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The Lazarus Heart
I find myself agreeing with TwistedMac, even though that makes no sense.
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cicatriz esp said:There's nothing worse than those idiots that say suicide is cowardly. To me, it takes more courage to end it than to go on in a huge amount of pain. The status quo is easy, change is difficult.
If there's truly no hope of ever feeling better, why not end it? It seems foolish to just go on enduring like some stupid 3 legged mangy dog that doesn't know any better. And if anyone says "oMg it caN aLwaYs get bEtter!!1", i'll scream. If anyone can make such a difficult and final decision, they have my utter respect.
michi said:everyone's basically pointed out what i want to say. that suicide is selfish, idiotic, etcetcetc.
also, i think suicide totally degrades the beauty of life.
Please describe to me this beauty of life.michi said:also, i think suicide totally degrades the beauty of life.
I think it is less a matter of fulfilling honor than it is to avoid shame and humiliation. The traditional form of "belly cuts" is also a difficult death to perform with grace, so it was looked upon by peers as an honorable way to "exit, stage right" when the time warranted it (in the eyes of the beholder, gang).mad pierrot said:Seppuku, harakiri? (sp?)
Is it odd to kill yourself for "honor"? Japanese students seem to like the idea, it would seem. Wouldn't it be more honorable to live and make up for any mistakes? On the other hand, the tale of the 47 ronin is certainly something else...
Mycernius said:There is a lot of negative post on this thread about people who have or have tried to commit suicide. I think a little knowledge on the problem would help. I can remember doing suicide in psychology. Our tutor wasn't just telling us about it, she had at one point attempted suicide. The only reason she survived was because of a nosey neighbour.
Suicide in a lot of cases is caused by psychosis. Normally it starts out as depression. Depression is a neurosis that can be treated. People who are neurotic do know that there is something wrong with them. Unfortunaltly in some cases the depression becomes so bad that it becomes a psychosis. This is when they do not realise that they have a problem. The rational part of the brain switches off. It become totally logical to them to commit suicide. Our tutor told us that when she contemplated it she actually went through how to do it in a cold logical way, what was best, what might fail etc. You can talk to these people, but you cannot really get through to them. It does, after all, make perfect sense to them. Only if they are found in time can proper professional help be given to them. So saying these people are weak and selfish is incorrect, it's just that no-one got to them in time to prevent this.
I hate bullies. Suffered from it at school myself. Never went that far though. Thanks for sharing your life problems. It seem you have got better because deep down your stubborn enough to carry on. Good for beating them. I've never forgiven those people (I could say worse) and I don't think I ever can. My only enjoyment was meeting one of them later in like. He couldn't face me, mainly because I was taller and bigger than him rather than the other way round, as it was at school. Didn't have his pack of adoring fans with him as well. Its amazing how bullies deflate when they haven't got their friends with themDoc said:I remember staring at the gun thinking of how easy it is to pull the trigger. I would be gone, little mess, no one to stop me, and that would be that. Humans learn to move on when a person dies, so naturally I figured I would be nothing more than a fading memory to most people. Not only that, but the ones who push me so far into to wanting to committ the act I knew surely wouldn't have given a damn whether I died or not. The way I saw it, nobody would miss me, plus I would be happier just to end it all now then live my entire life in misery. I had it all planned out, ready to finally act until one day when I went to see my physican.
My physican told me that I was slowly killing myself physically. He told me that if I didn't I would be dead before I was 20. He basically said I was dying a slow painful death. That made me realize something that day. Why was I dying a slow painful death? That's right, because the assholes at school were pushing me in that direction. Most of them wanted me to die out of pure cruelty. It was then that I decided to change my life around to get back at the assholes in society, and to live my life the way I want to. Pissed them off to no end either when they realized they couldn't get to me anymore. I never got help either from contemplating attempting, and following through to a certain extent with suicide. I just helped myself instead.
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