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Thread: Ancient Italy K8 Model (Dodecad K12b)

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    Ancient Italy K8 Model (Dodecad K12b)



    The chart reflects samples with a fit less than 5.

    Source

    Code:
    Bolshoy_Ostrov:3473±87:BOO006:Lamnidis_2018,4.07,44.75,0,0,0,36.53,2.94,0,0,11.3,0,0.41
    Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015,26.6,1.31,0,0,7.93,64.16,0,0,0,0,0,0
    Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015,22.07,0,0,0,0,70.45,0,0,0,0,7.49,0
    Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015,26.54,0,0,0,10.09,63.38,0,0,0,0,0,0
    Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015,27.76,0,0.93,0,3.91,65.86,0,0,0,0,1.35,0.19
    Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015,23.64,0.86,0,0,9.61,64.98,0.74,0,0,0,0,0.17
    Yamnaya:RISE552:Allentoft_2015,30.94,1.6,0,0.01,2.06,61.11,0.39,0,0,0,3.1,0.78
    Yamnaya:I0231_SVP3:Haak_2015,28.48,2.19,0,0,1.43,59.76,2.73,0,0,0,4.53,0.89
    Yamnaya:I0357_SVP5:Haak_2015,31.45,0.86,0,0.77,4.05,54.56,2.22,0,0,0,6.09,0
    Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015,24.66,6.11,0,0,0,59.29,0,0,0,0,9.32,0.62
    Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015,26.2,3.3,0,0,2.84,64.62,2.03,0,0,0,0,1
    Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015,23.9,4.62,0,0,0,60.95,1.32,0.31,0,0,8.64,0.26
    Yamnaya:I0441_SVP54:Haak_2015,33.48,1.54,0,0,0,56.53,8.46,0,0,0,0,0
    Yamnaya:I0443_SVP57:Haak_2015,28.03,2.76,0,0,5.5,59.49,0,0,0,0,3.22,1
    Yamnaya:I0444_SVP58:Haak_2015,30.94,0.57,0,0,3.61,59.43,0,0.11,0,0,2.51,2.83
    Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018,25.39,2.85,0,0,1.94,58.76,1.17,0,0,0,8.18,1.72
    Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018,24.66,4.21,0,0,2.47,64.51,1.21,0,0,0,2.93,0
    Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015,0,0,1.36,0,75.55,12.12,0,0,0.84,0,9.88,0.24
    Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015,0,0,0,0,72.08,12.24,0,0,5.69,0,9.99,0
    C_Italian_ChL:R4:Antonio_2019,0,0,2.77,0.12,60.45,3.99,0,0,10.54,0.02,21.81,0.32
    C_Italian_ChL:R5:Antonio_2019,0,0,2.76,0,63.45,3.27,0,0,10.15,0,20.2,0.17
    C_Italian_ChL:R1014:Antonio_2019,0,0,2.67,0,64.87,0.54,0,0,0,0,31.92,0
    C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019,0,0,3.61,0,54.5,0,0,0.17,12.44,0,29.12,0.16
    C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019,0,0,4.22,0,52.75,0,0,0,11.28,0.2,31.18,0.38
    C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019,0,0,2.42,0,53.24,0,0,0,14.2,0.44,29.46,0.24
    C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019,0,0,2.58,0,50.8,0,0,0,13.79,0,32.49,0.34
    C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019,0,0,3.35,0,53.37,0,0,0,13.76,0,29.52,0
    C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019,0,0,3.41,0,57.73,1.14,0,0,9.12,0.21,28.3,0.09
    C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019,0,0,3.72,0,51.41,0,0,0.09,10.24,0,34.54,0
    C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019,0,0,4.33,0,55.74,0.85,0,0,9.83,0,29.26,0
    Minoan:Lasithi:I0070:Lazaridis_2017,0,0,0.62,0.55,37.53,0,0,0,15.52,0,45.7,0.09
    Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017,1.16,0,2.96,0,37.9,0.23,0,0,13.01,0,44.59,0.15
    Minoan:Lasithi:I0073:Lazaridis_2017,0,0.05,2.92,0.4,36.38,0,0,0,13.48,0,46.7,0.07
    Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017,0.58,0,4.33,0,39.44,0,0,0,12.45,0,43.19,0
    Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017,1.52,0,5.68,0,37.33,0,0,0,16.14,0,39.25,0.08
    Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017,1.38,0,0.19,0,41.77,0,0,0.28,17.61,0,38.77,0
    Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017,5.16,0,0,0,36.32,0,0,0,19.19,0,39.01,0.33
    Minoan:Petras_EBA:Pta08:Clemente_2021,0,0,3.85,0.33,34.73,0.38,0.14,0.05,14.68,0.48,43.65,1.72
    Anatolian_BA:I2495:Lazaridis_2017,6.07,0,1.17,1.3,27.23,3.79,0,0,14.72,0,43.22,2.51
    Anatolian_BA:I2499:Lazaridis_2017,7.88,0.24,1.61,0,26.13,4.81,0,1.72,13.22,0.03,44.36,0
    Anatolian_BA:I2683:Lazaridis_2017,8.73,0.62,2.12,0.42,25.19,0.9,0,0,14.26,0,45.14,2.61
    Iberomaurusian:TAF009:Loosdrecht_2018,0,3.54,60.38,2.05,0,0,2.48,18.95,8.83,0,0,3.78
    Iberomaurusian:TAF010:Loosdrecht_2018,0,0.55,63.9,3.27,0,0.17,1.39,18.7,5.98,0,0,6.05
    Iberomaurusian:TAF011:Loosdrecht_2018,0,1.28,64.11,2.45,0,0.07,0.7,18.22,5.74,0.18,0,7.24
    Iberomaurusian:TAF012:Loosdrecht_2018,0,1.79,63.81,0.8,0.44,0,3.27,16.18,5.76,0.59,0,7.35
    Iberomaurusian:TAF013:Loosdrecht_2018,0,1.07,61.84,2.72,0,0.02,1.89,18.58,6.99,0,0,6.89
    Iberomaurusian:TAF014:Loosdrecht_2018,0,0.74,62.76,2.95,0,0,2.12,18.14,5.34,0,0,7.95
    Iberomaurusian:TAF015:Loosdrecht_2018,0,0,62.82,1.87,0,0.9,0,15.76,6.67,3.45,0,8.52
    Target

