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    L3f1b-C

    Did my mtdna with family tree , i got
    Mtdna haplogroup : L3f1b-C16292T
    Y haplogroup : E-M35

    Country of origin Eritrea 🇪🇷 , cushite tribe.
    Also have a lot of jewish markers like E-B405. (1) E-Y14891; (2) E-Y6923; (3) the E-BY932 subcluster of E-PF1975; (4) E-BY7450; and (6) E-BY11082.

    Info from here, I'm positive for all of it. What's your take on it fellas
    Ashkenazi Y-DNA Haplogroup E
    Based upon the methodology posted here and using the sample set described here, as of January 2019 it appears that there are six ancestral Y-DNA lines in haplogroup E in the Ashkenazi Jewish population: (1) E-Y14891; (2) E-Y6923; (3) the E-BY932 subcluster of E-PF1975; (4) E-BY7450; (5) E-Z17697; and (6) E-BY11082. Trees for each of those clusters are posted below.

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    Rare e-fgc7391 972AD
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    you need to do big y test ( i know it is expensive) to find
    Your real branch downstream of e-m35
    Eritrean e-m35 clades are usually:
    E-v32 , e-v1515
    And yes there are also some e-m34
    A branch more common in ethiopia
    Direct paternal line : mizrahi from damascus
    e-fgc7391
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-FGC7391/

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    Yes when I did my ftdna it was for big y700 , now they only finished y111 so they gave me haplogroup and matches at that level . They still working on it.

    My haplogroup is E-M35
    Downstream
    E-V68 & E-Z827

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masta305 View Post
    Yes when I did my ftdna it was for big y700 , now they only finished y111 so they gave me haplogroup and matches at that level . They still working on it
    great
    will be interesting to know what will be your result (terminal snp)


    could be here :
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-V32/

    or here :
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-CTS10880/


    p.s
    they also have some e-v22 in specific groups like the saho
    Last edited by kingjohn; 10-10-22 at 19:38.

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    I have all 3 listed as down stream .. in blue dot. Instead of grey and negative sign. So im positive to e-v22 , e-v32 , E-cts10880

    I searched all three and they are listed as downstream in blue not grey negative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masta305 View Post
    I have all 3 listed as down stream .. in blue dot. Instead of grey and negative sign. So im positive to e-v22 , e-v32 , E-cts10880
    I searched all three and they are listed as downstream in blue not grey negative.

    patience is the key word here
    you just have to wait few more weeks
    in the end you will have your confirmed haplogroup
    in the meantime you can put your 111 str markers
    that you already have in nevgen predictor
    https://www.nevgen.org/
    that can give you generally speaking the direction on which specific branch downstram of e-m35
    you belong to

    but you will have to wait for the big-y final results for you terminal snp
    last thing afcorse you should join the e3b project
    https://www.familytreedna.com/groups...out/background

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    Confirmed, E-Y143811

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masta305 View Post
    Confirmed, E-Y143811
    fascinating so you are indeed e-m34
    even e-m84
    and also under e-y5435
    big chances some time in history your
    ancestors arrived from arabia to eritrea
    cool results
    congratulation
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Y143811/


    p.s
    while indeed most branches inside e-y5435: look arabian, levantine , and mesopotamian in geographical distribution
    important to mention that there is also a very european branch inside e-y5435
    that looks mainly like a slavic one

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Y129270/

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    Big y700 not finished , reason I got confirmed haplogroup is because I ordered snp .
    I only got this confirmed because I ordered SNP from my branch.
    B405 Completed 1341
    V68 Completed 1342
    Y6923 Completed 1342
    Z827 Completed 1342
    PANEL 6 (112 - 561)
    Awaiting Lab Results
    PANEL 7 (561+)
    Awaiting Lab Results


    So this my get more down the branch or change once y700 STR is Completed ... I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masta305 View Post
    Big y700 not finished , reason I got confirmed haplogroup is because I ordered snp .
    I only got this confirmed because I ordered SNP from my branch.
    B405 Completed 1341
    V68 Completed 1342
    Y6923 Completed 1342
    Z827 Completed 1342
    PANEL 6 (112 - 561)
    Awaiting Lab Results
    PANEL 7 (561+)
    Awaiting Lab Results
    So this my get more down the branch or change once y700 STR is Completed ... I guess.
    ok so you should wait for final results
    anyway very cool results :)
    later on you should have a bam file from ftdna it cost money
    to download it

    https://dnaandfamilytreeresearch.blo...big-y-700.html

    but than you can upload the bam file to yfull
    https://www.yfull.com/

    p.s
    you can also download a ftdna vcf file of the bam when your results
    are finished
    that doesn't cost and yfull except an upload of this vcf file for some money

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    From e-35 I branch off from E-Z827

    Where as e-y5435 they are e-35 > e-v68

    I'm e-m35 > E-Z827

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    Ok I will definitely do that.. thanks for your help and support. Appreciate it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masta305 View Post
    From e-35 I branch off from E-Z827
    Where as e-y5435 they are e-35 > e-v68
    I'm e-m35 > E-Z827
    no e-y5435 is a descendnet of e-z827
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Y5435/
    e-z827 is the common ancestor of e-z830 and e-L19
    in other words you and me are more closer to e-m81 ( e-L19 downstram) than to e-m78
    which is a descendents from e-v68

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    Yes you are right, I had a second look at it. I confused it with e-by5435.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masta305 View Post
    Yes you are right, I had a second look at it. I confused it with e-by5435.
    What's your haplogroup snp


    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-FGC7391/


    this is a rare mizrahi branch
    my direct paternal line was a mizrahi jew from damascus syria
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    That's pretty cool. I'm gonna research that line.

    My big y700 is complete. My Y haplogroup is the same

    E-Y143811

    And I match with a person who is from a similar tribe called asawerta who are related to my saho tribe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masta305 View Post
    That's pretty cool. I'm gonna research that line.
    My big y700 is complete. My Y haplogroup is the same
    E-Y143811
    And I match with a person who is from a similar tribe called asawerta who are related to my saho tribe
    Great
    Now you should upload your vcf file or bam
    File from ftdna to yfull
    Would be interesting to see your tmrca with those saudis

    P.s
    I still think it is an option there was some back migration from arabia that brought not only j1 to east africa but also some branches of e1b1b1

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    Yea I believe that too.m it's back migration.. some recent around 1k years ago some over 3k years .

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    I uploaded my 23andme dna to gedmatch , kit DR1722769

    Used archaic dna matches. I share some dna
    with ancient Ireland, Ballynahatty, 3.2ky cal BCE at 4 cm upper segment.

    Can someone run a gedmatch on my kit tell me their opinion using archaic dna analyser

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