Autosomal DNA of Pontic Greeks

Kari said:
show me how pontic greeks have not like 2-4% turkish dna
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GEDMATCH already showed you that your samples are genetically Turkish, but you didn't present the population oracles in your original post, just the component breakdown thinking that we are too stupid to key in the values ourselves for the oracles.

I already linked you 2 real pontic greek component breakdowns, you can also check the average value of "Greek_Pontus" on gedmatch.

This is my final post on this matter, I do not appreciate subterfuge and lying. You have failed to provide any info whatsoever to support your claim, like the ancestral homeland of the samples.

The reason I exposed you is because I don't like lies surrounding pontic greeks, like, for example, that they are genetically East Asian, like your relative.

Your grandfather is probably an Urum, which would explain also the proximal high Baltic. Urums are a non-homogenous group of Christian Turks who also claim the pontic identity, but are different linguistically and ethno-culturally.
 
eupator said:
GEDMATCH already showed you that your samples are genetically Turkish, but you didn't present the population oracles in your original post, just the component breakdown thinking that we are too stupid to key in the values ourselves for the oracles.

I already linked you 2 real pontic greek component breakdowns, you can also check the average value of "Greek_Pontus" on gedmatch.

This is my final post on this matter, I do not appreciate subterfuge and lying. You have failed to provide any info whatsoever to support your claim, like the ancestral homeland of the samples.

The reason I exposed you is because I don't like lies surrounding pontic greeks, like, for example, that they are genetically East Asian, like your relative.

Your grandfather is probably an Urum, which would explain also the proximal high Baltic. Urums are a non-homogenous group of Christian Turks who also claim the pontic identity, but are different linguistically and ethno-culturally.
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1)no one of them were my grandfathers results
2)i really dont want to spread lies i am not a propagandist
3)how can i check the average value of Greek_Pontus on gedmatch?
 
Kari said:
Where i can find sources for k13?
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You can go to this website: Vahaduo: Admixture JS 22.05 and use the population list that you want (not just K13 but any) in SOURCE, then put the sample of interest in TARGET, so you can use the *distance* and *oracle* function.

The data you see next to each sample is the percentile of the calculator in the order that is used by the calculator, so for K13 the order would be: North_Atlantic, Baltic, West_Med, West_Asian, East_Med, Red_Sea, South_Asian, East_Asian, Siberian, Amerindian, Oceanian, Northeast_African, Sub-Saharan.

Now that I helped you that much, you can answer where did you find those Turkish samples you posted in the original post and answer the question of why did you do it? Did you think you wouldn't be caught in a lie?
 
eupator said:
You can go to this website: Vahaduo: Admixture JS 22.05 and use the population list that you want (not just K13 but any) in SOURCE, then put the sample of interest in TARGET, so you can use the *distance* and *oracle* function.

The data you see next to each sample is the percentile of the calculator in the order that is used by the calculator, so for K13 the order would be: North_Atlantic, Baltic, West_Med, West_Asian, East_Med, Red_Sea, South_Asian, East_Asian, Siberian, Amerindian, Oceanian, Northeast_African, Sub-Saharan.

Now that I helped you that much, you can answer where did you find those Turkish samples you posted in the original post and answer the question of why did you do it? Did you think you wouldn't be caught in a lie?
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i googled pontic greeks gedmatch and i found four.I didnt want to lie about Pontic Greeks.I just couldnt find how to test the East_Anatolia_&_South_Caucasus:Greek_Pontus,0.10885079,0.14131895,-0.055297684,-0.063495,-0.024814263,-0.018039737,0.0060606316,-0.0043965789,-0.037255579,-0.001477,0.0035982632,0.005553,-0.012534368,0.0070114211,-0.0096576316,-0.011514368,0.0053525789,-0.0012735263,-0.0016274211,0.0013955263,0.0031457895,0.0022257895,-0.0015567895,-0.0048198947,-0.00064915789 sample to admixture (k12b,k13)terms
 
eupator said:
You can go to this website: Vahaduo: Admixture JS 22.05 and use the population list that you want (not just K13 but any) in SOURCE, then put the sample of interest in TARGET, so you can use the *distance* and *oracle* function.

The data you see next to each sample is the percentile of the calculator in the order that is used by the calculator, so for K13 the order would be: North_Atlantic, Baltic, West_Med, West_Asian, East_Med, Red_Sea, South_Asian, East_Asian, Siberian, Amerindian, Oceanian, Northeast_African, Sub-Saharan.

Now that I helped you that much, you can answer where did you find those Turkish samples you posted in the original post and answer the question of why did you do it? Did you think you wouldn't be caught in a lie?
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is there a way to convert K13 to K36?
 
My results.. Akritas

My paternal Great grandfather came from Kars, with origins in Trapezunta and Argiroupolis.
My maternal Great grandmother and granfather came from Kars, with origins in Trapezunta and Argiroupolis.

