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    IA Thracians very close to Old Greeks.

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    0.05400970 Italian_Tuscany
    0.05478629 Italian_Abruzzo

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    0.05828980 Greek_Izmir

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    1 E-V13 in an Ancient Macedonian site. Every single Thracian or Thracian-related sites are bearing E-V13, that's a no-brainer. Riverman's systematic approach and theory needs recognition.

    As for entertain, his E-V13 bias and hatred screams from his screen lmao. It's out of control.




    The Enchelei cremated their deaths on a pyre on a low-mound/tumuli like the Channeled-Ware, i doubt those samples are Enchelei. They must be some Matt-Painted Pottery descendands.
    There is no "EV-13" hatred, just using my brain. EV-13 showed up in Croatian Illyrian BC and Croatian Illyrian AD. It just wasn't a major lineage until recently.

    You desperately want "EV-13 bearers" to be some great, ancient civilization when the data is showing the opposite. Even in Greece it was in low % until recently. There are plenty of minor lineages in the Balkans: J1, J2a, T, G, etc... who could at any one point blow up due to founder effects. J2B2 is clearly a founder effect as well. It just happened earlier than EV-13.

    It's not matter of which or whom, it's a matter of when. The same thing that happened to J2B2, R1b-L51, etc... happened to EV-13, just at a later date. Not when you want it to. That's not how history works.

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    That old BGR_IA sample was based on 1 or 2 samples? If that is the case, it turned out to be representative for the Iron age population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuivamaa View Post
    There was no one “Greek” language during Alexander’s reign. Koine hadn’t developed yet, we were still in the era of Attic/Ionian, Doric, Aeolian etc. Pittacus was an aeolian speaker and according to Plato, gave Prodicus (Attic speaker) a hard time with his dialect to the point of calling Pittacus a barbarian. I don’t hear anyone doubting that Aeolians were Greek speakers. The same happens today. I am a native Greek speaker, exposed to northern modern Greek dialects (both my maternal grandparents spoke one) and yet I do not fully understand Kozanitika (a divergent nothern idiom). I need them to speak slowly and I will still have unknown vocabulary. That doesn’t mean they aren’t speaking Greek.
    If I'm not mistaken, Macedonian was most closely compared with Dorian, and even then Tsakonian today in Sparta is not mutually intelligible with Koine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1337_ View Post
    Northern Macedonia was never Ancient Macedonia except for when they conquered it AFAIK. It became Roman Dardania and Roman Macedonia during Roman period. Peonians were most likely of Illyrian stock given their location or Thrako-Illyrian.
    I think you need some geography lessons pal. The southern parts of Macedonia were clearly ancient Macedonian, and Paeonians don't seem any different genetically.

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    The IA Albanian samples in G25 are like Northern Italians not like Tuscans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enter_tain View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, Macedonian was most closely compared with Dorian, and even then Tsakonian today in Sparta is not mutually intelligible with Koine.
    I think the majority of scholars consider it part of the Doric group. As for Tsakonian, it isn’t truly mutually Intelligible with anything else. At least not from the non tsakonian point of view, but lest we forget, it isn’t ancient Doric but an evolution of it. The dialect isn’t something mystifying, I can perhaps understand 50% of the texts I find online as an SMG speaker, but I guess listening comprehension would be much harder.

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    I would like to apologize to everyone for the fact that I introduced political ideology to this forum. Forums of this type cannot be contaminated by politics, I am ashamed of what I did and I promise I will never repeat such an act again.

    Now, back to the topic of this forum: the papers that came out yesterday "The genetic history of the Southern Arc: A bridge between West Asia and Europe", according to the authors, the Proto-Indo-Anatolians are still a ghost population.
    For that reason, starting from the non-EHG ancestry of the Yamanya (which after all constitutes approximately 50% of their genome) I tried to create, very rudimentary, the ancestry graph of the referred ghost population (Proto-Indo-Anatolians).
    Do you agree?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olti27 View Post
    What bothers me the most is that after this results I'm afraid that the DNA analysis of the tomb of Vergina (Philip II & co) will be postponed for a long time. Really a mised opportunity to know more about a possible importan figure of antiquitie.
    It's sad because Philip built the first great European Empire. Look at those Macedonians. Literally fall on the Illyrian cluster.



