Genomic sequence data from Neolithic and Epipaleolithic individuals from NW Africa.

PaleoRevenge said:
The autosomal readings are normal, that does not mean the dates are correct. I threw the scaled coordinates into a neolithic model I made for southern half of Europe and the reads clean, the fit is not great. Whoever these R1b people are, whether modern or ancient, they are autosomally locals.

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According to an AG user at least the sample oub002 is contaminated and probably a female. I don’t know about the other two though.
 
Palermo Trapani said:
So if I have it correctly, you were able to estimate coordinates on these samples? IS this Dodecad12B, Euro K13, G25, etc?


Thanks for the work.
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The coordinates were posted in AG a week ago. Someone emailed Davidski. They score zero Corded or Yamnaya and pick up mostly local neolithic ancestry. The time frame is still questionable if any of those R1b are L-151, but they are locals in admixture.

Code: 
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zz:ktg001,0.003,0.0148,0.0034,-0.0238,0.0331,-0.0061,-0.0059,0.0006,0.0213,0.0359,-0.0195,0.0193,-0.0335,-0.0363,0.007,0.006,0.0131,-0.0049,0.0189,0.0127,-0.008,-0.0023,-0.0169,-0.0005,0.0302
zz:ktg004,0.0082,0.0166,0.007,-0.0243,0.0227,-0.015,-0.0079,-0.0006,0.0358,0.0513,0.0026,0.0101,-0.018,-0.0155,-0.0117,-0.0005,0.0184,-0.004,-0.0147,-0.0024,-0.0081,-0.0091,0,-0.0109,-0.0045
zz:ktg005,0.0029,0.0156,0.0057,-0.0218,0.0208,-0.0166,-0.011,0.0035,0.0452,0.0438,0.0046,0.0004,0.0052,-0.0135,0.0044,-0.0089,0.009,-0.0077,-0.0296,0.0045,-0.0132,-0.0276,0.0102,-0.0219,0.0059
zz:ktg006,0.0068,0.0167,0.0068,-0.0193,0.0241,-0.0125,-0.0069,0.0003,0.0392,0.049,0.0016,0.0032,-0.0137,-0.0135,-0.0047,-0.0038,0.0165,-0.0031,-0.0143,0.004,-0.006,-0.0106,0.0052,-0.0161,0.0055
zz:oub002,-0.0166,0.0095,-0.0071,-0.0305,0.0091,-0.0216,-0.029,0.0099,0.0804,-0.0014,0.0109,-0.0171,0.0594,-0.0316,0.056,-0.039,-0.0055,-0.0573,-0.1212,0.0377,-0.034,-0.1126,0.0703,-0.0126,0.0175
zz:skh001,0.0016,0.0147,-0.0071,-0.0367,0.011,-0.0228,-0.0119,-0.0017,0.0495,0.0073,0.0097,-0.017,0.0301,-0.0131,0.0116,0.005,0.0076,-0.0153,-0.0259,0.0237,-0.0036,-0.0145,0.0131,-0.006,-0.0025
zz:skh002,-0.0007,0.0147,-0.0096,-0.0378,0.0107,-0.0187,-0.0141,-0.0043,0.0567,0.0062,0.0066,-0.0166,0.0331,-0.0085,0.0113,-0.0006,0.0016,-0.0176,-0.03,0.0142,-0.0073,-0.0283,0.0108,-0.0067,0.0029
zz:skh003,-0.0023,0.0136,-0.0015,-0.0294,0.0163,-0.0183,-0.0083,0.0036,0.0506,0.0009,0.0025,-0.0098,0.0342,-0.01,0.0103,-0.001,-0.0029,-0.0197,-0.0316,0.0307,-0.0043,-0.0227,0.0102,-0.0212,-0.0038