    Code:
    Daunian_Apulia_IA:ORD001:Aneli_2022,2.13,0,3.17,1.09,29.5,31.57,0,0.75,9.39,1.76,20.64,0
    Daunian_Apulia_IA:ORD004:Aneli_2022,0,0,0,0,44.67,29.85,0,0,0.14,0,22.4,2.95
    Daunian_Apulia_IA:ORD006:Aneli_2022,0,0,0,2.54,41.99,25.03,0,0,8.55,0,21.11,0.78
    Daunian_Apulia_IA:ORD009:Aneli_2022,4.03,0.65,1.42,0.98,38.29,23.77,0,0,7.95,0,22.52,0.39
    Daunian_Apulia_IA:ORD011:Aneli_2022,0,0,0,0,41.49,23.76,0,0,8.92,0.98,24.85,0
    Daunian_Apulia_IA:ORD014:Aneli_2022,0,2.06,4.08,0,43.2,28.47,0.29,0,2.97,0,18.93,0
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    Daunian_Apulia_IA:SAL001:Aneli_2022,0,0,3.78,3.04,43.72,32.79,0,3.1,2.05,0,11.51,0
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    Apulia_MA:SGR001:Aneli_2022,9.06,4.24,0,2.32,23.85,12.46,0.86,3.12,3.86,0,40.22,0
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    Foggia_Apulia_MA:VK534,4.06,0.00,3.55,0.35,22.53,17.31,0.00,0.85,12.20,1.21,36.33,1.61
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    Foggia_Apulia_MA:VK537,5.21,0.93,4.78,0.00,26.19,16.86,0.95,0.70,11.33,0.35,31.41,1.30
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    C3-Marcellino_&_Pietro_Imperial_Rome:R132:Antonio_2019,1.24,0,17.94,1.71,24.66,4.24,0,6.41,16.58,0.29,24.91,2.02
    C3-Viale_Rossini_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R80:Antonio_2019,3.6,0,11.4,0,27.69,7.57,0,3.33,16.8,0.28,28.39,0.94
    C4-ANAS_Imperial_Rome:R67:Antonio_2019,18.93,0,4.46,0.81,9.71,3.86,0.41,1.41,17.74,0,42.1,0.57
    C4-ANAS_Imperial_Rome:R68:Antonio_2019,17.66,0,3.38,0,12.85,0.04,0,1.12,19.87,0,44.63,0.45
    C4-ANAS_Imperial_Rome:R70:Antonio_2019,9.87,0.04,2.27,0,21.13,2.38,0,1.9,20.78,0,41.64,0
    C4-ANAS_Imperial_Rome:R73:Antonio_2019,10.71,0,6.38,0,23.57,4.41,0.48,0.11,18.48,0,34.78,1.09
    C4-Casale_del_Dolce_Imperial_Rome:R126:Antonio_2019,8.87,0.13,2.7,0,21.68,1.28,0.37,0,18.5,0.5,45.28,0.69
    C4-Isola_Sacra_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R38:Antonio_2019,11.97,0.24,2.94,0,17.99,1.99,0.16,0.3,18.03,0,46.26,0.13
    C4-Isola_Sacra_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R41:Antonio_2019,6.8,0,4.58,0.58,22.76,5.5,1.17,0.93,16.28,0.84,40.36,0.19
    C4-Isola_Sacra_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R42:Antonio_2019,8.78,0,3.65,0.61,16.08,0,0,1.86,24.68,0.29,43.58,0.49
    C4-Monterotondo_Imperial_Rome:R1547:Antonio_2019,7.68,0,5.24,0.75,16.6,0,0.88,2.25,24.3,0,42.29,0
    C4-Monterotondo_Imperial_Rome:R1550:Antonio_2019,12.14,0,7.34,0.46,14.89,1.07,0,1.17,23.92,0.34,38.67,0
    C4-Monterotondo_Imperial_Rome:R1551:Antonio_2019,14.51,0,0,0.07,10.96,4.32,0,0,15.15,0,54.02,0.96
    C4-Viale_Rossini_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R75:Antonio_2019,7.1,0,4.53,0,21.52,4.26,0.62,1.18,16.8,0.53,43.46,0
    C4-Viale_Rossini_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R76:Antonio_2019,7.56,0,3.38,0.5,17.19,5.76,0.79,0,19.2,0.06,45.56,0
    C5-ANAS_Imperial_Rome:R66:Antonio_2019,7.41,0,0,0.88,25.05,8.08,0,0,17.27,0,40.91,0.4
    C5-ANAS_Imperial_Rome:R69:Antonio_2019,7.86,0.81,0.57,0,27.22,11.31,0,0,9.7,0,42.15,0.39
    C5-ANAS_Imperial_Rome:R71:Antonio_2019,7.22,0,4.51,0,21.22,2.34,0,0,11.39,0,52.86,0.46
    C5-ANAS_Imperial_Rome:R72:Antonio_2019,8.93,0,0.55,0,23.61,5.18,0,0,16.96,0.36,43.85,0.57
    C5-Casale_del_Dolce_Imperial_Rome:R123:Antonio_2019,8.53,0,0,1.18,24.75,8.57,0,0,15.64,0,41.02,0.3
    C5-Casale_del_Dolce_Imperial_Rome:R128:Antonio_2019,8.25,0,1.27,0,20.16,8.57,0.69,0,14.58,0,46.38,0.1
    C5-Centocelle_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R50:Antonio_2019,8.31,0,0.91,0,25.51,11.04,0.37,0,15.34,0.52,36.86,1.15
    C5-Isola_Sacra_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R39:Antonio_2019,7.32,0.69,3.87,0.29,25.31,7.92,0,0,13.54,0.16,40.39,0.51
    C5-Isola_Sacra_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R40:Antonio_2019,7.17,1,0.52,0.04,27.69,5.79,0,0,15.54,0,41.29,0.97
    C5-Isola_Sacra_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R43:Antonio_2019,7.74,0,1.35,0,26.77,3.83,0.51,0,12.69,0,46.89,0.23