    I'm not really trying to make some nationalist point here, because ancient Macedonians are a dead people. They in fact have no direct descendants. I just don't like this deference to everything in southern Balkans is Greek without question/without exception, while the meaning of the word "Greek" itself has changed countless times.

    Let's keep some nuance here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enter_tain View Post
    There are two main sets. One from northern....North Macedonia (mouthful), and one from southern/east of Ohrid.

    The east of Ohrid area is clearly ancient Macedonian territory and are pretty much identical to southern Illyrians.
    They are still not close to the three Macedonian cities/towns. The Macedonians were not a large tribe. Through alliances with neighboring tribes, conquests and intermarriage they expanded their territory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pashai Janinës View Post
    This is your personal interpretation. The historical fact is another and Demosthenes said it clearly:
    "...οὐ μόνον οὐχ Ἕλληνος ὄντος οὐδὲ προσήκοντος οὐδὲν τοῖς Ἕλλησιν, ἀλλ᾽ οὐδὲ βαρβάρου ἐντεῦθεν ὅθεν καλὸν εἰπεῖν, ἀλλ᾽ ὀλέθρου Μακεδόνος, ὅθεν οὐδ᾽ ἀνδράποδον σπουδαῖον οὐδὲν ἦν πρότερον πρίασθαι."
    "...he is not only no Greek, nor related to the Greeks, but not even a barbarian from any place that can be named with honour, but a pestilent knave from Macedonia, whence it was never yet possible to buy a decent slave."
    Demosthenes-Third Philippic 31
    Have you seen what far right Republicans say about the Democrats? Or William Jennigs Bryant say about his political opponents? Orators take a lot of liberties with the truth.

    My grandfather could not understand a Cretan peasant from Sfakia, yet both of them spoke dialects of Greek. That's what happens when people are isolated from each other for long periods of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ihype02 View Post
    Even the Thracians that lived there were probably more like BGR_IA than Tuscans. Greek Macedonians form a cline with Peloponnesians and the rest of Mainlanders.
    The Slavic YDNA is higher there than in most other parts of Greece and also the historical account tells us that Macedonia was more Slavized than Peloponnese.

    Ancient Macedonians and probably the Thracians were similar to Ancient Peloponnesians.
    If Thracians were also a yamnaya derived (some argued them to be catacomb descended) language group its possible they are also directly part of the Balkan IE group.

    Dardanian could have been part of an earlier branch with the the Daco-Thracian and Messapic (compare Albanian. Mëz, Thracian. Mezenai, Messapic. Menzana, Thracian. Dardapara, etc.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1337_ View Post
    Northern Macedonia was never Ancient Macedonia except for when they conquered it AFAIK. It became Roman Dardania and Roman Macedonia during Roman period. Peonians were most likely of Illyrian stock given their location or Thrako-Illyrian.
    Paeonians where of thracian origin speaking an ancient Greek Dialect............they where northern neighbours of the Macedonians and usually vassals of Macedonians..........they where south of the Dardanians who ere their "first cousins " , only the language was different

    The Katicic claim that they where Illyrian is a farce and the theory was used to confirm and establish a Yugoslavia and avoid any Greek or Bulgarian ( thracian ) issues
    Fathers mtdna ...... T2b17
    Grandfather paternal mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ...... K1a4p
    Mothers line ..... R1b-S8172
    Grandmother paternal side ... I1-CTS6397
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    Not sure. I was really convinced the Macedonians would be East Med like, but it seems at least one of the clusters is Illyrian shifted.
    Distance to: MKD_Anc:I10384 (Plaosnik)
    0.02929251 GRC_Logkas_MBA
    0.02966225 HUN_IA_Syrmian_SremGroup
    0.02979848 HRV_EIA
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    0.03135410 HRV_MBA
    0.03256036 HUN_LBA_EIA
    0.03365859 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
    0.03414459 HRV_IA
    0.03500342 HRV_Pop_CA
    0.03539854 HUN_La_Tene
    0.03651653 ITA_Rome_MA
    0.03660616 ITA_Etruscan
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    0.03807512 CZE_LBA_Knoviz_o3
    0.03893918 DEU_MA_Alemannic_o2
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    0.04057601 HUN_Avar_Late_South_Transdanubia
    0.04122927 HRV_EBA
    0.04151502 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
    0.04170639 Bell_Beaker_ITA
    0.04275350 HUN_IA_La_Tene_oEast
    0.04308453 SVN_EIA
    0.04356548 ITA_Daunian
    0.04458707 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA


