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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    All the elements (oxygen and water included) heavier than Helium and Lithium in our solar system were created during explosion of a massive star, the supernova. After this explosion (a billion years or two later) this huge cloud of gas and new elements coalesced into our solar system, and few others, our neighbors. When most of it collapsed into a big ball of matter, under its own gravity, it ignited nuclear fusion and our Sun was created. Rest of matter, which did not collapse into our Sun made the rest of planets with water on them. That's why our Sun is a billion years younger than all the elements on planets. The hydrogen and helium in our sun is old as universe, but life of our Sun counts from first ignition.

    It doesn't mean that our water was on other planets in other solar systems before coming to Earth. After explosion of Multanova water was flying through space for millions of years till it found earth and landed on it. Probably in shape of comets, the big snowballs in space. We don't have them too many now, but at the beginning of our system, there could have been billions of them, bombarding young Earth every minute.
    Finally, proof of intelligent life on Earth. Just when I was beginning to have some doubts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberdeen View Post
    Finally, proof of intelligent life on Earth. Just when I was beginning to have some doubts.
    It is big finding, science made progress:

    "Scientists have confirmed that much of the water on earth is older than the sun — which could indicate the existence of life on other worlds.

    Researchers found that much of the water on Earth and across the system predates the sun, which could mean that other planets in the had access to water as they were being formed. That would likely be required to sustain life on any of those planets, as it has done on earth, the researchers said."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garrick View Post
    It is big finding, science made progress:

    "Scientists have confirmed that much of the water on earth is older than the sun — which could indicate the existence of life on other worlds.

    Researchers found that much of the water on Earth and across the system predates the sun, which could mean that other planets in the had access to water as they were being formed. That would likely be required to sustain life on any of those planets, as it has done on earth, the researchers said."
    So you either didn't read or didn't understand what LeBrok wrote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberdeen View Post
    So you either didn't read or didn't understand what LeBrok wrote.
    No. Of course, with pleasure I read what LeBrok wrote.
    But I cannot quote original scientific paper, published in renowned Journal: "Science" (that would be the right thing, not a newspaper article):
    http://www.sciencemag.org/content/345/6204/1590.full

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garrick View Post
    No. Of course, with pleasure I read what LeBrok wrote.
    But I cannot quote original scientific paper, published in renowned Journal: "Science" (that would be the right thing, not a newspaper article):
    http://www.sciencemag.org/content/345/6204/1590.full
    We can't get behind Sign In screen, however they wrote this in their summary:
    Water throughout the solar system exhibits deuterium-to-hydrogen enrichments, a fossil relic of low-temperature, ion-derived chemistry within either (i) the parent molecular cloud o
    Eluded to gas cloud after Supernova explosion, before becoming of our solar system, I guess.
    We know that water is in space and we found it on Moon, on Saturn's moon Europa, every comet flying by Earth, in clouds after Supernova explosions (by analyzing light spectrums coming from the cloud), etc.
    Moon Europea, one big iceball.


    Perhaps, there is something else revolutionary in this research (we can't access it to see), but not the idea that water is also on other planets and space. We know that for decades.
    Be wary of people who tend to glorify the past, underestimate the present, and demonize the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    We can't get behind Sign In screen, however they wrote this in their summary:
    Eluded to gas cloud after Supernova explosion, before becoming of our solar system, I guess.
    We know that water is in space and we found it on Moon, on Saturn's moon Europa, every comet flying by Earth, in clouds after Supernova explosions (by analyzing light spectrums coming from the cloud), etc.
    Moon Europea, one big iceball.
    Perhaps, there is something else revolutionary in this research (we can't access it to see), but not the idea that water is also on other planets and space. We know that for decades.
    Yes LeBrok, and of course devil is in details.

    The question is when and where the water (the ice) ensued.

    In interstellar medium before the Sun formation?
    or Inside solar nebula? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebular_hypothesis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garrick View Post
    Yes LeBrok, and of course devil is in details.

    The question is when and where the water (the ice) ensued.