    C5-Isola_Sacra_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R44:Antonio_2019,5.19,0,2.37,0,29.27,4.24,0,0,12.92,0,45.7,0.31
    C5-Isola_Sacra_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R45:Antonio_2019,5.04,0,9.86,0,27.46,7.12,0.8,0,16.44,0,32.4,0.88
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    C5-Marcellino_&_Pietro_Imperial_Rome:R134:Antonio_2019,8.11,0,4.64,0.7,23.15,7.79,0,0.89,15.41,0,39.31,0.01
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    C5-Via_Paisiello_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R114:Antonio_2019,8.42,0,1.52,0,23.81,13.17,0.21,0,15.09,0,37.22,0.57
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    C5-Viale_Rossini_Necropolis_Imperial_Rome:R78:Antonio_2019,7.22,0,2.96,0,21.74,4.79,0,0.21,13.19,0.38,49.44,0.06
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    C6-Monterotondo_Imperial_Rome:R1549:Antonio_2019,9.21,0.08,3.15,0,27.32,20.37,0.6,0.6,11.39,0.18,26.54,0.57
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    C.Italy_Etruscan:PoggioRenzo(Siena_Tuscany)_772-436BCE:PRZ002,0,0,2.6,0.54,47.1,27.43,0,0,4.06,1.06,17.2,0
    C.Italy_Etruscan_related:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_356-96BCE:TAQ001,2.36,0,4.12,0.57,47.15,23.95,0,0,4.6,0,17.25,0
    C.Italy_Etruscan:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_103BCE-54CE:TAQ002,0,0,1.15,0.26,46.51,23.88,0,0,5.81,0,21.27,1.12
    C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_729-942CE:TAQ003,5.6,0,2.14,1.3,29.31,17.09,0.1,0.93,11.36,0,31.59,0.58
    C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_:TAQ004,1.71,0.66,0.95,0.36,48.5,23.89,0,0,5.59,0,17.87,0.48
    C.Italy_Etruscan_related:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_346-51BCE:TAQ005,1.39,0.44,5.14,0,46.29,17.75,0.22,0.33,8.86,0.41,18.68,0.49
    C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_:TAQ006,1.18,0,3.59,0,42.96,25.05,0.15,0,2.83,0,24.24,0
    C.Italy_Etruscan.Afr:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_391-207BCE:TAQ007,3.25,0.65,8.19,0,33.36,6.55,0.82,0,13.72,0.07,31.87,1.52
    C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio):TAQ008,4.27,1.3,0.28,0.84,49.67,21.5,0,0,3.99,0,17.53,0.63
    C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_899-1021CE:TAQ009,4.13,0.23,2.43,0.82,33.16,19.69,0.14,0,9.54,0,28.81,1.06
    C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio):TAQ010,0,0,1.32,0.05,48.43,24.81,0.71,0,4.04,0,20.41,0.24
    C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_895-1016CE:TAQ011,6.51,0.15,1.38,0.03,33.17,19.02,0,1.09,10.21,0,27.5,0.96
    C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio):TAQ012,3.32,0,1.79,0,51.8,17.96,0.72,0,7.3,0,16.79,0.33
    C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio):TAQ013,2.83,1.64,1.78,0,46.46,21.33,0,0,6.68,0,19.04,0.23
    C.Italy_Etruscan:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_346-51BCE:TAQ015,1.72,0,2.42,0,46.31,21.99,0,0,6.46,0.63,19.66,0.81
    C.Italy_Etruscan_undated:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio):TAQ016,2.43,0,1.67,0,46.91,24.12,0.84,0,5.34,0,18.06,0.63
    C.Italy_Etruscan_related:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_356-96BCE:TAQ017,4.08,0,1.96,0,48.92,20.11,0,0,5.6,0,19.12,0.21
    C.Italy_Etruscan_related:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_346-51BCE:TAQ018,0,0,0.47,0,48.53,20.84,0.43,0,6.5,1.43,20.91,0.89
    C.Italy_Etruscan:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_358-98BCE:TAQ019,0.49,0,2.18,0,47.66,24.5,0.17,0,5.48,0.04,19.27,0.21
    C.Italy_Imperial:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_89-236CE:TAQ020,9.02,0.66,1.49,0.5,34.13,18.73,0.12,0,7.43,0,27.92,0
    C.Italy_Imperial:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_262-424CE:TAQ021,3.74,0,2.51,0,33.22,11.47,2.01,0,12.62,0,34.44,0
    C.Italy_Early.Medieval:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_1018-1151CE:TAQ022,5.66,0,2.84,0,34.54,19.74,2.22,0,6.34,0,28.11,0.54
    C.Italy_Etruscan.Afr:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_396-216BCE:TAQ023,0.11,0,9.86,0,38.6,11.68,0.88,1.34,10.18,0,26.04,1.31
