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    Slovincians (Leba Kashubs) - Protestant Slavs native to former Provinz Pommern

    In this thread I will post autosomal results of Slovincians (a.k.a. Leba Kashubs) from the village of Kluki:

    https://muzeumkluki.pl/en/

    In total there will be a sample size of at least n=3, but today the first person's results became available.

    Slovincians are a sub-ethnic group, considered a subgroup of Kashubs, native to the Slovincian coast:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashub...cal_population

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovincian_Coast

    About the Slavs of former Provinz Pommern: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provin...)#Demographics

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    Map of the Slovincian coast region compared to the pre-war Polish-German border (highlighted red color):



    Pre-war & modern Poland's border and the Slovincian coast region located in pre-1945 German Pommern:



    Slovincian coast with the locations of Leba (Lebsko) Lake, Gardno Lake and the village of Kluki (Klucken):

    There are words which carry the presage of defeat. Defence is such a word. What is the result of an even victorious defence? The next attempt of imposing it to that weaker, defender. The attacker, despite temporary setback, feels the master of situation.

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    Pollex is a common Pomeranian Slavic surname and used to be one of the most common surnames in Kluki.

    On website NVK genealogy we can see the distribution of this surname according to the 1890 census data:

    https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Pollex

    Family Finder "My Origins" of the first Slovincian sample (I censored the given name for privacy reasons):

    Europe 100%
    West Slavic 88%
    Central Europe 7%
    Scandinavia 6%



    Ancient European Origins results of this Slovincian are:

    12% Metal Age Invader
    35% Farmer
    53% Hunter-Gatherer
    0% non-European

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    GEDmatch calculator results:

    Kit Number: XM1216887
    Name: *Kluki Slovincian A

    Eurogenes K36 Similitude map indicates the highest similarity to northern Poland's populations, which makes sense:

    https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm



    Eurogenes K36:

    Population
    Amerindian -
    Arabian -
    Armenian -
    Basque 2.13 Pct
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 7.1 Pct
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 2.4 Pct
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 26.58 Pct
    East_Med -
    Eastern_Euro 14 Pct
    Fennoscandian 11.2 Pct
    French 3.53 Pct
    Iberian -
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 10.81 Pct
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern -
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic 15.53 Pct
    North_Caucasian -
    North_Sea 6.72 Pct
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med -

    Eurogenes K13:

    Population
    North_Atlantic 35.41 Pct
    Baltic 44.76 Pct
    West_Med 10.62 Pct
    West_Asian 4.31 Pct
    East_Med 3.59 Pct
    Red_Sea 0.5 Pct
    South_Asian -
    East_Asian 0.22 Pct
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.13 Pct
    Oceanian 0.34 Pct
    Northeast_African 0.13 Pct
    Sub-Saharan -

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Polish 4.72
    2 South_Polish 5.81
    3 Southwest_Finnish 7.41
    4 Ukrainian 7.52
    5 Belorussian 7.53
    6 Russian_Smolensk 7.65
    7 Estonian_Polish 8.05
    8 Estonian 8.28
    9 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.39
    10 Southwest_Russian 9.66
    11 Finnish 9.75
    12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.06
    13 Lithuanian 10.65
    14 North_Swedish 12.01
    15 East_German 12.25
    16 Croatian 12.61
    17 East_Finnish 12.62
    18 Kargopol_Russian 12.67
    19 Hungarian 13.64
    20 Austrian 14.58

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 69% Lithuanian + 31% Southeast_English @ 2.13
    2 70.6% Lithuanian + 29.4% Southwest_English @ 2.31
    3 68.1% Lithuanian + 31.9% South_Dutch @ 2.35
    4 77.9% Belorussian + 22.1% Southwest_English @ 2.64
    5 67.7% Lithuanian + 32.3% West_German @ 2.65
    6 77% Belorussian + 23% Irish @ 2.72
    7 72.2% Estonian_Polish + 27.8% Norwegian @ 2.74
    8 75.3% Polish + 24.7% North_Swedish @ 2.75
    9 68.8% Lithuanian + 31.2% Orcadian @ 2.77
    10 77.7% Belorussian + 22.3% West_Scottish @ 2.79
    11 66.8% Lithuanian + 33.2% North_Dutch @ 2.79
    12 76.4% Belorussian + 23.6% Orcadian @ 2.81
    13 73.8% Belorussian + 26.2% Norwegian @ 2.83
    14 68.8% Estonian_Polish + 31.2% Swedish @ 2.83
    15 81.5% Polish + 18.5% Swedish @ 2.83
    16 84% Polish + 16% Norwegian @ 2.86
    17 74.8% Belorussian + 25.2% North_Dutch @ 2.86
    18 64.3% Lithuanian + 35.7% North_German @ 2.87
    19 76.9% Belorussian + 23.1% Southeast_English @ 2.89
    20 53.7% Lithuanian + 46.3% East_German @ 2.91

    Eurogenes K15:

    Population
    North_Sea 25.82 Pct
    Atlantic 18.64 Pct
    Baltic 28.34 Pct
    Eastern_Euro 18.25 Pct
    West_Med 6.7 Pct
    West_Asian 2.24 Pct
    East_Med -
    Red_Sea -
    South_Asian -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Polish 4.2
    2 South_Polish 5.18
    3 Ukrainian 5.85
    4 Estonian 6.29
    5 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.7
    6 Belorussian 7.77
    7 Russian_Smolensk 7.85
    8 Estonian_Polish 8.19
    9 Southwest_Russian 9.03
    10 Southwest_Finnish 9.45
    11 Finnish 9.62
    12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.63
    13 Lithuanian 10.04
    14 Croatian 11.23
    15 East_German 11.42
    16 Hungarian 11.51
    17 East_Finnish 11.8
    18 Kargopol_Russian 12.57
    19 Austrian 13.57
    20 Moldavian 13.88

