonder if this has to due with ultra-regionalism and people not being able to leave their towns very much. Some towns perhaps had more Eastern Mediterranean influence, and/or Aegean Islander Greek colonists than others? I think it is hard to pin down southern Italy as a whole because of that dynamic if that is the case.[/FONT]

Ιωάννης Γαβριήλ · Jul 5, 2022

I'm not Italian, but what does this mean??

Target: Dodecad_K12b_ΙωάννηςΓαβριήλ Distance: 1.4609% / 1.46086266
45.3	Bantu

18.9	C_Italian_ChL

10.7	Yamnaya

10.2	Remedello

6.3	Minoan

5.2	Bolshoy_Ostrov

3.4	Iberomaurusian

Jovialis · Jul 5, 2022

Ιωάννης Γαβριήλ said:
I'm not Italian, but what does this mean??

Target: Dodecad_K12b_ΙωάννηςΓαβριήλ
Distance: 1.4609% / 1.46086266
45.3 Bantu
18.9 C_Italian_ChL
10.7 Yamnaya
10.2 Remedello
6.3 Minoan
5.2 Bolshoy_Ostrov
3.4 Iberomaurusian

C_Italian_ChL and Remodello are farmer populations that have a relatively higher amount of WHG, which is similar to the dynamic seen in Iberia.

This calculator is prioritized more for Italians, particularly South Italians. But I would recommend you try out my other model with the Bantu modification:

https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/42211-Modeling-with-aDNA

Duarte · Jul 5, 2022

@Ιωάννης Γαβριήλ

This is the calculator of this thread with Bantu modification:

Code:

Bolshoy_Ostrov:3473±87:BOO006:Lamnidis_2018,4.07,44.75,0,0,0,36.53,2.94,0,0,11.3,0,0.41
Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015,26.6,1.31,0,0,7.93,64.16,0,0,0,0,0,0
Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015,22.07,0,0,0,0,70.45,0,0,0,0,7.49,0
Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015,26.54,0,0,0,10.09,63.38,0,0,0,0,0,0
Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015,27.76,0,0.93,0,3.91,65.86,0,0,0,0,1.35,0.19
Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015,23.64,0.86,0,0,9.61,64.98,0.74,0,0,0,0,0.17
Yamnaya:RISE552:Allentoft_2015,30.94,1.6,0,0.01,2.06,61.11,0.39,0,0,0,3.1,0.78
Yamnaya:I0231_SVP3:Haak_2015,28.48,2.19,0,0,1.43,59.76,2.73,0,0,0,4.53,0.89
Yamnaya:I0357_SVP5:Haak_2015,31.45,0.86,0,0.77,4.05,54.56,2.22,0,0,0,6.09,0
Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015,24.66,6.11,0,0,0,59.29,0,0,0,0,9.32,0.62
Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015,26.2,3.3,0,0,2.84,64.62,2.03,0,0,0,0,1
Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015,23.9,4.62,0,0,0,60.95,1.32,0.31,0,0,8.64,0.26
Yamnaya:I0441_SVP54:Haak_2015,33.48,1.54,0,0,0,56.53,8.46,0,0,0,0,0
Yamnaya:I0443_SVP57:Haak_2015,28.03,2.76,0,0,5.5,59.49,0,0,0,0,3.22,1
Yamnaya:I0444_SVP58:Haak_2015,30.94,0.57,0,0,3.61,59.43,0,0.11,0,0,2.51,2.83
Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018,25.39,2.85,0,0,1.94,58.76,1.17,0,0,0,8.18,1.72
Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018,24.66,4.21,0,0,2.47,64.51,1.21,0,0,0,2.93,0
Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015,0,0,1.36,0,75.55,12.12,0,0,0.84,0,9.88,0.24
Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015,0,0,0,0,72.08,12.24,0,0,5.69,0,9.99,0
C_Italian_ChL:R4:Antonio_2019,0,0,2.77,0.12,60.45,3.99,0,0,10.54,0.02,21.81,0.32
C_Italian_ChL:R5:Antonio_2019,0,0,2.76,0,63.45,3.27,0,0,10.15,0,20.2,0.17
C_Italian_ChL:R1014:Antonio_2019,0,0,2.67,0,64.87,0.54,0,0,0,0,31.92,0
C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019,0,0,3.61,0,54.5,0,0,0.17,12.44,0,29.12,0.16
C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019,0,0,4.22,0,52.75,0,0,0,11.28,0.2,31.18,0.38
C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019,0,0,2.42,0,53.24,0,0,0,14.2,0.44,29.46,0.24
C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019,0,0,2.58,0,50.8,0,0,0,13.79,0,32.49,0.34
C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019,0,0,3.35,0,53.37,0,0,0,13.76,0,29.52,0
C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019,0,0,3.41,0,57.73,1.14,0,0,9.12,0.21,28.3,0.09
C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019,0,0,3.72,0,51.41,0,0,0.09,10.24,0,34.54,0
C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019,0,0,4.33,0,55.74,0.85,0,0,9.83,0,29.26,0
Minoan:Lasithi:I0070:Lazaridis_2017,0,0,0.62,0.55,37.53,0,0,0,15.52,0,45.7,0.09
Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017,1.16,0,2.96,0,37.9,0.23,0,0,13.01,0,44.59,0.15
Minoan:Lasithi:I0073:Lazaridis_2017,0,0.05,2.92,0.4,36.38,0,0,0,13.48,0,46.7,0.07
Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017,0.58,0,4.33,0,39.44,0,0,0,12.45,0,43.19,0
Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017,1.52,0,5.68,0,37.33,0,0,0,16.14,0,39.25,0.08
Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017,1.38,0,0.19,0,41.77,0,0,0.28,17.61,0,38.77,0
Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017,5.16,0,0,0,36.32,0,0,0,19.19,0,39.01,0.33
Minoan:Petras_EBA:Pta08:Clemente_2021,0,0,3.85,0.33,34.73,0.38,0.14,0.05,14.68,0.48,43.65,1.72
Anatolian_BA:I2495:Lazaridis_2017,6.07,0,1.17,1.3,27.23,3.79,0,0,14.72,0,43.22,2.51
Anatolian_BA:I2499:Lazaridis_2017,7.88,0.24,1.61,0,26.13,4.81,0,1.72,13.22,0.03,44.36,0
Anatolian_BA:I2683:Lazaridis_2017,8.73,0.62,2.12,0.42,25.19,0.9,0,0,14.26,0,45.14,2.61
Iberomaurusian:TAF009:Loosdrecht_2018,0,3.54,60.38,2.05,0,0,2.48,18.95,8.83,0,0,3.78
Iberomaurusian:TAF010:Loosdrecht_2018,0,0.55,63.9,3.27,0,0.17,1.39,18.7,5.98,0,0,6.05
Iberomaurusian:TAF011:Loosdrecht_2018,0,1.28,64.11,2.45,0,0.07,0.7,18.22,5.74,0.18,0,7.24
Iberomaurusian:TAF012:Loosdrecht_2018,0,1.79,63.81,0.8,0.44,0,3.27,16.18,5.76,0.59,0,7.35
Iberomaurusian:TAF013:Loosdrecht_2018,0,1.07,61.84,2.72,0,0.02,1.89,18.58,6.99,0,0,6.89
Iberomaurusian:TAF014:Loosdrecht_2018,0,0.74,62.76,2.95,0,0,2.12,18.14,5.34,0,0,7.95
Iberomaurusian:TAF015:Loosdrecht_2018,0,0,62.82,1.87,0,0.9,0,15.76,6.67,3.45,0,8.52
Bantu:N.E.,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,22.60,0.00,0.00,0.00,77.40
Bantu:S.E._Pedi,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,12.30,0.00,0.00,0.00,87.70
Bantu:S.E._S.Sotho,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,10.20,0.00,0.00,0.00,89.80
Bantu:S.E._Tswana,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,12.50,0.00,0.00,0.00,87.50
Bantu:S.E._Zulu,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,10.60,0.00,0.00,0.00,89.40
Bantu:S.W._Herero,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,8.80,0.00,0.00,0.00,91.20
Bantu:S.W._Ovambo,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,6.40,0.00,0.00,0.00,93.60