Scaled

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zz:ktg001,0.034147,0.150298,0.012822,-0.076874,0.101865,-0.017012,-0.013866,0.001385,0.043564,0.065423,-0.031666,0.028924,-0.049801,-0.049957,0.0095,0.007955,0.01708,-0.006208,0.023757,0.015883,-0.009982,-0.002844,-0.020829,-0.000602,0.036164
zz:ktg004,0.093335,0.168578,0.026398,-0.078489,0.069859,-0.041834,-0.018566,-0.001385,0.07322,0.093487,0.004222,0.015137,-0.026759,-0.021332,-0.015879,-0.000663,0.023991,-0.005068,-0.018478,-0.003001,-0.010107,-0.011252,0,-0.013134,-0.005389
zz:ktg005,0.033009,0.158423,0.021496,-0.070414,0.064012,-0.046296,-0.025851,0.008077,0.092445,0.079819,0.00747,0.000599,0.00773,-0.018579,0.005972,-0.0118,0.011735,-0.009755,-0.037207,0.005628,-0.016471,-0.034128,0.012571,-0.026389,0.007065
zz:ktg006,0.0774,0.169593,0.025644,-0.062339,0.074168,-0.034861,-0.016216,0.000692,0.080173,0.089296,0.002598,0.004796,-0.020367,-0.018579,-0.006379,-0.005038,0.021513,-0.003927,-0.017975,0.005002,-0.007487,-0.013107,0.006409,-0.0194,0.006586
zz:oub002,-0.188946,0.096475,-0.026776,-0.098515,0.028005,-0.06024,-0.068153,0.022845,0.164437,-0.002551,0.0177,-0.025627,0.088304,-0.043489,0.076003,-0.05171,-0.007171,-0.072593,-0.152346,0.047148,-0.042425,-0.139233,0.086643,-0.015183,0.020956
zz:skh001,0.018212,0.149283,-0.026776,-0.118542,0.033852,-0.063587,-0.027966,-0.003923,0.101239,0.013303,0.015752,-0.025477,0.044747,-0.018029,0.015744,0.006629,0.009909,-0.019383,-0.032556,0.029639,-0.004492,-0.01793,0.016145,-0.00723,-0.002994
zz:skh002,-0.007968,0.149283,-0.036204,-0.122095,0.032929,-0.052153,-0.033136,-0.009923,0.115965,0.011299,0.010718,-0.024878,0.049207,-0.011698,0.015336,-0.000796,0.002086,-0.022297,-0.037709,0.017759,-0.009109,-0.034994,0.013311,-0.008073,0.003473
zz:skh003,-0.026179,0.138112,-0.005657,-0.094962,0.050163,-0.051037,-0.019506,0.008307,0.103489,0.00164,0.00406,-0.014687,0.050842,-0.013762,0.013979,-0.001326,-0.003781,-0.024958,-0.039721,0.038393,-0.005366,-0.028069,0.012571,-0.025546,-0.00455
 
PaleoRevenge: Ok thanks for letting me know where the coordinates came from. This is I am quite certain G25, correct?
 
PaleoRevenge said:
Correct, G25s, if they were not G25s, the test I ran would been complete gibberish.
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So to be clear, we are talking about G25 Simulated (i.e. G25s). I ran your coordinates against the published ancient North African samples that have coordinates in G25 and get some close results with several of them. I didn't do enough digging but some are not so close but I would expect that would be the older Taforalt samples, may take a look in more detail when I am home.

Thanks again.
 
Palermo Trapani said:
So to be clear, we are talking about G25 Simulated (i.e. G25s). I ran your coordinates against the published ancient North African samples that have coordinates in G25 and get some close results with several of them. I didn't do enough digging but some are not so close but I would expect that would be the older Taforalt samples, may take a look in more detail when I am home.

Thanks again.
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These are real G25s from Eurogenes, someone sent a request to Daviski when the raw data became available. He is pretty fast, within 3 days of the data getting published the G25s become available.
 
Ok, got it. Thanks
 
Well, then, we should take the information as absolutely accurate! :)
 
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