British late Paleolithic ancestry is dual

[Mmiikkii]

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-022-01883-z

Check this new study about the end of the LGM in England/Wales.

Summary: haplogroup U8 individual had ancestry from the sample GoyetQ2, a Magdalenian sample.

While some 1000 years later another U5a human appears with Villabruna ancestry.
Interesting, I never knew that WHG ancestry is just Villabruna.

 

[kingjohn]

the male from the kendrick's cave belong unsurprisingly to haplogroup I-M170
https://www.theytree.com/sample/aa349c81a0c89f094449d77efd115db4.html

https://www.theytree.com/tree/I-M423

The other male from goughs cave was probably r1b
https://www.theytree.com/sample/be7d16079287f562bb1f49b7287780d2.html

 

[Mmiikkii]

The other male from goughs cave was probably r1b

Rare R1b in the Paleolithic/Mesolithic but in a GoyetQ2 sample, rather than in Villabruna.
Seems they got in minority numbers and sneaked into Europe from some unknown source. Then into the different populations.

I say this because the coming of R1b into Europe is just a big leap, there's no gradual spatio-temporal sequence of samples from Western Siberia to Western Europe.

 

[bicicleur 2]

The other male from goughs cave was probably r1b
https://www.theytree.com/sample/be7d16079287f562bb1f49b7287780d2.html

this is not possible
R1b-P310 is only 5700 years old

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-L52/

 

[kingjohn]

this is not possible
R1b-P310 is only 5700 years old
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-L52/

Ok
So it is a mistake
Of theytree site anlaysis

P.s
But the i-m170 individual is real
I also so someone anlaysed his( kendricks cave )bam file in anthrogenica

 

[eupator]

How is it a mistake?

R-P312 (age: 4824 ybp) Formula: (4759*14178 + 4529*3369270 + 4533*4185450 + 4893*381054 + 5240*5585604 + 3884*75408 + 4529*9454...)/(14178 + 3369270 + 4185450 + 381054 + 5585604 + 75408 + 9454 + 394740 + 23620 + 154968 + 37768 + 4728 + 4728 + 4728 + 4728 + 4728)

 

[MOESAN]

How is it a mistake?

R-P312 (age: 4824 ybp) Formula: (4759*14178 + 4529*3369270 + 4533*4185450 + 4893*381054 + 5240*5585604 + 3884*75408 + 4529*9454...)/(14178 + 3369270 + 4185450 + 381054 + 5585604 + 75408 + 9454 + 394740 + 23620 + 154968 + 37768 + 4728 + 4728 + 4728 + 4728 + 4728)

Sorry, what 's your point here?