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Thread: Genomic analysis of two Pompeians that died during the eruption of Vesuvius in 79 AD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    To the best of my recollection a man in northern England, York maybe, was found to carry Ydna A. His innocent wife was filled saying she would try to make African food for him but didn't know how. Oy veh!

    Darling lady, it might have been in England since the Neolithic, or the Bronze Age or the Roman period. Your husband is not African. :)
    indeed
    he belonged to a different branch of y haplogroup A
    called A-m31
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2590664/
    this branch somehow made it from africa to scandinavia finland
    this branch might arrived to europe in roman times
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/A1a/
    ancestery :
    mostly western jewish here is the overlapp with south europe[U]

    "Know where you came from and where you are going."

    Direct paternal line : mizrahi from damascus

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    f1R (Pompeii Victim) GedM... # WU2107095

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    R11109 MALE 1 CE 1749.5 400 CE ARCHAEOLOGY Isola_Sacra Y-DNA: J-Y15222

    Still waiting for this sample to be added to the tree. Very interested to know if this sample is an immigrant or native to Italy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentica2637 View Post
    R11109 MALE 1 CE 1749.5 400 CE ARCHAEOLOGY Isola_Sacra Y-DNA: J-Y15222
    Still waiting for this sample to be added to the tree. Very interested to know if this sample is an immigrant or native to Italy

    this is the y haplogroup of my friend principe ( azurro)
    i also hope it will be in the yfull tree for him

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    this is the y haplogroup of my friend principe ( azurro)
    i also hope it will be in the yfull tree for him
    Yes I know him well same y dna as me. We have asked for the sample to be added so it shouldn’t be much longer hopefully. Just wanna know if he will sit above me or just beneath me and my sibling branch the Russians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentica2637 View Post
    Yes I know him well same y dna as me. We have asked for the sample to be added so it shouldn’t be much longer hopefully. Just wanna know if he will sit above me or just beneath me and my sibling branch the Russians

    this is the relevant thread for this specific sample R11109
    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...749#post651749

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    sorry
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    La Casa del Fabbro was closed to the public. I was told that it is close to the Casa del Menandro :)






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    It takes a minimum of two and half hours to see Pompei, … Amazing.
    We’re used to sight seeing antiquity, the difference was seeing the last moment of an active Ancient Town and its People frozen in time.

    … and though it was very hot, for perspective, and out of respect for the ancient people of the town, I didn’t complain :)








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    i asked the administrator of TheYtree (chinese site)
    https://www.theytree.com/
    to upload the bam file of f1R the pompeii a-m13 individual
    to his site
    i gave him the bam file link of this pompeii individual
    contrary to yfull who never uploaded ancients that i asked from them he agrees
    kudos to him

    https://www.theytree.com/tree/A-M13


    p.s
    by the way here is the room from where he was taken

    The remains were found in the Casa del Fabbro, or House of the Craftsman
    Last edited by kingjohn; 02-08-22 at 04:07.

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    There’s a Bronze-Age necropolis in Pompei,
    It seems that the femur of the individual on the right has been partially cut, … maybe they did a variety of tests.


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    Cool images Salento.
    Whenever the mega millions goes up high, and I fantasize about winning; one of my personal goals would be to fund genetic research specifically for Italy. Harvard's grant for the Reich Lab is $400,000. Imagine what a $1 million could achieve. We would probably know Italian aDNA from the Paleolithic to the modern era definitively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Cool images Salento.
    Whenever the mega millions goes up high, and I fantasize about winning; one of my personal goals would be to fund genetic research specifically for Italy. Harvard's grant for the Reich Lab is $400,000. Imagine what a $1 million could achieve. We would probably know Italian aDNA from the Paleolithic to the modern era definitively.
    In the Casa del Fabbro they found a bag of money next to the woman, … in a way she has already paid to sequence f1R (maybe her son).
    :)

    https://explorersweb.com/pompeii-man-dna-found/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    In the Casa del Fabbro they found a bag of money next to the woman, … in a way she has already paid to sequence f1R (maybe her son).
    :)

    https://explorersweb.com/pompeii-man-dna-found/
    Welcome back Salento. Hope you enjoyed the trip. Great photos from Pompei, thanks for sharing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    In the Casa del Fabbro they found a bag of money next to the woman, … in a way she has already paid to sequence f1R (maybe her son).
    :)
    https://explorersweb.com/pompeii-man-dna-found/
    Have you been in this Casa Del Fabbro in your visit there?
    That is so cool 😎

    P.s
    Few days ago I saw the movie pompeii from 2014
    It is amazing you are there italy is lucky
    To have this place

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    Have you been in this Casa Del Fabbro in your visit there?
    That is so cool ������
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    Few days ago I saw the movie pompeii from 2014
    It is amazing you are there italy is lucky
    To have this place
    … it was closed to the public, … but they feature the House of the Day, … a daily opening rotation of an off limit site , … it wasn't its day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palermo Trapani View Post
    Welcome back Salento. Hope you enjoyed the trip. Great photos from Pompei, thanks for sharing.
    @PT I think I saw the Gate of Inferno, smoke rising from the Mountain, … you would have appreciated the vineyard outside the Amphitheater, … the Vino is good, Nectar of the Gods :)




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    Volcanic soil is the best for growing things. The vegetables and fruits of Campania, including tomatoes, especially around Vesuvius, are very, very good imo, and contribute so much flavor to Neapolitan food, that and the fish from the sea make for a wonderful cuisine. I love it.


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    Salento: Sounded like a great evening with the view and the vinno. Campania is definitely on my to go list next time I travel to Italy. Again thanks for those pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    Volcanic soil is the best for growing things. The vegetables and fruits of Campania, including tomatoes, especially around Vesuvius, are very, very good imo, and contribute so much flavor to Neapolitan food, that and the fish from the sea make for a wonderful cuisine. I love it.
    Two of my uncles are from Naples and they're both exceptional cooks, and both own/owned restaurants.

    @Salento, did you get a chance to see Reggia di Caserta? It was a great excursion we had seen in our time in Campania.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Two of my uncles are from Naples and they're both exceptional cooks, and both own/owned restaurants.

    @Salento, did you get a chance to see Reggia di Caserta? It was a great excursion we had seen in our time in Campania.
    I was there as a kid, … a family trip, though I didn't pay much attention to details, I would like to see it again.

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