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 69.6% Lithuanian + 30.4% Southwest_English @ 2.43
    2 71.6% Lithuanian + 28.4% Orcadian @ 2.95
    3 69.8% Lithuanian + 30.2% Southeast_English @ 2.96
    4 67.7% Lithuanian + 32.3% North_Dutch @ 2.97
    5 85.5% Polish + 14.5% Swedish @ 3
    6 66.4% Lithuanian + 33.6% Norwegian @ 3.01
    7 88% Polish + 12% West_Norwegian @ 3.04
    8 53.5% Lithuanian + 46.5% East_German @ 3.07
    9 69.7% Estonian_Polish + 30.3% Swedish @ 3.11
    10 87% Polish + 13% Norwegian @ 3.11
    11 75% Belorussian + 25% West_Norwegian @ 3.17
    12 68.2% Lithuanian + 31.8% West_German @ 3.17
    13 67.7% Lithuanian + 32.3% Danish @ 3.2
    14 69.1% Lithuanian + 30.9% West_Norwegian @ 3.2
    15 73.9% Estonian_Polish + 26.1% West_Norwegian @ 3.2
    16 72.8% Belorussian + 27.2% Norwegian @ 3.21
    17 71.1% Belorussian + 28.9% Swedish @ 3.24
    18 70.2% Lithuanian + 29.8% West_Scottish @ 3.24
    19 84.8% Polish + 15.2% North_Swedish @ 3.26
    20 67.7% Lithuanian + 32.3% South_Dutch @ 3.27

    Dodecad K12b:

    Population
    Gedrosia 3.39 Pct
    Siberian -
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 28.55 Pct
    North_European 57.13 Pct
    South_Asian -
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 0.93 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 10 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

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    His GEDmatch matches in "One-to-many DNA comparison" just became available, and his closest match is a Halfpap:

    https://nvk.genealogy.net/map/1890:Pollex,1890:Halfpap - clearly someone from the same sub-region of Pomerania

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    Mr. Halfpap (closest GEDmatch match of the Kluki Slovincian A sample) in Eurogenes K15:

    Kit EN9052569

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 27.22
    2 Baltic 24.49
    3 Atlantic 20.8
    4 Eastern_Euro 17.55
    5 West_Med 4.31
    6 West_Asian 3.39
    7 Southeast_Asian 1.24
    8 Sub-Saharan 0.73
    9 Oceanian 0.27

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Southwest_Finnish 6.33
    2 Polish 6.69
    3 South_Polish 7.23
    4 Finnish 7.69
    5 Estonian 8.19
    6 Ukrainian 8.62
    7 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.06
    8 East_German 9.34
    9 Russian_Smolensk 10.13
    10 Belorussian 10.61
    11 Hungarian 10.7
    12 Estonian_Polish 11.05
    13 East_Finnish 11.15
    14 Southwest_Russian 11.22
    15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.71
    16 North_Swedish 11.75
    17 Croatian 11.77
    18 Austrian 11.93
    19 La_Brana-1 11.98
    20 Lithuanian 13.45

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 63.6% Belorussian + 36.4% West_Norwegian @ 2.35
    2 56.7% Estonian_Polish + 43.3% Swedish @ 2.35
    3 62.6% Estonian_Polish + 37.4% West_Norwegian @ 2.41
    4 60.2% Belorussian + 39.8% Norwegian @ 2.42
    5 69.5% Polish + 30.5% Swedish @ 2.48
    6 66.6% Belorussian + 33.4% Orcadian @ 2.49
    7 55.1% Lithuanian + 44.9% Danish @ 2.5
    8 60.9% Lithuanian + 39.1% Orcadian @ 2.51
    9 64.8% Russian_Smolensk + 35.2% West_Norwegian @ 2.52
    10 74.4% Polish + 25.6% West_Norwegian @ 2.52
    11 57.8% Belorussian + 42.2% Swedish @ 2.53
    12 59% Russian_Smolensk + 41% Swedish @ 2.58
    13 61.7% Belorussian + 38.3% North_Dutch @ 2.59
    14 59.3% Estonian_Polish + 40.7% Norwegian @ 2.61
    15 71.8% Polish + 28.2% Norwegian @ 2.67
    16 61.2% Belorussian + 38.8% Danish @ 2.75
    17 60.7% Estonian_Polish + 39.3% North_Dutch @ 2.75
    18 61.5% Russian_Smolensk + 38.5% Norwegian @ 2.76
    19 55.7% Lithuanian + 44.3% North_Dutch @ 2.76
    20 65.2% Polish + 34.8% North_Swedish @ 2.77

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    I share a lot of segment with both of them, especially, with EN9052569, i wonder how is that?


    Comparing Kit - (stefano) [MyHeritage] and Kit EN9052569 (******** Halfpap) [23andMe]




    Segment threshold size will be adjusted dynamically between 200 and 400 SNPs
    Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 3.0 cM
    Largest segment = 6 cM


    Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 94.8cM (2.643 Pct)


    25 shared segments found for this comparison.
    Last edited by Stefano; 21-08-22 at 15:34.

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