My results

Target: Duarte Distance: 1.0780% / 1.07798042
46.0	Remedello

24.9	Yamnaya

11.4	Minoan

8.3	Iberomaurusian

5.1	C_Italian_ChL

4.3	Bantu

0.0	Anatolian_BA

0.0	Bolshoy_Ostrov

0.0	C_Italian_N

This is the calculator of https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/42211-Modeling-with-aDNA (post #37) with Bantu modification

Code:

Bantu:N.E.,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,22.60,0.00,0.00,0.00,77.40
Bantu:S.E._Pedi,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,12.30,0.00,0.00,0.00,87.70
Bantu:S.E._S.Sotho,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,10.20,0.00,0.00,0.00,89.80
Bantu:S.E._Tswana,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,12.50,0.00,0.00,0.00,87.50
Bantu:S.E._Zulu,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,10.60,0.00,0.00,0.00,89.40
Bantu:S.W._Herero,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,8.80,0.00,0.00,0.00,91.20
Bantu:S.W._Ovambo,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,6.40,0.00,0.00,0.00,93.60
Bolshoy_Ostrov:3473±87:BOO006:Lamnidis_2018,4.07,44.75,0,0,0,36.53,2.94,0,0,11.3,0,0.41
Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015,26.6,1.31,0,0,7.93,64.16,0,0,0,0,0,0
Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015,22.07,0,0,0,0,70.45,0,0,0,0,7.49,0
Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015,26.54,0,0,0,10.09,63.38,0,0,0,0,0,0
Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015,27.76,0,0.93,0,3.91,65.86,0,0,0,0,1.35,0.19
Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015,23.64,0.86,0,0,9.61,64.98,0.74,0,0,0,0,0.17
Yamnaya:RISE552:Allentoft_2015,30.94,1.6,0,0.01,2.06,61.11,0.39,0,0,0,3.1,0.78
Yamnaya:I0231_SVP3:Haak_2015,28.48,2.19,0,0,1.43,59.76,2.73,0,0,0,4.53,0.89
Yamnaya:I0357_SVP5:Haak_2015,31.45,0.86,0,0.77,4.05,54.56,2.22,0,0,0,6.09,0
Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015,24.66,6.11,0,0,0,59.29,0,0,0,0,9.32,0.62
Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015,26.2,3.3,0,0,2.84,64.62,2.03,0,0,0,0,1
Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015,23.9,4.62,0,0,0,60.95,1.32,0.31,0,0,8.64,0.26
Yamnaya:I0441_SVP54:Haak_2015,33.48,1.54,0,0,0,56.53,8.46,0,0,0,0,0
Yamnaya:I0443_SVP57:Haak_2015,28.03,2.76,0,0,5.5,59.49,0,0,0,0,3.22,1
Yamnaya:I0444_SVP58:Haak_2015,30.94,0.57,0,0,3.61,59.43,0,0.11,0,0,2.51,2.83
Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018,25.39,2.85,0,0,1.94,58.76,1.17,0,0,0,8.18,1.72
Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018,24.66,4.21,0,0,2.47,64.51,1.21,0,0,0,2.93,0
Catacomb:MJ-09:Jarve_2019,25.71,4.68,0,0.61,7.93,55.69,0,0,0,0,2.4,2.97
Catacomb:MK3003:Wang_2019,29.97,2.83,0,0.37,3.73,54.49,1.01,0,0,0,5.99,1.62
Catacomb:RK4001:Wang_2019,26.39,2.57,0,0,2.96,54.74,2.09,0,0,0,10.33,0.92
Sintashta:RISE386:Allentoft_2015,15.34,0.38,0,0,24.56,55.73,0,0,0,0,3.31,0.68
Sintashta:RISE392:Allentoft_2015,12.29,0,0.39,0,30.03,57.18,0,0,0,0,0,0.11
Sintashta:RISE394:Allentoft_2015,16.36,0,0,0,26.29,56.64,0,0,0,0,0.71,0
Sintashta:RISE395:Allentoft_2015,14.51,0,0,0,30.54,54.26,0,0,0,0,0.16,0.52
Corded_Ware:RISE1:Allentoft_2015,9.53,2.23,0,0,20.52,67.27,0,0,0,0,0.46,0
Corded_Ware:RISE434:Allentoft_2015,15.93,0,0,0,23.21,60.04,0,0,0,0,0,0.82
Corded_Ware:RISE435:Allentoft_2015,1.49,0,0,0,21.13,68.03,0,0,0,0,9.36,0
Corded_Ware:RISE446:Allentoft_2015,10.44,0,0,0,25.54,64.02,0,0,0,0,0,0