    C.Italy_Etruscan:Tarquinia(Viterbo_Lazio)_356-96BCE:TAQ024,1.55,0.2,4.01,0.27,46.92,21.83,0,0.36,4.57,0,20.29,0
    C.Italy_Etruscan_UDC_P:Chiostraccio(Siena_Tuscany)_174-53BCE:UDC_P,0,0,4.31,0,52.14,29.39,0,0,0.89,0,13.22,0.04
    S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_650-800CE:VEN001,5.14,0,3.87,0.01,28.18,17.6,0,0,11.33,2.38,29.77,1.73
    S.Italy_Venosa_VEN002:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_650-800CE:VEN002,2.79,8.01,0,12.59,16.3,9.93,3.89,0.01,6.34,27.43,12.71,0
    S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_650-763CE:VEN005,6.66,0,4.28,1.53,32.55,10.92,0,0,10.86,0.37,32.83,0
    S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_650-763CE:VEN006,8.51,0.54,5.29,0.22,27.14,16.32,0,0,9.76,1.99,30.08,0.16
    S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_660-766CE:VEN008,4.55,6.58,0,0,36.17,16.54,2.72,0,8.77,0,23.04,1.63
    S.Italy_Venosa_related:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_660-766CE:VEN009,4.96,0,10.9,0.28,29.02,16.26,0,3.03,6.57,0,28.99,0
    S.Italy_Venosa_related:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_670-775CE:VEN010,16.14,0,2.12,1.09,37.1,15.42,0,0.05,13.2,0,14.88,0
    S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_670-775CE:VEN012,2.86,0,1.41,0.17,24.58,14.71,0,1.75,12.7,5.77,36.03,0.03
    S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_670-775CE:VEN013,7.7,0,5.12,0,28.43,14.81,0,0,10.94,1.22,30.32,1.45
    S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_670-775CE:VEN014,12.68,0,5.83,0,33.04,0,0,0.24,17.71,1.35,28.74,0.42
    S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_670-775CE:VEN015,7.16,0,3.85,0.73,28.62,13.96,0.39,0,13.73,0,30.9,0.64
    S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_672-800CE:VEN016,6.56,0,6.02,0,25.63,16.98,0,0,13.65,0.44,30.73,0
    S.Italy_Venosa_related:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_672-800CE:VEN017,1.13,1.55,0,0.12,32.91,17.47,3.75,0,12.37,3.07,27.62,0
    S.Italy_Venosa:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_672-800CE:VEN018,9.33,0,3.69,0,27.33,17.18,0,0,19.59,0,20.74,2.14
    S.Italy_Venosa_related:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_672-800CE:VEN021,8.65,0,0.51,3.3,17.54,14.06,0,2.43,21.68,1.47,30.37,0
    S.Italy_Venosa_related:Venosa(Potenza_Basilicata)_672-800CE:VEN022,7.04,0,0,5.28,15.13,25.83,0,0.13,20.82,0,25.77,0
    C.Italy_Etruscan:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_750-406BCE:VET001,1.52,0,2.24,1.15,42.15,23.87,0,1.18,6.3,0,21.57,0
    C.Italy_Etruscan:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_790-550BCE:VET002,0.77,1.24,2.59,0,48.74,18.77,0,0,7.8,0.08,20.03,0
    C.Italy_Etruscan:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_800-590BCE:VET003_4,1.33,0,2.66,0,47.08,21.2,0.25,0.26,7.04,0.15,20.03,0
    C.Italy_Etruscan.Ceu:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_360-200BCE:VET005,7.72,0.55,0,0,43.13,37.83,0,1.41,1.61,0,7.74,0
    C.Italy_Etruscan:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_806-599BCE:VET007,0,0,2.57,0.68,51.02,20.09,0.22,0,6.74,0.42,17.63,0.63
    C.Italy_Etruscan.Afr:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_372-204BCE:VET008,0.41,0,8.27,0,38.29,9.06,0,1.75,12.78,0.04,28.42,0.99
    C.Italy_Etruscan:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_788-545BCE:VET010,0,0,4.61,0.76,48.22,21.92,0.27,0,3.53,0,20.12,0.57
    :Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_750-413BCE:VET011,0,0,6.57,0,51.11,17.17,0,2.72,3.32,0,19.1,0
    C.Italy_Etruscan:Vetulonia(Grosseto_Tuscany)_790-550BCE:VEU001,0,0,1.86,2.69,45.76,22.07,0,0.83,3.79,0,23.01,0
    C.Italy_Etruscan:Volterra(Pisa_Tuscany)_200-60BCE:VOL001,0.94,0,1.77,0,44.5,24.66,0.61,0.03,5.61,0,21.4,0.48
    Latini_IA:R851:Antonio_2019,1.08,0,1.52,0,49.35,25.19,0,0,1.78,0,20.65,0.44
    Latini_IA:R1016:Antonio_2019,3.25,1.53,0.94,0,47.98,19.32,1.2,0,3.3,0,22.38,0.1
    Latini_IA:R1021:Antonio_2019,1.77,0,0.94,0.76,48.63,23.97,0,0.15,1.54,0,21.8,0.44
    Latini_o:R850:Antonio_2019,7.3,0,4.52,1.08,21.26,10.54,0,0.43,14.77,0,40.1,0

