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    Hate is a big thing, and I don't really Hate things, because for everything there should be an explanation so why hate a person who steals bread, while he lost his job, wife bla bla * extreme I know*... I am not the one to judge him because I don't know anything about him for the rest, I think when you steal your life is already hard enough, so why should I hate a person who is having a harder live then I am having..
    so I think for many things there are some explanations, you can get angry about it yeah, but Hating... I think this will only goes when somebody got killed, and you are being influanced deeply in it yourself.
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    Hate is something to hate. Love is something to love. Anger is something that is walks in front of the TV when you're watching it....or...when your driving and for some reason your middle finger wants to say something to the other drivers.

    Hate is just a big waste of time. Love and Lovin takes a lot of time. Anger is something that your fist loves expressing, which is a medium of time, because I love to be angry. (^_^)

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    Hate is a very powerfull emotion and if you channel it properly it can be a huge motivation.
    I like hate just as much as I like love or whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moffeltoff
    Hate is a very powerfull emotion and if you channel it properly it can be a huge motivation.
    I like hate just as much as I like love or whatever.
    Not to mention, it can lead to the dark side of the force...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik
    Not to mention, it can lead to the dark side of the force...
    :P no but seriously ,why should hate be a bad thing if it makes you much more mitvated?

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    I agree moffeltoff. It can turn into motivation. But as long as it's not too emotion based, because it could be a distraction.

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    Well I always do better if I have a person ,who is woth beeing beat.

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    Amen. A much bigger incentive to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich303
    Sometimes anger is good, but I'm not sure about hate.
    Do you hate evil?

    How about injustice?

    Violence?

    Do you hate hate?

    There's a use right there--by hating something we build a psychological aversion that helps steer us away from it. For example: If you hate child molesters you're not likely to feel a kid up--but if you don't hate them then that's one less barrier on the road to becoming one. Also, you're more willing to be around someone that you don't hate, so hating people that do things like kill or rape or try to convert you to their religion helps protect you from them.

    Hate exists to clearly identify things we really don't like and help us steer clear of them.
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    Anger rooted in compassion, as in yelling 'stop you idiot' to someone about to do something very harmful to themselves, seems justified.

    Hate for others doesn't seem at all justified. It is to attach extreme negative feelings to one who most probably doesn't deserve the hate. It is a muddled picture, bseides just being plain unfun to feel extreme anger or contempt towards another. At least I can think of a lot of states of mind I'd much rather be.

    In some ways, anger might be an emotion that will always resurface time and again, even if we gain some control over it's origins, such as placing less value on our egos, or importance attached to money. Being able to see it begin, and stand back and watch the anger could be a useful skill. Just a sort of non-reactiveness.

    I would agree with Duo that anger is a more primal emotion, one that allows for less options to be explored. It is a sort of fight or flight mechanism, and most situations in life don't require that kind of response. Anger however is a good signal that something one holds as important has been violated.

    I'd rather live my life with less anger and hate. Just a lot less stressful and leaves more room for positive states of mind.
    "The whole purpose of religion is to facilitate love and compassion, patience, tolerance, humility, forgiveness."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiku
    Hate exists to clearly identify things we really don't like and help us steer clear of them.
    That's quite a good point Reiku.
    If you think about it on an instinctual level, I suppose hate does serve a purpose.
    I guess when I posted I was thinking more about things like race-hatred etc,
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    Dutch Daka wrote;
    so I think for many things there are some explanations, you can get angry about it yeah, but Hating... I think this will only goes when somebody got killed, and you are being influanced deeply in it yourself.
    Love Daila Lama

    Bravo! Yes that is very true Dutch Baka.
    One can get angry or one can become very sad, but hatred is something horrible, then things are getting from bad to worse.

    Me too, I admire the Dalai Lama.

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    Why would you admire him he only states the obvious?
    He just the same as the pope but most people just dont know about the down side of busshism ,while they know quite a bit about the disadvantages of the katholic church.

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    That's an interesting opinion Moffeltoff. Although it is a bit offtopic, could you expand on it a bit more? What does the Dalai Lama say that is obvious? What are the 'down sides' to Buddhism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuyoiko
    That's an interesting opinion Moffeltoff. Although it is a bit offtopic, could you expand on it a bit more? What does the Dalai Lama say that is obvious? What are the 'down sides' to Buddhism?
    i agree that Dalai Lama says obvoius things. Simple truths and solutions which are known to everyone, but we tend to look for complicated decisions, mistalenly supposing that simplicity can`t be right

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    This thread is very old, but I am posting anyway, because the issue of gangerh and ghatredh has been bothering me lately.

    Hatred is anti-life. Hatred destroys a person as that person is consumed by a desire to revenge. At one time I held hatred in my heart, because some individual destroyed something that I cherished and valued in irreparable ways. I could not bring myself to revenge, but I ended up disliking myself, because hatred was still there in my heart, which was an ugly feeling. Holding hatred within is like holding an alien (like the one in the movie) within the body.

    Hatred disappeared when I investigated a lot about that individual who did the damage. Understanding the background of evildoers is helpful.

    On the other hand, anger is easier to manage. It is healthy to get angry at certain behaviors of people, and openly express it, which I do.

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    Without Anger and hate life is boring.. :)

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    I'd say it's okay to be angry but it is how you use that anger that counts

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    It's part of human nature to feel these emotions. Anger is a force which pushes us to action, to amend what we don't like or perceive wrong. Hate is a maximum of dislike spectrum. It also helps us to make choices. It is also a part of feeling system that pushes us to action. Actually without any feelings, without feeling any emotions, we would do nothing in life. We wouldn't care, we wouldn't act or move, we wouldn't eat, or have kids, or decide anything.
    There are rare medical case of people losing emotions, by injury. They don't care for anything anymore, they can't even decide what time and date make the appointment for to the doctor. Weird stuff.
    Be wary of people who tend to glorify the past, underestimate the present, and demonize the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    It's part of human nature to feel these emotions. Anger is a force which pushes us to action, to amend what we don't like or perceive wrong. Hate is a maximum of dislike spectrum. It also helps us to make choices. It is also a part of feeling system that pushes us to action. Actually without any feelings, without feeling any emotions, we would do nothing in life. We wouldn't care, we wouldn't act or move, we wouldn't eat, or have kids, or decide anything.
    There are rare medical case of people losing emotions, by injury. They don't care for anything anymore, they can't even decide what time and date make the appointment for to the doctor. Weird stuff.
    Exactly, and it doesn't make sense at all to say which emotions are "right or evil". If you love something then you will hate what threatens it, and vice versa

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    I'm not sure if you would die, but I believe you need to express yourself or you'd have a mental breakdown. I'm not sure if that necessarily means having hate or anger though. If you can live a zen life without feeling hate or anger then you must be some holy monk or something. Express yourself if you have to! Try to do so in a way that won't hurt someone else though (not just physically).

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    Nah, anger only affects me rarely and if I do get angry it's predominantly because I'm on a very pressing schedule.

    I don't see a reason for hate, the only thing I hate is hate itself it seems, there is only sadness.

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    Hate and Anger are natural defence mechanisms to help you survive.

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