    Distance to: MKD_Anc:I10381
    0.03839258 HRV_Pop_CA
    0.03879995 ITA_Daunian
    0.03910960 HUN_EIA
    0.03935094 HRV_IA
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    0.04139098 ITA_PoggioPelliccia_EMA
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    0.04421750 HUN_LBA_EIA
    0.04426863 ITA_Rome_MA
    0.04428579 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
    0.04461764 ITA_Etruscan_Tarquinia
    0.04461826 HUN_IA_La_Tene_oEast
    0.04467120 Bell_Beaker_ITA
    0.04475780 HRV_EIA
    0.04488080 GRC_Logkas_MBA
    0.04569188 MDA_Trypillia_Late
    0.04585042 ITA_Etruscan_Vetulonia
    0.04600907 ITA_Etruscan_Casenovole
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    0.04729424 ITA_Chiusi_EMA
    0.04766345 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
    0.04871249 HRV_MBA
    0.04957076 HUN_MA_Szolad_o1


    Distance to: MKD_Anc:I8112
    0.03293276 HRV_EIA
    0.03308349 HUN_IA_Syrmian_SremGroup
    0.03410440 HRV_MBA
    0.03614885 HRV_LIA_La_Tene
    0.03901582 HRV_Pop_CA
    0.04064844 SVN_MBA
    0.04071170 HRV_EBA
    0.04104504 HUN_La_Tene
    0.04123610 ITA_Rome_MA
    0.04187609 SRB_Mokrin_EBA_Maros_oAegean
    0.04244073 CZE_LBA_Knoviz_o3
    0.04330459 HUN_IA_La_Tene_oEast
    0.04353389 Bell_Beaker_ITA
    0.04399170 HUN_LBA_EIA
    0.04474989 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
    0.04481117 ITA_Etruscan
    0.04489164 ITA_Broion_BA
    0.04512332 GRC_Logkas_MBA
    0.04536297 HRV_IA
    0.04540018 SVN_EIA
    0.04551299 UKR_Cimmerian_o
    0.04573656 HUN_Avar_Late_South_Transdanubia
    0.04584424 Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE
    0.04595767 Scythian_MDA
    0.04597340 ITA_Daunian


    Meanwhile, the East Med cluster are outliers:


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    Quote Originally Posted by enter_tain View Post
    I think you need some geography lessons pal. The southern parts of Macedonia were clearly ancient Macedonian, and Paeonians don't seem any different genetically.
    The southern parts had some Greek population (so did Albania historically) . Thanks for telling me something I already knew. Some southern parts having a Greek population doesn't make Northern Macedonia = Ancient-Macedonian, mate.

    The Ancient Macedonian state never began there, except for some southern parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enter_tain View Post
    It's sad because Philip built the first great European Empire. Look at those Macedonians. Literally fall on the Illyrian cluster.



    I'm not really trying to make some nationalist point here, because ancient Macedonians are a dead people. They in fact have no direct descendants. I just don't like this deference to everything in southern Balkans is Greek without question/without exception, while the meaning of the word "Greek" itself has changed countless times.

    Let's keep some nuance here.
    Same way you claimed Southern Illyrians etc would be 100% like Greeks or cluster like Greeks because of some Albanians, you claimed they would be Myceanean like, now you're saying Ancient Macedonians are different and acting like you have been knowing this for years ? Yet we can see even some Illyrians in Northern Albania in fact do not cluster like Greeks.

