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    Are there still the source groups of Vahaduo K13 Smaller and Bigger regions?

    Sad to see Vahaduo is nearly offline. Are there still somewhere the sources or comparable or better?

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    Only k13 updated Bigger Regions is available. But thank you very much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by burokrat View Post
    Only k13 updated Bigger Regions is available. But thank you very much!
    You may find older versions of Smaller Regions

    https://web.archive.org/web/20210928...13-vahaduo.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pax Augusta View Post
    You may find older versions of Smaller Regions

    https://web.archive.org/web/20210928...13-vahaduo.htm
    Thanks Pax Augusta: I went to the archived file and could not get the Dodecad coordinates, is there a way to get that archived data?

    Thanks, PT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burokrat View Post
    Sad to see Vahaduo is nearly offline. Are there still somewhere the sources or comparable or better?
    Anyone know why?


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    If you have the coordinates handy, you can always just copy and paste them here:

    Vahaduo: Admixture JS 21.01

    Frankly, I don't know who runs this page, but it is an extremely valuable tool. The software is open source, I think it would be fantastic if it was hosted directly on Eupedia.

    Thankfully, the 3D PCA is also still around:

    Vahaduo: Custom PCA


    I think the page that was lost, which hosted all the code for the various calculator, was hosted by LukasM. Someone should reach out to him, if he could shed some light on the issue.

    At any rate, you can still find all of the Dodecad K12b (my signature), K7, and G13 Ancient samples here on Eupedia; where they were produced. As well as the modern samples. We're good.

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    I went to the page and saw this:

    Hello Vahaduo lovers! Do you like Gedmatch and G25 calculators? Add your sheet and enjoy the power of admixture, components and ethnic estimation. We don't want to restrict you giving predefined calculators. It's boring! Be creative and look for them on Internet or create your unique set of references. No more automated click&play results. Go beyound your laziness and discover the biggest genetic adventure in your life. Be smart! Be curious! Be the Vahaduo!

    Below is the frame with original Vahaduo website included. Remember it's the only legit version, so don't complain as there is no other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pax Augusta View Post
    You may find older versions of Smaller Regions

    https://web.archive.org/web/20210928...13-vahaduo.htm
    I just noticed that the 2way analysis is only available in the archived version. That's a shame, because I think it was an interesting tool.

    That makes me think it is more than just deleting the coordinates so people won't be lazy, which is an odd reason imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palermo Trapani View Post
    Thanks Pax Augusta: I went to the archived file and could not get the Dodecad coordinates, is there a way to get that archived data?

    Thanks, PT.
    here it is, ... the archived data of the site with some extra samples here and there.
    … fyi, it included tons of coordinates processed by Jovialis, also contributions by Maciamo, Duarte, others, … and me :)

    … the App with the 2WAY is included.

    https://www.mediafire.com/file/qc77m...racle.zip/file

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    I went to the page and saw this:

    Hello Vahaduo lovers! Do you like Gedmatch and G25 calculators? Add your sheet and enjoy the power of admixture, components and ethnic estimation. We don't want to restrict you giving predefined calculators. It's boring! Be creative and look for them on Internet or create your unique set of references. No more automated click&play results. Go beyound your laziness and discover the biggest genetic adventure in your life. Be smart! Be curious! Be the Vahaduo!

    Below is the frame with original Vahaduo website included. Remember it's the only legit version, so don't complain as there is no other.

    They also managed to remove the versions that Pax pointed out to us, those uploaded to Web Archive.


    As things stand, I would say that they have gone much further than the invitation not to be lazy.
    Rather, it seems to me that someone needs the cash, and to monopolise the data for oracle and PCA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    here it is, ... the archived data of the site with some extra samples here and there.
    … fyi, it included tons of coordinates processed by Jovialis, also contributions by Maciamo, Duarte, others, … and me :)

    … the App with the 2WAY is included.

    https://www.mediafire.com/file/qc77m...racle.zip/file
    Salento: Thanks!, greatly appreciated. We haven't crossed paths in a while, hope things are well with you and your family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    here it is, ... the archived data of the site with some extra samples here and there.
    … fyi, it included tons of coordinates processed by Jovialis, also contributions by Maciamo, Duarte, others, … and me :)

    … the App with the 2WAY is included.

    https://www.mediafire.com/file/qc77m...racle.zip/file
    You are the man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palermo Trapani View Post
    Salento: Thanks!, greatly appreciated. We haven't crossed paths in a while, hope things are well with you and your family.
    … it’s all good in the hood :) thanks PT and Jovialis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    here it is, ... the archived data of the site with some extra samples here and there.
    … fyi, it included tons of coordinates processed by Jovialis, also contributions by Maciamo, Duarte, others, … and me :)

    … the App with the 2WAY is included.

    https://www.mediafire.com/file/qc77m...racle.zip/file
    Nice job Salento. Now I am out of juice but your work deserve many and many “likes”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duarte View Post
    Nice job Salento. Now I am out of juice but your work deserve many and many “likes”.
    Thanks Duarte, … I ran out of it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    here it is, ... the archived data of the site with some extra samples here and there.
    … fyi, it included tons of coordinates processed by Jovialis, also contributions by Maciamo, Duarte, others, … and me :)

    … the App with the 2WAY is included.
    Thank you so much. But there are no smaller and bigger region coordinates that were added several weeks ago. There were some new samples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    here it is, ... the archived data of the site with some extra samples here and there.
    … fyi, it included tons of coordinates processed by Jovialis, also contributions by Maciamo, Duarte, others, … and me :)
    … the App with the 2WAY is included.
    https://www.mediafire.com/file/qc77m...racle.zip/file
    I have linked your post in a sticky thread, for where to find the data. Once again, thank you for this!

    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...547#post645547

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    … nice, Jovialis, … Thanks :)

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    Thanks Salento!
    Last edited by Amarelo; 30-04-22 at 00:50.

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