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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    ok not typical (common) in iberia
    but this look does exist there
    he doesnt look levantine and also not turkish
    thats for sure
    Totally agree with your last comment here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    ok not typical (common) in iberia
    but this look does exist there
    he doesnt look levantine and also not turkish
    thats for sure
    I agree with you, particularly your second line

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    Oups, repetition! Too old... Sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    ok not typical (common) in iberia
    but this look does exist there
    he doesnt look levantine and also not turkish
    thats for sure
    You're right. I also think he could pass as a Southern European, specifically Spaniard.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MOESAN View Post
    I agree with you, particularly your second line
    Last thing i want to clarify i have no problem with levantine
    Look ( me myself have those features)
    Just what can i do ben shapiro doesn't
    Look levantine thats the way goes
    Direct paternal line : mizrahi from damascus
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    Jon (Leibowitz) Stewart may also be R1b as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by real expert View Post
    You're right. I also think he could pass as a Southern European, specifically Spaniard.



    He could pass but is not among the most common types of Iberia IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    Last thing i want to clarify i have no problem with levantine
    Look ( me myself have those features)
    Just what can i do ben shapiro doesn't
    Look levantine thats the way goes
    Never suspected you had problems like that.
    It's a pity that nowaday we are or feel we are obliged to affirm we are not racists or have not emity against some people every time we are speaking about phenotypes or even history...

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    Slight but noticeable resemblance to Bolsonaro. With that in mind, I could see him fitting in Iberia.
    Most specific Ydna: R-Z44>CTS8949

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robotnick View Post
    Slight but noticeable resemblance to Bolsonaro. With that in mind, I could see him fitting in Iberia.
    Yes, Bolsonaro, a lame duck in Brazilian style

    An old pic of him at the hospital waiting for a surgery that does not occurred.



    PS - About Bolsonaro genealogy in the Portuguese Wikipedia:

    “Bolsonaro is descended from Italian and German immigrants, probably with more remote Portuguese origins as well. On his mother's side, Bolsonaro has complete Italian ancestry, and his grandparents were born in the city of Luca, in Tuscany. On his father's side, he is the great-grandson of Italians from Veneto and Calabria, and also has a great-grandfather from Hamburg, Germany. The original spelling of the surname was Bolzonaro. According to a statement by Jair Bolsonaro himself, his great-grandfather was German and was a soldier in Adolf Hitler's Wehrmacht during World War II: "He had no option: either he was a soldier, or he was to the wall to be shot” he declared. However, according to the genealogy presented, Carl Hintze, Bolsonaro's great-grandfather, was born in Germany around 1876 and arrived in Brazil as a child in 1883, five decades before the start of the Second War in Europe. So, he was 54 years old when Hitler arrived. to power, and 69 years old at the end of World War II, without any evidence that he left Brazil during this period. His German great-grandfather died in in the city of Campinas on March 16, 1969”.

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    Thanks, Duarte.

    So, basically Italian in terms of ancestry. I would have known in an instant he was of an Italian ancestry

    Couldn't deny this face even if I wanted to.






    One of our Ligurian politicians:


    Lots of these types in Italy.
    Giuseppe Conte





    In fact, it's as if we've had mostly Alpine Prime Ministers:

    Berlusconi:




    Matteo Renzi:


    French ones don't look much different:



    Look up the Austrian Tyrol; they're all over the place. The one on the left I would have guessed Italian.


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    Another one came to mind, this one from the south. He was one of my mother's favorite singers.

    Perry Como: He was the King of Christmas for a long time, like Michael Buble today, and also just completely wholesome, devout, a wonderful family man.





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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPREEEEEME View Post
    Got a source or any other details?
    Quote Originally Posted by saraman View Post
    One of his relatives told me. It showed him in his relative list.
    Quote Originally Posted by SUPREEEEEME View Post
    How do you know that it is the Ben Shapiro and not just a Ben Shapiro. For example, I've just search through my AncestryDNA matches, and there are several Ben Shapiro's.
    Ben Shapiro posted in 2018 that 23andme placed him as 100% Ashkenazi Jewish. :)
    https://twitter.com/benshapiro/statu...958976?lang=en

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    Quote Originally Posted by saraman View Post
    Specifically R-L23
    via his 23andMe result
    L23 is a early Bronze Age Haplogroup.
    Ben Shapiro must have a rare subclade. :)
    3ED2031B-F80E-4E5D-82C0-256F1859FC8C.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by traveller View Post
    Here’s an article studying Jewish R1 subclades.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...kenazi_Levites

    The R1b clades are positive Z2105+ which is Yamnaya and Catacomb and Corded Ware R-M12149, not very Semitic to say the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eupator View Post
    The R1b clades are positive Z2105+ which is Yamnaya and Catacomb and Corded Ware R-M12149, not very Semitic to say the least.
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-M12149/

    https://discover.familytreedna.com/y...2149/frequency

    There is a big number Fertile Crescent people, as well as Saudi Arabia and Yemen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by traveller View Post
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-M12149/

    https://discover.familytreedna.com/y...2149/frequency

    There is a big number Fertile Crescent people, as well as Saudi Arabia and Yemen.

    Yamnaya males surely did manage to spread their lineages around, didn't they.

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    This article specifies well Bolsonaro's ancestry:
    "Taddone reveals the genealogy of Bolsonaro: 13 out of 16 2nd great-grandparents of the candidate are Italians from Tuscany, Veneto and Calabria"
    https://www.insieme.com.br/pb/taddone-revela-genealogia-de-bolsonaro/

    More specifically, 1/2 Tuscan , 1/4 Venetian, 1/8 Hamburger, 1/16 Calabrian and 1/16 Brazilian.

    His maternal grandparents were both from Lucca. The father of his paternal grandfather, Bolzonaro, was from Anguillara Veneta-PD; the mother was from Masi-PD.

    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    One of our Ligurian politicians:
    Wow. Rixi does look like Bolsonaro.
    Last edited by Regio X; 25-11-22 at 20:11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mmiikkii View Post
    And the maternal haplogroup???
    I will guess is a K.
    Also, where's thw video, isn't in YouTube
    Wouldn't there be a 67 percent chance that he isn't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by real expert View Post
    You're right. I also think he could pass as a Southern European, specifically Spaniard.



    He does look a lot different from say these Yemenite Jews, who are probably genetically the closest to the original Jews (i.e. more Natufian-admixed):



    Naturally, that is expected, considering European Jews have a lot of Southern European DNA since they arrived as diaspora.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    He does look a lot different from say these Yemenite Jews, who are probably genetically the closest to the original Jews (i.e. more Natufian-admixed):



    Naturally, that is expected, considering European Jews have a lot of Southern European DNA since they arrived as diaspora.
    I am curious about Ben's Scorsese eyebrows as I have them as well.

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