Distance to:Akritas
5.09984313Greek_Central_Anatolia
11.26966725Alawite
12.08911494Greek_Pontus
12.95661221Cypriot_Turkish
13.18995451Assyrian_West
13.27035041Lebanese_Muslim
13.32749789Turkish_Eastcentral
13.37423643Turkish
13.74535194Turkish_Southeast
13.79300910Armenian
13.85018050Assyrian_North
13.85993506Greek_Islands
13.86116878Assyrian_South
14.17758442Turkish_Westcentral
14.29659750Turkish_East
14.36388875Jew_Caucasus
15.00869748Turkish_Central-Black_Sea
15.07230241Turkish_East-Black_Sea
16.21151134Turkish_South
16.40946983Mandaean
16.54003023Turkmen_Iraq
16.59282676Syrian
17.40609376Iraqi
17.54116302Azerbaijani_Turkey
18.16507363Azerbaijani_Azerbaijan



Target: Akritas
Distance: 2.8447% / 2.84470655

65.6Greek_Pontus
11.2Lebanese_Druze
10.8Jew_Ashkenazi
6.2Sardinian
6.0Basque_France
0.2Karitiana

Target: Akritas
Distance: 2.8447% / 2.84470655

65.6Greek_Pontus
11.2Lebanese_Druze
10.8Jew_Ashkenazi
6.2Sardinian
6.0Basque_France
0.2Karitiana
 
What does Greek_Central_Anatolian mean any way? Cappadocian? Underground hittite :)

Have some slack Im an amateur
 
Akritas said:
What does Greek_Central_Anatolian mean any way? Cappadocian? Underground hittite :)

Have some slack Im an amateur
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its cappadocian.Do you have k12b or k13 results or G25?
 
K13 results
 
Akritas said:
My results.. Akritas

My paternal Great grandfather came from Kars, with origins in Trapezunta and Argiroupolis.
My maternal Great grandmother and granfather came from Kars, with origins in Trapezunta and Argiroupolis.

Distance to:Akritas
5.09984313Greek_Central_Anatolia
11.26966725Alawite
12.08911494Greek_Pontus
12.95661221Cypriot_Turkish
13.18995451Assyrian_West
13.27035041Lebanese_Muslim
13.32749789Turkish_Eastcentral
13.37423643Turkish
13.74535194Turkish_Southeast
13.79300910Armenian
13.85018050Assyrian_North
13.85993506Greek_Islands
13.86116878Assyrian_South
14.17758442Turkish_Westcentral
14.29659750Turkish_East
14.36388875Jew_Caucasus
15.00869748Turkish_Central-Black_Sea
15.07230241Turkish_East-Black_Sea
16.21151134Turkish_South
16.40946983Mandaean
16.54003023Turkmen_Iraq
16.59282676Syrian
17.40609376Iraqi
17.54116302Azerbaijani_Turkey
18.16507363Azerbaijani_Azerbaijan


Target: Akritas
Distance: 2.8447% / 2.84470655
65.6Greek_Pontus
11.2Lebanese_Druze
10.8Jew_Ashkenazi
6.2Sardinian
6.0Basque_France
0.2Karitiana

Target: Akritas
Distance: 2.8447% / 2.84470655
65.6Greek_Pontus
11.2Lebanese_Druze
10.8Jew_Ashkenazi
6.2Sardinian
6.0Basque_France
0.2Karitiana
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How you made these results?
 
The values??
 

Population
North_Atlantic9.29 Pct
Baltic2.46 Pct
West_Med19.06 Pct
West_Asian28.66 Pct
East_Med36.1 Pct
Red_Sea2.37 Pct
South_Asian0.27 Pct
East_Asian0.93 Pct
Siberian-
Amerindian0.77 Pct
Oceanian0.11 Pct
Northeast_African-
Sub-Saharan-




 
Akritas,9.29,2.46,19.06,28.66,36.10,2.37,0.27,0.93,0,0.77,0.11,0,0
 
Akritas said:
Population
North_Atlantic9.29 Pct
Baltic2.46 Pct
West_Med19.06 Pct
West_Asian28.66 Pct
East_Med36.1 Pct
Red_Sea2.37 Pct
South_Asian0.27 Pct
East_Asian0.93 Pct
Siberian-
Amerindian0.77 Pct
Oceanian0.11 Pct
Northeast_African-
Sub-Saharan-
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I can see that you have a lot of asian ancestry and only 1% turkish.You are more european than a pontic greek.You have higher North_Atlantic than a pontic greek 9,3%-2,3%.So you are a mix of pontic greeks and mainland greeks (like 65% pontic greek-cappadocian and 35% mainland greek)
 
Akritas said:
Akritas,9.29,2.46,19.06,28.66,36.10,2.37,0.27,0.93,0,0.77,0.11,0,0
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You can find on google how to make your g25 coordinates.Then i will show you how to use vahaduo.
 
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