Nordic_BA:RISE47:Allentoft_2015,4.99,0,0,0,37.63,55.78,0,0,0,0,1.6,0
Nordic_BA:RISE175:Allentoft_2015,0,0,0,0,44.56,55.44,0,0,0,0,0,0
Hallstatt/Early_La_Tène:Hallstatt_C-Early_La_Tène_IA:NOR2B6:Brunel_2020,4.07,0.89,3,0,37.2,33.97,0,0.5,5.51,0,14.86,0
Hallstatt/Early_La_Tène:Hallstatt_C-Early_La_Tène_IA:NOR3-15:Brunel_2020,4.06,0.92,3.41,0.28,36.67,31.17,0,0,7.03,0,16.45,0
Hungary_1180BC:BR2:Gamba_2014,1.09,0,0.38,0,36.78,41.52,0,0,3.74,0,16.14,0.36
Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015,0,0,1.36,0,75.55,12.12,0,0,0.84,0,9.88,0.24
Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015,0,0,0,0,72.08,12.24,0,0,5.69,0,9.99,0
C_Italian_ChL:R4:Antonio_2019,0,0,2.77,0.12,60.45,3.99,0,0,10.54,0.02,21.81,0.32
C_Italian_ChL:R5:Antonio_2019,0,0,2.76,0,63.45,3.27,0,0,10.15,0,20.2,0.17
C_Italian_ChL:R1014:Antonio_2019,0,0,2.67,0,64.87,0.54,0,0,0,0,31.92,0
C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019,0,0,3.61,0,54.5,0,0,0.17,12.44,0,29.12,0.16
C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019,0,0,4.22,0,52.75,0,0,0,11.28,0.2,31.18,0.38
C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019,0,0,2.42,0,53.24,0,0,0,14.2,0.44,29.46,0.24
C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019,0,0,2.58,0,50.8,0,0,0,13.79,0,32.49,0.34
C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019,0,0,3.35,0,53.37,0,0,0,13.76,0,29.52,0
C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019,0,0,3.41,0,57.73,1.14,0,0,9.12,0.21,28.3,0.09
C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019,0,0,3.72,0,51.41,0,0,0.09,10.24,0,34.54,0
C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019,0,0,4.33,0,55.74,0.85,0,0,9.83,0,29.26,0
Minoan:Lasithi:I0070:Lazaridis_2017,0,0,0.62,0.55,37.53,0,0,0,15.52,0,45.7,0.09
Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017,1.16,0,2.96,0,37.9,0.23,0,0,13.01,0,44.59,0.15
Minoan:Lasithi:I0073:Lazaridis_2017,0,0.05,2.92,0.4,36.38,0,0,0,13.48,0,46.7,0.07
Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017,0.58,0,4.33,0,39.44,0,0,0,12.45,0,43.19,0
Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017,1.52,0,5.68,0,37.33,0,0,0,16.14,0,39.25,0.08
Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017,1.38,0,0.19,0,41.77,0,0,0.28,17.61,0,38.77,0
Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017,5.16,0,0,0,36.32,0,0,0,19.19,0,39.01,0.33
Minoan:Petras_EBA:Pta08:Clemente_2021,0,0,3.85,0.33,34.73,0.38,0.14,0.05,14.68,0.48,43.65,1.72
Anatolian_BA:I2495:Lazaridis_2017,6.07,0,1.17,1.3,27.23,3.79,0,0,14.72,0,43.22,2.51
Anatolian_BA:I2499:Lazaridis_2017,7.88,0.24,1.61,0,26.13,4.81,0,1.72,13.22,0.03,44.36,0
Anatolian_BA:I2683:Lazaridis_2017,8.73,0.62,2.12,0.42,25.19,0.9,0,0,14.26,0,45.14,2.61
Iberomaurusian:TAF009:Loosdrecht_2018,0,3.54,60.38,2.05,0,0,2.48,18.95,8.83,0,0,3.78
Iberomaurusian:TAF010:Loosdrecht_2018,0,0.55,63.9,3.27,0,0.17,1.39,18.7,5.98,0,0,6.05
Iberomaurusian:TAF011:Loosdrecht_2018,0,1.28,64.11,2.45,0,0.07,0.7,18.22,5.74,0.18,0,7.24
Iberomaurusian:TAF012:Loosdrecht_2018,0,1.79,63.81,0.8,0.44,0,3.27,16.18,5.76,0.59,0,7.35
Iberomaurusian:TAF013:Loosdrecht_2018,0,1.07,61.84,2.72,0,0.02,1.89,18.58,6.99,0,0,6.89
Iberomaurusian:TAF014:Loosdrecht_2018,0,0.74,62.76,2.95,0,0,2.12,18.14,5.34,0,0,7.95
Iberomaurusian:TAF015:Loosdrecht_2018,0,0,62.82,1.87,0,0.9,0,15.76,6.67,3.45,0,8.52