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    2 members found this post helpful.
    Modern Italians with the same model.


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    Excellent!

    Pretty distant for me.

    Distance to: Angela
    24.26018137 C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    24.31156721 C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
    24.37300146 C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
    24.70697675 C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
    25.03866210 C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
    25.09841429 C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
    25.18892614 C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
    25.49166138 C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
    26.05354486 Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
    26.09138172 Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
    26.22363819 C_Italian_ChL:R4:Antonio_2019
    26.72349341 Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
    27.19550882 Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017
    27.56995103 Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
    28.18854555 Minoan:Petras_EBA:Pta08:Clemente_2021
    28.24224672 Anatolian_BA:I2495:Lazaridis_2017
    28.53345405 Anatolian_BA:I2499:Lazaridis_2017
    29.16841442 C_Italian_ChL:R5:Antonio_2019
    29.46490285 Minoan:Lasithi:I0070:Lazaridis_2017
    29.61191990 Minoan:Lasithi:I0073:Lazaridis_2017
    31.60297771 C_Italian_ChL:R1014:Antonio_2019
    32.05118563 Anatolian_BA:I2683:Lazaridis_2017
    36.42877983 Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015
    39.70539888 Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015
    61.60459885 Yamnaya:I0357_SVP5:Haak_2015


    This is better:
    Target: Angela
    Distance: 1.5664% / 1.56641303 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    50.5 C_Italian_N
    26.5 Yamnaya
    23.0 C_Italian_ChL



    Target: Angela
    Distance: 0.9681% / 0.96813731
    38.6 Minoan
    23.3 Yamnaya
    21.9 Remedello
    16.2 C_Italian_ChL

    This nails it, I think...
    Distance to: Angela
    3.83896877 27.00% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 73.00% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    4.09065336 25.20% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 74.80% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    4.13857146 25.60% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 74.40% C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
    4.40759733 25.20% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 74.80% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
    4.44977691 27.20% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 72.80% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    4.49543728 26.60% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 73.40% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    4.67383267 26.20% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 73.80% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    4.70984542 25.60% Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015 + 74.40% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    4.74169112 26.20% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 73.80% C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
    4.86302874 25.80% Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015 + 74.20% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    4.92399547 27.40% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 72.60% C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
    5.13766749 28.00% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 72.00% C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
    5.24721125 27.60% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 72.40% C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
    5.32270207 28.00% Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018 + 72.00% C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
    5.38597760 28.20% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 71.80% C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
    5.43080532 25.80% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 74.20% C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
    5.43976811 27.20% Yamnaya:I0443_SVP57:Haak_2015 + 72.80% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    5.51752741 26.80% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 73.20% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    5.60210860 27.40% Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018 + 72.60% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    5.60628865 28.60% Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018 + 71.40% C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
    5.62513016 26.80% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 73.20% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
    5.63149799 26.00% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 74.00% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
    5.69422975 26.80% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 73.20% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
    5.76786468 26.40% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 73.60% C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
    5.83636528 26.40% Yamnaya:I0231_SVP3:Haak_2015 + 73.60% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019

    Well, so much for all the crap about "foreign" ancestry.

    Dienekes and Jovialis strike again! :)


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    It looks like Iberomaurusian predates Anatolian BA in Italy, and yet where you find the one, you tend to find the other.

    How does Anatolian BA differ from Minoan? My impression is that it has more CHG but also a not insignificant percentage of Levantine (maybe 15%?), which in turn has an Iberomaurusian component?

    Also, it looks like much of the Anatolia BA did not arrive in Italy until Imperial times, whereas l would have guessed arrival during Magna Graecia times.

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    This chart comes from the Lazaridis lecture video. There is only 5% "Levantine farmer" (i.e. anatolia_N plus a smaller component of Ancestrial North African (Iberomaurusian/Taforalt-like) in Anatolia_BA, and about 35% CHG, and the rest is Anatolia_N. Ultimately it is shifted more towards the Caucasus from Minoans for the purpose of the model.

    I think me and Lazaridis used the same software (excel) to create the graphics.

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    Jovialis: Glad to you see you back with the models. I ran out of steam in the Ukraine/Russian thread that I was posting in about a week ago. Good work again.


    Distance to: PalermoTrapani_ANCESTRY
    1.17496553 20.60% Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015 + 79.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
    1.28693509 21.20% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 78.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
    1.36647810 22.00% Yamnaya:I0443_SVP57:Haak_2015 + 78.00% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
    1.44314492 20.60% Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015 + 79.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
    1.50221212 21.40% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 78.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
    1.57414517 21.00% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 79.00% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
    1.64614257 21.40% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 78.60% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
    1.64727524 21.20% Yamnaya:RISE552:Allentoft_2015 + 78.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
    1.75957172 21.60% Yamnaya:I0444_SVP58:Haak_2015 + 78.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
    1.79721364 21.60% Yamnaya:I0231_SVP3:Haak_2015 + 78.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
    1.95548849 22.60% Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018 + 77.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
    2.24290215 22.80% Yamnaya:I0357_SVP5:Haak_2015 + 77.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
    2.34513191 22.00% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 78.00% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
    2.38174691 20.20% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 79.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
    2.58535971 22.20% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 77.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
    3.16790718 20.80% Yamnaya:I0441_SVP54:Haak_2015 + 79.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
    3.77767701 22.60% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 77.40% Minoan:Petras_EBA:Pta08:Clemente_2021
    4.03149978 22.20% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 77.80% Minoan:Petras_EBA:Pta08:Clemente_2021
    4.13990371 22.80% Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015 + 77.20% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
    4.16142626 22.40% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 77.60% Minoan:Petras_EBA:Pta08:Clemente_2021
    4.19025458 23.60% Yamnaya:I0444_SVP58:Haak_2015 + 76.40% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
    4.22721269 24.60% Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018 + 75.40% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
    4.24409781 24.20% Yamnaya:I0443_SVP57:Haak_2015 + 75.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
    4.26021984 24.00% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 76.00% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
    4.26330568 23.20% Yamnaya:RISE552:Allentoft_2015 + 76.80% Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017



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    Sometimes I wonder if people are looking at different charts. There are a ton of samples there with a bit of Iberomaurisian and no Anatolia Bronze Age at all, and no, I don't think it's mostly from North Africans. The ones who are actually admixed are obvious.

    I think the component parts of Iberomaurisian have to be taken into consideration.

    Also, is about 5% of "Levantine" farmer in Anatolian Bronze Age samples a big whoops, especially when it's in a mix with Minoan like and Yamnaya and Italian Neolithic ancestry?

