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Thread: Half-Cretan result

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    T-CTS6507
    MtDNA haplogroup
    H1e2

    Country: Denmark



    Half-Cretan result

    European: 69.6%
    Scandinavian 51.7%
    Italian 15.3%
    Greek & Balkan 0.7%
    Broadly Southern European 1.7%
    West Asian & North African 30.4%
    Anatolian 20.2%
    Cypriot 2.6%
    Iranian, Caucasian & Mesopotamian 2.5%
    Broadly Northern West Asian 5.1%


    This is my ancestry report from 23andme. One obvious lineage aside, I was not surprised by the presence of Italian and Anatolian in the mix, as tests from Cretan Greeks have previously revealed a distinction from mainlanders. However, the total West Eurasian influence seems disproportionately high. Even unmixed results tend to barely score more than 20% Anatolian, and the bulk instead tends to come from a South Italian association, not to mention some non-negligible Balkan influence.
    I'm curious as to whether or not this is anything out of the ordinary, possibly indicating a relic of Ottoman migrations despite my surname not suggesting this.

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    Y-DNA haplogroup
    R1b-M269 (LDNA)
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    Ethnic group
    Thracian
    Country: Greece



    Quote Originally Posted by silikone View Post
    European: 69.6%
    Scandinavian 51.7%
    Italian 15.3%
    Greek & Balkan 0.7%
    Broadly Southern European 1.7%
    West Asian & North African 30.4%
    Anatolian 20.2%
    Cypriot 2.6%
    Iranian, Caucasian & Mesopotamian 2.5%
    Broadly Northern West Asian 5.1%


    This is my ancestry report from 23andme. One obvious lineage aside, I was not surprised by the presence of Italian and Anatolian in the mix, as tests from Cretan Greeks have previously revealed a distinction from mainlanders. However, the total West Eurasian influence seems disproportionately high. Even unmixed results tend to barely score more than 20% Anatolian, and the bulk instead tends to come from a South Italian association, not to mention some non-negligible Balkan influence.
    I'm curious as to whether or not this is anything out of the ordinary, possibly indicating a relic of Ottoman migrations despite my surname not suggesting this.
    It might be a number of things that would explain the rather large West Asian and North African ancestry. In the exchange of populations between Greece and Turkey, Cretan Muslims speaking the Greek/Cretan language were exchanged for Orthodox Christians of Asian Minor mainly from Smyrna. Do you have any info on where your grandparents/gtreat grandparents came from? Surnames (Last names)?

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    The only thing I know is that my grandfather and his siblings have been residing in various places near Sitia, sharing a surname with an 'akis suffix.

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    Ethnic group
    Italian
    Country: United States



    Quote Originally Posted by silikone View Post
    The only thing I know is that my grandfather and his siblings have been residing in various places near Sitia, sharing a surname with an 'akis suffix.
    I see that your Y Haplogroup is T1a1…, I’m T1a2… and though it’s a different line from yours, we still share very ancient paternal ancestors.
    🕷️

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    Regular Member torzio's Avatar
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    Ethnic group
    North Italian
    Country: Australia



    Quote Originally Posted by silikone View Post
    European: 69.6%
    Scandinavian 51.7%
    Italian 15.3%
    Greek & Balkan 0.7%
    Broadly Southern European 1.7%
    West Asian & North African 30.4%
    Anatolian 20.2%
    Cypriot 2.6%
    Iranian, Caucasian & Mesopotamian 2.5%
    Broadly Northern West Asian 5.1%


    This is my ancestry report from 23andme. One obvious lineage aside, I was not surprised by the presence of Italian and Anatolian in the mix, as tests from Cretan Greeks have previously revealed a distinction from mainlanders. However, the total West Eurasian influence seems disproportionately high. Even unmixed results tend to barely score more than 20% Anatolian, and the bulk instead tends to come from a South Italian association, not to mention some non-negligible Balkan influence.
    I'm curious as to whether or not this is anything out of the ordinary, possibly indicating a relic of Ottoman migrations despite my surname not suggesting this.

    Interesting ...........................your T1a1 ydna .................i am T1a2 ydna

    you have Scandinavian roots ...................I have 50% matching with Swedish, Danish and Finnish people in my MtDna ( 5 people )...................usually from Scania and Gotland ..............the Danish match is with surname Krog
    Fathers mtdna ...... T2b17
    Grandfather paternal mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ...... K1a4p
    Mothers line ..... R1b-S8172
    Grandmother paternal side ... I1-CTS6397
    Wife paternal line ..... R1a-PF6155

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    1 members found this post helpful.
    Quote Originally Posted by silikone View Post
    The only thing I know is that my grandfather and his siblings have been residing in various places near Sitia, sharing a surname with an 'akis suffix.
    -akis suffix is very typical of Cretan surnames.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    I see that your Y Haplogroup is T1a1…, I’m T1a2… and though it’s a different line from yours, we still share very ancient paternal ancestors.
    If I am not mistaken, T1a2 in Europe is typically a Neolithic marker. Eupedia's page on haplogroup T posits a South Caucasian origin for my subclade, one associated with the Bronze Age spread to Europe that started in Crete, so I could possibly have a unique Minoan line.

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