My results

Target: Duarte Distance: 0.8875% / 0.88750628
30.0	Remedello

16.8	Anatolian_BA

14.5	Sintashta

11.7	Nordic_BA

7.9	Iberomaurusian

7.6	C_Italian_ChL

7.2	Yamnaya

3.8	Bantu

0.5	Catacomb

0.0	Bolshoy_Ostrov

0.0	C_Italian_N

0.0	Corded_Ware

0.0	Hallstatt/Early_La_Tène

0.0	Hungary_1180BC

0.0	Minoan

torzio · Jul 5, 2022

weird numbers for myself .............all nearly equal

Target: Torziok12b
Distance: 0.6390% / 0.63902693
33.9 Yamnaya
33.7 Remedello
32.4 Minoan

Ιωάννης Γαβριήλ · Jul 5, 2022

Thanks

First one:

Target: Dodecad_K12b_ΙωάννηςΓαβριήλ Distance: 1.1265% / 1.12651268
45.8	Bantu

17.0	C_Italian_ChL

12.4	Remedello

9.9	Yamnaya

5.7	Bolshoy_Ostrov

5.6	Minoan

3.6	Iberomaurusian

Second one:

Target: Dodecad_K12b_ΙωάννηςΓαβριήλ Distance: 0.7490% / 0.74897540
45.8	Bantu

22.2	C_Italian_ChL

5.7	Yamnaya

5.2	Bolshoy_Ostrov

4.6	Remedello

3.9	Corded_Ware

3.7	Iberomaurusian

3.1	Nordic_BA

3.0	Minoan

1.6	C_Italian_N

1.2	Hungary_1180BC

Second one with nganasan:

Target: Dodecad_K12b_ΙωάννηςΓαβριήλ Distance: 0.5473% / 0.54733436
45.9	Bantu

21.0	C_Italian_ChL

6.4	Yamnaya

4.4	Corded_Ware

4.4	Nordic_BA

3.8	Remedello

3.6	Minoan

3.6	Iberomaurusian

2.8	Nganasan

2.5	Hungary_1180BC

1.6	C_Italian_N

Duarte · Jul 5, 2022

Ιωάννης Γαβριήλ said:
Thanks

First one:

Target: Dodecad_K12b_ΙωάννηςΓαβριήλ
Distance: 1.1265% / 1.12651268
45.8 Bantu
17.0 C_Italian_ChL
12.4 Remedello
9.9 Yamnaya
5.7 Bolshoy_Ostrov
5.6 Minoan
3.6 Iberomaurusian

Second one:

Target: Dodecad_K12b_ΙωάννηςΓαβριήλ
Distance: 0.7490% / 0.74897540
45.8 Bantu
22.2 C_Italian_ChL
5.7 Yamnaya
5.2 Bolshoy_Ostrov
4.6 Remedello
3.9 Corded_Ware
3.7 Iberomaurusian
3.1 Nordic_BA
3.0 Minoan
1.6 C_Italian_N
1.2 Hungary_1180BC

Second one with nganasan:

Target: Dodecad_K12b_ΙωάννηςΓαβριήλ
Distance: 0.5473% / 0.54733436
45.9 Bantu
21.0 C_Italian_ChL
6.4 Yamnaya
4.4 Corded_Ware
4.4 Nordic_BA
3.8 Remedello
3.6 Minoan
3.6 Iberomaurusian
2.8 Nganasan
2.5 Hungary_1180BC
1.6 C_Italian_N