    How much is left? According to the scholars, when they look for it, they can't even find it according to the latest papers. No wonder, considering you're starting with 5%.

    Also, I can't believe that at this late date people think that all the samples found in the center of the Empire were of people who stayed to become part of the gene pool, i.e. not just traders or slaves in tanneries etc. I guess they didn't get the memo about how the "tail" into the Levant disappeared. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Modern Italians with the same model.

    I forgot to include R437 in the list. Here it is, and I think it is interesting to note that this sample resembles modern Central and Southern Italians.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Sometimes I wonder if people are looking at different charts. There are a ton of samples there with a bit of Iberomaurisian and no Anatolia Bronze Age at all, and no, I don't think it's mostly from North Africans. The ones who are actually admixed are obvious.

    I think the component parts of Iberomaurisian have to be taken into consideration.

    Could you please elaborate on this. For the record, I score relatively high in Anatolian BA and Iberomaurusian, so I do not have some kind of agenda that seeks to humiliate or de-Europeanize Southern Italians. Quite the contrary. I am simply trying to make sense of my own ancestry.

    So when you say that Iberomaurusian is not from North Africa, this begs the question of where you think it came from. I ask this question in all sincerity. I have my own half-baked notions, but I defer to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Also, I can't believe that at this late date people think that all the samples found in the center of the Empire were of people who stayed to become part of the gene pool, i.e. not just traders or slaves in tanneries etc. I guess they didn't get the memo about how the "tail" into the Levant disappeared. :)
    Well, in my case the "tail" doesn't seem to have disappeared. Admittedly, I am only half Italian, and you have told me several times that this skews my results in uncertain ways. Still, I'm inclined to believe that I carry more Iberomaurusian & Anatolian BA than most.

    Target: dominic
    Distance: 0.7577% / 0.75766248
    37.7 Yamnaya
    20.3 Remedello
    14.1 Minoan
    13.0 Anatolian_BA
    9.7 C_Italian_ChL
    3.3 Iberomaurusian
    1.9 C_Italian_N

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    Target: Stefano
    Distance: 0.5090% / 0.50902148
    37.4 Minoan
    28.8 Remedello
    27.4 Yamnaya
    6.2 C_Italian_ChL
    0.2 Bolshoy_Ostrov

    Jovialis:
    What is Bolshoy_Ostrov? why is it included? On a pca it seems near to Yamnaya.
    On the other calculators WHG+Anatolia+Steppe i usually get 32% Yamnaya, do you think this is more accurate? Isn't Remedello already slightly steppe admixed?
    What is the difference between C_Italian_Chl and C_italian_N?
    Why you prefer k12b over G25?
    Thanks, sorry for all the questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    I forgot to include R437 in the list. Here it is, and I think it is interesting to note that this sample resembles modern Central and Southern Italians.



    If you take the average of all C6 samples, and model it two ways with minoan, and yamnaya; it can provide many good fits. I think C6 is indeed similar to how Raveane et al 2022 describes the south, and south east of Italy.


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    Code:
    C6-C_Italian,7.229459459,0.162702703,2.425675676,0.198648649,29.92297297,15.03162162,0.25972973,0.369459459,11.31054054,0.092972973,32.6372973,0.360810811

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    Distance to: C6-C_Italian
    1.66776117 Italian_Molise
    1.76088054 Italian_Abruzzo
    2.63381190 Italian_Campania
    3.22499743 Jovialis
    3.74013553 Italian_Basilicata
    3.95775704 Italian_Sicily
    4.40584382 Italian_Apulia
    5.48862044 S_Italian_Sicilian
    5.94143083 Greek_Lemnos
    5.98622881 Sicilian
    6.12529869 Italian_Calabria
    6.20882406 Italian_Marche
    6.46105592 C_Italian
    6.46928358 Ashkenazi_Jew
    6.64025849 Italian_Lazio
    6.77242962 Greek_Central
    6.79637326 Greek_Foca
    6.82530132 Greek_Athens
    7.22545801 Moldovan_Jewish
    7.93201521 Italian_Umbria
    8.07664034 Greek_Izmir
    8.36786858 Greek_Fournoi
    8.58438134 Greek
    8.82947247 Greek_Peloponnese
    9.51409397 Greek_Crete

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    The average for C6 in central Italy looking like modern South Central and Southern Italians.

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    Jovialis: Thanks again, My results in-line with yours and consistent with the Raveane et al 2022 study you cited in post #12.



    Distance to: C6-C_Italian
    1.66776117 Italian_Molise
    1.76088054 Italian_Abruzzo
    2.63381190 Italian_Campania
    2.92573396 PalermoTrapani_ANCESTRY
    3.74013553 Italian_Basilicata
    3.95775704 Italian_Sicily
    4.40584382 Italian_Apulia
    6.12529869 Italian_Calabria
    6.20882406 Italian_Marche
    6.64025849 Italian_Lazio
    7.93201521 Italian_Umbria
    9.73871893 Italian_Romagna
    10.20549959 Italian_Jew
    12.65020694 Italian_Tuscany
    14.42294064 Italian_Emilia
    15.25993457 Italian_Liguria
    18.10215428 Italian_Lombardy
    18.11130923 Italian_Veneto
    18.26150405 Italian_Piedmont
    19.28108597 Italian_Friuli_VG
    22.19272319 Italian_Trentino
    25.21794289 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    30.41534984 Sardinian