    Let's also not forget these other exotic minorities such as the Caucasian and East Med / Levant shifted ones which could of produced more southern people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1337_ View Post
    now you're saying Ancient Macedonians are different and acting like you have been knowing this for years ?
    Learn to read. I literally made a chart about this



    I didn't say Illyrians = Myceneans. That's why I made a box/region. I said pre-Slavic (i.e. Iron Age Illyrians + Roman Imperial) Illyrians would plot close to Mycenaeans, i.e. classic southern Europeans.

    How close Greeks are to southern Illyrians/Albanians would depend with time/era. I've made it clear that even linguistically Proto-Illyrians and Proto-Greeks were different people.

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    I have always known that Albanians migrated to many parts of Albania and Epirus during the Middle Ages expect for Catholic Mountains (mostly Albanian toponyms) part where J2b peaks. I just thought people of Balkans were genetically identical so we would not be able to recognize the movement.
    Most R1b is probably Thracian too. The Illyrian component must be around 30% from paternal side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ihype02 View Post
    All I am saying is that those samples are not old Macedonians. Whenever the ancient Ancient Macedonians were similar to those samples I don't know. I would never guess it. But you never know.

    They seem to plot with Northern Italians in G25.
    Some interesting findings, looking through the Y DNA of the study. An Albanian is in the Y DNA branch of an ancient Greek from near Delphi of the Archaic period.

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/T-S27463/

    Other findings are that the two J-L70 branches from southwest Anatolia in the Middle Ages are below J-Z423, the branch of the late antiquity and medieval Roman samples that are downstream. This was in Mugla, a place that was settled or controlled by Carians and ancient Greeks. Turks, Greeks and Albanians are in this branch as well. Another interesting finding is J-L25 in Halicarnassus in ca 260 bc. That is a parent branch of L70.

    As for two Archaic age Macedonia samples from Orhid, they have a haplogroup that was in the Cyclades over 4,000 years ago, and in Croatia before that (J-Y13128).

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    Pre Slavic ancestors of Peloponnesians seem to be in between the Roman Atticans and Classical Greeks.


    Target: Greek_Peloponnese
    Distance: 0.9296% / 0.00929583
    37.6 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2
    32.4 GRC_Marathon_Rom
    30.0 Polish

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    Would you please explain to me what CHG means in this study?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ihype02 View Post
    Pre Slavic ancestors of Peloponnesians seem to be in between the Roman Atticans and Classical Greeks.


    Target: Greek_Peloponnese
    Distance: 0.9296% / 0.00929583
    37.6 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2
    32.4 GRC_Marathon_Rom
    30.0 Polish
    I found it interesting that in the body of the paper on Southern Europe, I think, Lazaridis alluded to the fact that the Athenians may indeed have had less steppe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Moja View Post
    Would you please explain to me what CHG means in this study?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasus_hunter-gatherer

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    The genetic history of the Southern Arc: scaled G25 coordinates produced by Davidski for 602 samples from the study: https://docs.google.com/file/d/1pRlu...iletype=msword

    Playing with all 602 samples and my kit (top 25)

    Distance to: Duarte_G25simulated_scaled
    0.04758205 HRV_IA:I5725
    0.05397811 HRV_Cetina_BA:I18747
    0.05561206 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18738
    0.05619766 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18413
    0.05681342 HRV_IA:I5723
    0.05707477 HRV_IA:I5726
    0.05802832 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18072
    0.05808964 HRV_IA:I5728
    0.05844353 HRV_BA:I18748
    0.05849401 HRV_IA:I5729
    0.05871673 HRV_BA:I5073
    0.05951358 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18727
    0.05962887 HRV_Anc:I18831
    0.05990183 HRV_BA:I5074
    0.05996837 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18724
    0.06058799 SRB_BA:I16803
    0.06069491 HRV_BA:I18712
    0.06083012 HRV_Cetina_BA:I18746
    0.06087041 SRB_BA:I17912
    0.06116966 ALB_Çinamak_Anc:I14690
    0.06226113 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18729
    0.06237297 BGR_Tell_Ezero_EBA:I19459
    0.06263422 HRV_Cetina_BA:I18745
    0.06265909 HRV_BA:I5080
    0.06265925 MNE_LBA:I13775