Nice, Ιωάννης Γαβριήλ

Code:

Nganassan,0.00,100.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00[COLOR=#000000]
[/COLOR]

My second results don’t change with the addition of Nganasan

Target: Duarte Distance: 0.8850% / 0.88501655
30.9	Remedello

17.3	Anatolian_BA

15.1	Sintashta

12.3	Nordic_BA

7.9	Iberomaurusian

6.4	C_Italian_ChL

5.7	Yamnaya

3.8	Bantu

0.6	Catacomb

0.0	Bolshoy_Ostrov

0.0	C_Italian_N

0.0	Corded_Ware

0.0	Hallstatt/Early_La_Tène

0.0	Hungary_1180BC

0.0	Minoan

0.0	Nganassan

Ιωάννης Γαβριήλ · Jul 6, 2022

Duarte said:
Nice, Ιωάννης Γαβριήλ

Code:

Nganassan,0.00,100.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00[COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR]

My second results don’t change with the addition of Nganasan

Target: Duarte
Distance: 0.8850% / 0.88501655
30.9 Remedello
17.3 Anatolian_BA
15.1 Sintashta
12.3 Nordic_BA
7.9 Iberomaurusian
6.4 C_Italian_ChL
5.7 Yamnaya
3.8 Bantu
0.6 Catacomb
0.0 Bolshoy_Ostrov
0.0 C_Italian_N
0.0 Corded_Ware
0.0 Hallstatt/Early_La_Tène
0.0 Hungary_1180BC
0.0 Minoan
0.0 Nganassan

That's probably because you don't have Indigenous American DNA, I use it as a proxy, because if I don't I end up with a lot of Bolshoy_Ostrov and that wouldn't make any sense, also because the percentage of Nganassan in there is basically the same percentage of indigenous DNA from my company test.

Duarte · Jul 6, 2022

Ιωάννης Γαβριήλ said:
That's probably because you don't have Indigenous American DNA, I use it as a proxy, because if I don't I end up with a lot of Bolshoy_Ostrov and that wouldn't make any sense, also because the percentage of Nganassan in there is basically the same percentage of indigenous DNA from my company test.

My aDNA tests show no Native American ancestry, and when it does, it's always background noise (< 1%). But it’s a fact that I have an indigenous ancestor in my matrilineal lineage. The result of my test FTDNA mtDNA Full Sequence shows that my mtDNA is B2. YFull's mitochondrial tree, still under construction, points out that I belong to very new subclade of B2. Most likely, my indigenous ancestry was being diluted until it approached zero due to successive marriages with individuals who did not have Native American ancestry.

italouruguayan · Jul 6, 2022

My new results with various additions:

Distance to: italouruguayan

21.87160488 Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
23.91085557 C6-Imperial_Rome_(n=12)
36.77070029 Anatolian_BA:I2495:Lazaridis_2017
36.82224192 Anatolian_BA:I2499:Lazaridis_2017
38.92345951 Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
39.24189598 Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017
39.76766526 Anatolian_BA:I2683:Lazaridis_2017
40.46768835 Minoan

etras_EBA

ta08:Clemente_2021
40.67994223 Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
41.37306491 C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
41.37859350 Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
41.68839647 C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
41.70165105 Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
41.86577958 C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019

Target: italouruguayan

Distance: 3.9881% / 3.98809359
25.8 Minoan
24.1 Yamnaya
18.8 Remedello
17.9 Bolshoy_Ostrov
6.6 C_Italian_N
4.6 Iberomaurusian
2.2 Bantu

Distance to: italouruguayan

11.04475463 46.20% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.80% C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
11.09188334 46.40% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.60% C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
11.09496285 46.60% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.40% C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
11.14321878 45.80% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 54.20% C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
11.16010412 46.20% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.80% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
11.19277049 45.80% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 54.20% C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019

My main matches changed. What surprises me is that the addition of Nganassan has not caused significant changes.