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    Distance to: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    28.61736361 Anatolian_BA:I2495:Lazaridis_2017
    28.69391573 Anatolian_BA:I2499:Lazaridis_2017
    29.49784738 Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
    29.81785204 Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017
    30.38551300 Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
    31.07440587 Minoan:Petras_EBA:Pta08:Clemente_2021
    31.22423898 Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
    31.38223064 C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
    31.53360113 Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
    31.96140172 C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    32.05317301 C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
    32.34111934 C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
    32.38495021 C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
    32.49780762 Anatolian_BA:I2683:Lazaridis_2017
    32.89528690 Minoan:Lasithi:I0070:Lazaridis_2017
    32.89886320 C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
    32.99595884 C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
    33.05894735 Minoan:Lasithi:I0073:Lazaridis_2017
    34.01935038 C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
    34.32764192 C_Italian_ChL:R4:Antonio_2019
    37.31283425 C_Italian_ChL:R5:Antonio_2019
    41.20195384 C_Italian_ChL:R1014:Antonio_2019
    43.72226893 Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015
    47.44897365 Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015
    54.49614665 Yamnaya:I0357_SVP5:Haak_2015

    Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    Distance: 2.7450% / 2.74500617 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    35.1 C_Italian_ChL
    34.2 Minoan
    30.7 Yamnaya



    Target: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    Distance: 2.2241% / 2.22410637
    46.1 Minoan
    29.2 Yamnaya
    22.8 Remedello
    1.5 Iberomaurusian
    0.4 Bolshoy_Ostrov

    Distance to: Dodecadk12bStuvanè
    3.19205865 33.20% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 66.80% C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
    3.80035472 33.60% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 66.40% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    4.39565530 33.60% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 66.40% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
    4.83706059 33.80% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 66.20% C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
    4.85825404 33.80% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 66.20% C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
    5.25949134 35.40% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 64.60% C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
    5.43054658 34.00% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 66.00% C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
    5.61647911 35.80% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 64.20% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    5.65132135 34.00% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 66.00% C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
    5.65938600 34.60% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 65.40% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    5.85659699 35.60% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 64.40% C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
    5.88052897 35.80% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 64.20% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
    5.97096477 36.00% Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018 + 64.00% C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
    6.07843683 36.00% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 64.00% C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
    6.10525279 36.00% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 64.00% C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
    6.21048736 36.00% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 64.00% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    6.24081195 36.60% Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018 + 63.40% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    6.33726171 34.00% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 66.00% C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
    6.36305550 34.20% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 65.80% Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
    6.37269840 36.20% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 63.80% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
    6.38684459 33.80% Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015 + 66.20% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    6.44183900 33.80% Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015 + 66.20% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    6.44194368 33.40% Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015 + 66.60% C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
    6.45142055 36.40% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 63.60% C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
    6.50220515 36.40% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 63.60% C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019

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    Here is my two-way using the source samples from the K8 model.

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    Based on my observations for 2-way, Northerners and Tuscans get C_Italian_N + Yamnaya, and Central and Southern Italians get Minoan + Yamnaya

    C_Italian_N differs from Minoan because C_Italian_N has about 5% WHG, the rest is mostly Anatolian_N + a little bit of CHG. Where Minoan is strictly a two-way of Anatolian_N + about 15% CHG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post


    Here is my two-way using the source samples from the K8 model.














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    Jovialis you are right about the 2 way models

    Distance to: Stefano
    2.96824958 30.80% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 69.20% C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
    3.06802173 30.40% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 69.60% C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
    3.73193350 32.40% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 67.60% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    4.24639471 30.00% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 70.00% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
    4.25697071 30.60% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 69.40% C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
    4.42186486 32.80% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 67.20% C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
    4.47500019 32.60% Yamnaya:RISE547:Allentoft_2015 + 67.40% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    4.62940760 32.00% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 68.00% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    4.84301169 32.20% Yamnaya:I0438_SVP50:Haak_2015 + 67.80% C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
    4.89061999 33.00% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 67.00% C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
    4.89892883 32.20% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 67.80% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
    4.93516135 33.60% Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018 + 66.40% C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
    4.98989000 30.20% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 69.80% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    5.05106643 31.40% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 68.60% C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
    5.06121556 30.40% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 69.60% C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
    5.17866938 30.80% Yamnaya:RISE548:Allentoft_2015 + 69.20% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    5.21381726 33.00% Yamnaya:I2105:Mathieson_2018 + 67.00% C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
    5.21954968 30.40% Yamnaya:RISE546:Allentoft_2015 + 69.60% C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
    5.23281473 31.80% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 68.20% C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
    5.34023078 32.60% Yamnaya:I0370_SVP10:Haak_2015 + 67.40% C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
    5.34549702 31.20% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 68.80% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    5.35954688 32.00% Yamnaya:RISE550:Allentoft_2015 + 68.00% C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
    5.40948860 30.80% Yamnaya:I0429_SVP38:Haak_2015 + 69.20% C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    5.46160614 31.00% Yamnaya:I3141:Mathieson_2018 + 69.00% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
    5.50352678 31.60% Yamnaya:RISE240:Allentoft_2015 + 68.40% C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019

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    Mine...

    Distance to: italouruguayan
    36.77070029 Anatolian_BA:I2495:Lazaridis_2017
    36.82224192 Anatolian_BA:I2499:Lazaridis_2017
    38.92345951 Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
    39.24189598 Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017
    39.76766526 Anatolian_BA:I2683:Lazaridis_2017
    40.46768835 Minoan:Petras_EBA:Pta08:Clemente_2021
    40.67994223 Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
    41.37306491 C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
    41.37859350 Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
    41.68839647 C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
    41.70165105 Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
    41.86577958 C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
    41.94096208 C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
    42.11336486 C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    42.34487100 C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
    42.46943842 C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
    42.76264374 C_Italian_ChL:R4:Antonio_2019
    43.09636760 Minoan:Lasithi:I0073:Lazaridis_2017
    43.18381410 Minoan:Lasithi:I0070:Lazaridis_2017


    Target: italouruguayan
    Distance: 435.2537% / 4.35253733
    22.8 Remedello
    22.6 Yamnaya
    19.6 Minoan
    18.6 Bolshoy_Ostrov
    10.6 Anatolian_BA
    5.8 Iberomaurusian

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    The model is very cool. Congratulations Jovialis.
    However, considering, on the one hand, the fact that I am not Italian and, on the other hand, the fact that I am not 100% European, I see that the adjustments are not exceptional for me as it’s to others users. 3.675% in admixture mode. In simple mode, I'd rather not even comment, lol. I picked some samples from other European populations to add to those of the original model just for fun and to obtain slightly better fits in mixed mode and simple mode, just for fun lol.