    Distance to: Duarte_G25simulated_scaled
    0.03495326 81.20% HRV_IA:I5725 + 18.80% TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_B:I8372
    0.03704231 82.00% HRV_IA:I5725 + 18.00% TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_B:I8369
    0.03717411 72.40% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18732 + 27.60% TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_B:I8372
    0.03810109 77.20% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18413 + 22.80% TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_B:I8372
    0.03891678 73.00% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18739 + 27.00% TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_B:I8372
    0.03995725 72.60% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18732 + 27.40% TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_B:I8369
    0.03996692 90.00% HRV_IA:I5725 + 10.00% ISR_Natufian_EpiP:I1072_d
    0.04020887 73.80% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18417 + 26.20% TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_B:I8369
    0.04063284 77.80% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18413 + 22.20% TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_B:I8369
    0.04079180 74.40% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18417 + 25.60% TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_B:I8372
    0.04082385 73.40% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA_brother.I18078.father.I18071:I1 8717 + 26.60% TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_B:I8372
    0.04119301 77.20% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18072 + 22.80% TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_B:I8372
    0.04127615 88.40% HRV_IA:I5725 + 11.60% JOR_PPNB:I1700
    0.04138120 76.40% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18727 + 23.60% TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_B:I8372
    0.04152426 75.80% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18724 + 24.20% TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_B:I8369
    0.04195557 73.80% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18730 + 26.20% TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_B:I8372
    0.04204491 89.00% HRV_IA:I5725 + 11.00% JOR_PPNB:I1414
    0.04214172 83.40% HRV_IA:I5725 + 16.60% TUR_Aegean_Muğla_Çapalıbağ_Mdv:I20327
    0.04220497 84.80% HRV_IA:I5725 + 15.20% TUR_Aegean_Muğla_Çapalıbağ_Mdv:I20322_d
    0.04238330 75.20% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18729 + 24.80% TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_B:I8372
    0.04260934 87.80% HRV_IA:I5725 + 12.20% TUR_Aegean_Bodrum_Halikarnassos_Anc2:I3303
    0.04265819 74.60% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18082 + 25.40% TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_B:I8372
    0.04279413 89.40% HRV_IA:I5725 + 10.60% JOR_PPNC_1d.rel.I1699:I1708
    0.04282862 73.60% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18739 + 26.40% TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_B:I8369
    0.04292738 74.40% HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18737 + 25.60% TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_B:I8372

    Target: Duarte_G25simulated_scaled
    Distance: 0.0315% / 0.03148512
    48.3 HRV_IA
    28.4 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA
    19.2 TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_B
    3.0 ROU_Ploieşti_Mdv
    1.1 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA_brother.I18078.father.I18071

    Post scriptum:
    Mixed mode Disaggregated. Labels by Er Monnezza
    Target: Duarte_G25simulated_scaled
    Distance: 0.0315% / 0.03148512
    48.3 HRV_IA:I5725___R-Y4355___BC_604___Coverage_54.10%
    19.2 TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_B:I8372___femal e___AD_385___Coverage_76.22%
    16.4 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18413___female___BC_1150___Cov erage_36.23%
    7.5 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18729___R-BY150850___BC_1150___Coverage_51.93%
    4.5 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA:I18417___R-L2___BC_1150___Coverage_62.66%
    3.0 ROU_Ploieşti_Mdv:I10495___G-Y12277___AD_1007___Coverage_67.83%
    1.1 HRV_Bezdanjača_BA_brother.I18078.father.I18071:I1 8717___R-L2___BC_1150___Coverage_45.18%



    Last edited by Duarte; 27-08-22 at 17:11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuvanè View Post
    I know but it seems they have considered Iran_N as just CHG in this study.

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