Ιωάννης Γαβριήλ · Jul 6, 2022

italouruguayan said:
My new results with various additions:

Distance to: italouruguayan

21.87160488 Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
23.91085557 C6-Imperial_Rome_(n=12)
36.77070029 Anatolian_BA:I2495:Lazaridis_2017
36.82224192 Anatolian_BA:I2499:Lazaridis_2017
38.92345951 Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
39.24189598 Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017
39.76766526 Anatolian_BA:I2683:Lazaridis_2017
40.46768835 Minoanetras_EBAta08:Clemente_2021
40.67994223 Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
41.37306491 C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
41.37859350 Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
41.68839647 C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
41.70165105 Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
41.86577958 C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019

Target: italouruguayan

Distance: 3.9881% / 3.98809359
25.8 Minoan
24.1 Yamnaya
18.8 Remedello
17.9 Bolshoy_Ostrov
6.6 C_Italian_N
4.6 Iberomaurusian
2.2 Bantu

Distance to: italouruguayan

11.04475463 46.20% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.80% C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
11.09188334 46.40% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.60% C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
11.09496285 46.60% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.40% C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
11.14321878 45.80% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 54.20% C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
11.16010412 46.20% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.80% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
11.19277049 45.80% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 54.20% C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019

My main matches changed. What surprises me is that the addition of Nganassan has not caused significant changes.

You can try with this version of Nganasan, it worked better for me

Code:

Nganasan,0.13,90.28,0.06,0.40,0.02,1.09,0.15,0.08,0.02,7.63,0,0.13

bigsnake49 · Jul 6, 2022

italouruguayan said:
My new results with various additions:
Distance to: italouruguayan
21.87160488 Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
23.91085557 C6-Imperial_Rome_(n=12)
36.77070029 Anatolian_BA:I2495:Lazaridis_2017
36.82224192 Anatolian_BA:I2499:Lazaridis_2017
38.92345951 Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
39.24189598 Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017
39.76766526 Anatolian_BA:I2683:Lazaridis_2017
40.46768835 Minoanetras_EBAta08:Clemente_2021
40.67994223 Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
41.37306491 C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
41.37859350 Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
41.68839647 C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
41.70165105 Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
41.86577958 C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
Target: italouruguayan
Distance: 3.9881% / 3.98809359
25.8 Minoan
24.1 Yamnaya
18.8 Remedello
17.9 Bolshoy_Ostrov
6.6 C_Italian_N
4.6 Iberomaurusian
2.2 Bantu
Distance to: italouruguayan
11.04475463 46.20% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.80% C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
11.09188334 46.40% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.60% C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
11.09496285 46.60% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.40% C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
11.14321878 45.80% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 54.20% C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
11.16010412 46.20% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.80% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
11.19277049 45.80% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 54.20% C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
My main matches changed. What surprises me is that the addition of Nganassan has not caused significant changes.

Wow, you are just not close to anybody are you? You must have a lot of admixture.

italouruguayan · Jul 6, 2022

bigsnake49 said:
Wow, you are just not close to anybody are you? You must have a lot of admixture.

Yes, as it appears in my personal data. My mother had the typical "Latin American Mix", European, Native American and African, and my father is ethnically 100% Italian.

italouruguayan · Jul 6, 2022

Ιωάννης Γαβριήλ said:
You can try with this version of Nganasan, it worked better for me

Code:

Nganasan,0.13,90.28,0.06,0.40,0.02,1.09,0.15,0.08,0.02,7.63,0,0.13

Now, with Nganassan... not much has changed. Thank you Ιωάννης Γαβριήλ!

Distance to: italouruguayan

10.16718631 18.80% Bolshoy_Ostrov:3473±87:BOO006:Lamnidis_2018 + 81.20% Hallstatt/Early_La_Tène:Hallstatt_C-Early_La_Tène_IA:NOR3-15:Brunel_2020
10.48876310 89.20% Hallstatt/Early_La_Tène:Hallstatt_C-Early_La_Tène_IA:NOR3-15:Brunel_2020 + 10.80% Nganasan
11.04475463 46.20% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.80% C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
11.09188334 46.40% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.60% C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
11.09496285 46.60% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.40% C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
11.14321878 45.80% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 54.20% C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
11.16010412 46.20% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.80% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
11.19277049 45.80% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 54.20% C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
11.21177426 46.00% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 54.00% C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
11.22628064 45.60% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 54.40% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
11.45629278 46.60% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 53.40% C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
11.46357645 44.20% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 55.80% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019

Duarte · Jul 6, 2022

Ιωάννης Γαβριήλ said:
Code:

Nganasan,0.13,90.28,0.06,0.40,0.02,1.09,0.15,0.08,0.02,7.63,0,0.13

Still no changes, in my case.