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    Distance to: Duarte
    29.88531579 C_Italian_ChL:R4:Antonio_2019
    31.78933626 C_Italian_ChL:R5:Antonio_2019
    32.35028902 C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
    32.49682292 C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
    32.99247035 C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019
    33.10756107 C_Italian_N:R3:Antonio_2019
    33.21771666 C_Italian_N:R10:Antonio_2019
    33.33528611 C_Italian_N:R8:Antonio_2019
    33.49879252 Remedello:RISE489:Allentoft_2015
    34.08346080 C_Italian_N:R9:Antonio_2019
    34.54672054 C_Italian_N:R18:Antonio_2019
    36.49465440 Remedello:RISE487:Allentoft_2015
    38.07036774 Minoan:Lasithi:I9005:Lazaridis_2017
    38.31550991 C_Italian_ChL:R1014:Antonio_2019
    38.40018359 Minoan:Odigitria:I9130:Lazaridis_2017
    39.36880745 Minoan:Odigitria:I9131:Lazaridis_2017
    39.86482660 Minoan:Lasithi:I0074:Lazaridis_2017
    40.81832432 Anatolian_BA:I2495:Lazaridis_2017
    41.05638196 Minoan:Lasithi:I0071:Lazaridis_2017
    41.05687762 Minoan:Petras_EBA:Pta08:Clemente_2021
    41.44927382 Anatolian_BA:I2499:Lazaridis_2017
    43.06909565 Minoan:Lasithi:I0070:Lazaridis_2017
    43.24427939 Minoan:Lasithi:I0073:Lazaridis_2017
    44.30643746 Anatolian_BA:I2683:Lazaridis_2017
    56.86772459 Yamnaya:I0357_SVP5:Haak_2015

    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 3.6750% / 3.67497197
    50.7 Remedello
    23.3 Yamnaya
    15.5 Anatolian_BA
    9.5 Iberomaurusian
    1.0 Bolshoy_Ostrov
    0.0 C_Italian_ChL
    0.0 C_Italian_N
    0.0 Minoan



    (Original) + (some others samples selected by me)

    Distance to: Duarte
    12.80622895 Salzmuende_MN:I0802:Lipson_2017
    14.87106587 Bulgaria_EBA:I2176:Mathieson_2018
    16.42045066 Bulgaria_EBA:Bul10:Mathieson_2018
    16.69155775 Bulgaria_EBA:I2175:Mathieson_2018
    17.84517302 Bulgaria_EBA:Bul8:Mathieson_2018
    18.28217438 Bulgaria_EBA:Bul6:Mathieson_2018
    19.03379626 Bulgaria_EBA:I2165:Mathieson_2018
    19.89258907 Salzmuende_MN:I0800:Lipson_2017
    23.11298769 Scotland_CA_EBA:I2569:Olalde_2018
    24.34010066 Scotland_CA_EBA:I5470:Olalde_2018
    26.69226667 Scotland_CA_EBA:I3132:Olalde_2018
    27.93732450 Scotland_CA_EBA:I5473:Olalde_2018
    28.19053565 Scotland_CA_EBA:I5516:Olalde_2018
    29.88531579 C_Italian_ChL:R4:Antonio_2019
    29.94364373 Scotland_CA_EBA:I5515:Olalde_2018
    30.63356492 Scotland_CA_EBA:I2567:Olalde_2018
    31.41962444 Anatolian_N:Ash128:Yaka_2021
    31.78933626 C_Italian_ChL:R5:Antonio_2019
    32.01319884 Anatolian_N:Ash133:Yaka_2021
    32.35028902 C_Italian_N:R19:Antonio_2019
    32.47247296 Anatolian_N:CCH285:Yaka_2021
    32.49682292 C_Italian_N:R16:Antonio_2019
    32.53782568 Anatolian_N:Bar31:Hofmanova_2016
    32.73571597 NE_Iberia_MLN:I10287:Olalde_2019
    32.99247035 C_Italian_N:R2:Antonio_2019

    Target: Duarte
    Distance: 0.3243% / 0.32425908
    26.2 Scotland_CA_EBA
    19.8 Salzmuende_MN
    17.2 Anatolian_N
    14.8 Bulgaria_EBA
    8.1 NE_Iberia_MLN
    6.6 Iberomaurusian
    6.1 Yamnaya
    1.2 Anatolian_BA
    0.0 Bolshoy_Ostrov
    0.0 C_Italian_ChL
    0.0 C_Italian_N
    0.0 Minoan
    0.0 Remedello



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    3 members found this post helpful.
    Most of these calculators and the ones by others as well show high Central Italian Neolithic for me, 73% in some of the runs, lowering my Yamnaya by about 3%.

    I wish there were more Italians posting their results so I could see if that holds true.

    I would be really interested, for example, in results from the Marche and Umbria.to see where they fall in the cline.

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    1 members found this post helpful.
    Quote Originally Posted by italouruguayan View Post
    Mine...
    Target: italouruguayan
    Distance: 435.2537% / 4.35253733
    22.8 Remedello
    22.6 Yamnaya
    19.6 Minoan
    18.6 Bolshoy_Ostrov
    10.6 Anatolian_BA
    5.8 Iberomaurusian
    Hi Italouruguayan -- Where in Italy did your ancestors come from? And from what other countries do you have ancestry?

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