PaleoRevenge
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Here are the two scenarios for Albanians, again based on the assumption that the plots from the recent study encompass all the relevant coordinates. And it should be fine, since there are no other populations unaccounted for.
Model 1, the Illyrian model. Orange circle represents the pre-Slavic Albanians. Yellow represents Slavic pull, brown Anatolian-Levant pull. For Albanians to plot where they do today, they need to mix with Middle Easterns as much as they mixed with Slavs. Not a good model, but I am sure there are people here willing to give up anything just to be Illyrian.
Scenario two, that's being championed by some really cool people. Albanians come from a western Thracian related group with some Paeonian/Dardanian mixture and absorbs the remnants of the Illyrians. The orange circle here represents this Thracian population merged with the remnants of the Illyrians. Yellow represents Slavic pull, brown the Anatolian, Levant mixture.
For the Illyrian model to work, Albanians would have had to mix with Middle Easterns exclusively in the middle ages up to 1800 AD (see the Mdv and post-Mdv plots) then in the last 200 years absorbed Slavic genes. The Illyrian model also requires a lot of ME mixture to work.
The Thracian model is a lot smoother and more inline with what we know to be historically true, Albanians have experienced little ME mixture, and a stronger Slavic mixture. The Albanian Medieval plots are basically Thracian with a Slavic only pull. The other option for Medieval Albs is Illyrian with a ME pull, LOL.
Model 1, the Illyrian model. Orange circle represents the pre-Slavic Albanians. Yellow represents Slavic pull, brown Anatolian-Levant pull. For Albanians to plot where they do today, they need to mix with Middle Easterns as much as they mixed with Slavs. Not a good model, but I am sure there are people here willing to give up anything just to be Illyrian.
Scenario two, that's being championed by some really cool people. Albanians come from a western Thracian related group with some Paeonian/Dardanian mixture and absorbs the remnants of the Illyrians. The orange circle here represents this Thracian population merged with the remnants of the Illyrians. Yellow represents Slavic pull, brown the Anatolian, Levant mixture.
For the Illyrian model to work, Albanians would have had to mix with Middle Easterns exclusively in the middle ages up to 1800 AD (see the Mdv and post-Mdv plots) then in the last 200 years absorbed Slavic genes. The Illyrian model also requires a lot of ME mixture to work.
The Thracian model is a lot smoother and more inline with what we know to be historically true, Albanians have experienced little ME mixture, and a stronger Slavic mixture. The Albanian Medieval plots are basically Thracian with a Slavic only pull. The other option for Medieval Albs is Illyrian with a ME pull, LOL.