Target: Duarte Distance: 0.8879% / 0.88792178 \| R6P
42.6	Remedello

17.1	Anatolian_BA

15.6	Yamnaya

12.8	Nordic_BA

8.1	Iberomaurusian

3.8	Bantu

Target: Duarte Distance: 0.8670% / 0.86697992
33.3	Remedello

18.7	Anatolian_BA

14.6	Sintashta

12.5	Nordic_BA

8.0	Iberomaurusian

5.3	Yamnaya

3.7	Bantu

3.1	C_Italian_ChL

0.8	Catacomb

0.0	Bolshoy_Ostrov

0.0	C_Italian_N

0.0	Corded_Ware

0.0	Hallstatt/Early_La_Tène

0.0	Hungary_1180BC

0.0	Minoan

0.0	Nganasan

qh777 · Jun 12, 2023

Results as a Northwest European:

Distance to:	qh777Ancestrysample
42.88318202	Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015
43.02443259	Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015
43.25438706	Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015
44.64134407	Yamnaya:I0443_SVP57:Haak_2015
44.86775234	Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015
45.22672219	C_Italian_ChL:R4:Antonio_2019
45.33522692	Yamnaya:I0357_SVP5:Haak_2015
45.93883433	Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015
46.02568305	Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018
46.66927040	C_Italian_ChL:R5:Antonio_2019
47.47839509	Yamnaya:I0444_SVP58:Haak_2015
47.87673548	Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015
48.12549740	Yamnaya:I0231_SVP3:Haak_2015
48.17160990	Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015
48.23785547	Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018
48.70209030	C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
48.83338305	C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
48.85662186	Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015
48.97895466	Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015
49.26910695	Yamnaya:RISE552:Allentoft_2015
49.44511705	C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
49.55233395	C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
49.55823847	C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
49.76569200	C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
50.33624936	C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019

2way:

Distance to:	qh777Ancestrysample
2.74496386	45.20% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 54.80% Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015
3.69913477	46.80% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 53.20% Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015
4.11389414	50.20% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 49.80% Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015
4.56506830	47.20% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 52.80% Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015
5.13741088	48.80% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 51.20% Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015
5.14267875	46.80% Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015 + 53.20% Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015
5.28137029	47.00% Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015 + 53.00% Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015
5.28626417	51.60% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 48.40% Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015
5.31806394	49.00% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 51.00% Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015
5.59178004	50.20% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 49.80% Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015
5.93412430	48.40% Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015 + 51.60% Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015
6.01435079	48.40% Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015 + 51.60% Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015
6.23868591	50.60% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 49.40% Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015
6.35210155	47.20% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 52.80% Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015
6.44249949	48.80% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 51.20% Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015
6.55647821	51.80% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 48.20% Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015
6.84918747	49.20% Yamnaya:I0443_SVP57:Haak_2015 + 50.80% Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015
6.96877040	48.40% Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018 + 51.60% Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015
7.10596932	50.00% Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018 + 50.00% Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015
7.29778932	50.80% Yamnaya:I0443_SVP57:Haak_2015 + 49.20% Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015
7.31025841	47.20% Yamnaya:I0231_SVP3:Haak_2015 + 52.80% Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015
7.35564927	47.40% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 52.60% Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015
7.41627597	49.00% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 51.00% Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015
7.55123664	46.60% Yamnaya:RISE552:Allentoft_2015 + 53.40% Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015
7.57739346	48.80% Yamnaya:I0231_SVP3:Haak_2015 + 51.20% Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015

Target: qh777Ancestrysample Distance: 2.4025% / 2.40251525
47.3	Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015

33.0	Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015

13.2	Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015

5.7	Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015

0.8	Bolshoy_Ostrov:3473±87:BOO006:Lamnidis_2018

AIexSuvorov · Jul 22, 2023

Target: Russki Distance: 1528.8686% / 15.28868636
69.6	Yamnaya

26.6	Remedello

3.8	Bolshoy_Ostrov

0.0	Anatolian_BA

0.0	C_Italian_ChL

0.0	C_Italian_N

0.0	Iberomaurusian

0.0	Minoan

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