    In interstellar medium before the Sun formation?
    or Inside solar nebula? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebular_hypothesis
    In interstellar cloud of gases after explosing of Supernowa. When the cloud cooled enough oxygen and hydrogen fused together creating water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeBrok View Post
    In interstellar cloud of gases after explosing of Supernowa. When the cloud cooled enough oxygen and hydrogen fused together creating water.
    I think so, too.

    There is a difference between approaches of interstellar medium and solar nebula, in first case it is greater similarity between different planetary systems when interstellar ices/water are included into rotating circumstellar disks, in second case there would be much greater differences in terms of ice/water between different planetary systems in Universe, depending of more factors.

    If judging by abstract and newspaper articles authors gave some proofs concerning the first approach.

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    yes, why not?? ;p

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    Has anybody considered the possibility of human's depleting the natural resources on Earth and having the inhabit another planet? Such as water.

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    I agree with the author as our Universe is something such big that we can't even imagine and there must be some other creatures except us.

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    Yes definetly yes.

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    Of course there is. The universe is huge. One thing I don't understand is why they're searching life on earth-like planets...I'm sure some weird creature could have evoluted in a way it can survive on a planet where we wouldn't survive a second.

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    There are high possibilities that there might be Earth-like life in the astral zone of Epsilon Eridani. This system is very familiar to our Solar system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gitte View Post
    Of course there is. The universe is huge. One thing I don't understand is why they're searching life on earth-like planets...I'm sure some weird creature could have evoluted in a way it can survive on a planet where we wouldn't survive a second.
    "Otherwise it would be a terrible waste of space." (from brilliant movie, Contact).
    http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/gr...e-contact-1997

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    Woow. That's really interesting.

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    If so I wish to live on Mars.

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    Think the Chinese informed on Tuesday,15th Jan 2019, that they had succesfully planted, and grew some plants on the moon ,but its reported that they had then died by Thursday,17th Jan 2019, due to the extreme cold conditions.

    If life is found it is going to be 'very very' different, to that on Earth. Look at the vast extreme differences of species of life found on Earth today, and those that we know previously existed. Earth has a very 'unique' history of differing enviroments throughout its existance. We are still finding new forms or species of life, on Earth yearly I believe, and there are many more to find no doubt.

    We have no idea what intelligence and life exists yet in space, but the idiots at 'Nasa' should never of sent that probe into deep space in my opinion, telling any 'life',' we are 'here' and 'Hello'. Earthlings may soon come to regret those actions by a 'very tiny few' that possibly could put billions at future risk.

    I also believe the only impression, any other alien life that comes across us, can possible have is negative, as they cannot fail to see, and understand the recent mess we create on our Earth, and the fact that we keep killing each other, and almost every, other species, that exists, we come across or we find here. Any sensible 'alien life' with even the very least grain of intelligence would rightly ignore us, probably as they have done up too now, or destroy us for there own future safety.

    There is today a recent set of opinions regarding the planet 'Mars', some people are pushing/supporting a view that evidence of two possible nuclear explosions exist there. They assume that these were 'manufactured explosions', and were responsible for totally wiping out all, or any life that was believed to of been in existance there, at that time.

    Space is a very violent place, and any life will no doubt have to be born or develope from this violence. Therefore any exterrestrial intelligent life must be aware, or have its knowledge of this, and looking for other life in space,, the way we have, might not be the best way forward. We could or might end up on some aliens plate, or stuck in some type of test tube...lol
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    There is likely life somewhere in the universe. Does that life resemble humanoids? Little grey/green men with big eyes? Hell no! They likely resemble jellyfish.

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    Here is a list of discovered exoplanets around other nearby stars, that seem to have all the conditions to host life as we know it on Earth. (Earth is for comparison)
    So when we get to them, genetics will work even more...
    Object Star Star type Mass (M) Radius (R) Flux (F) Teq (K) Period (days) Distance (ly) Ref
    Earth
    Sun (Sol) G2V 1.00 1.00 1.00 255 365.24 -
    Proxima Centauri b Proxima Centauri M6Ve ≥1.3 0.8 – 1.1 – 1.4 0.65 234 11.186 4.22 [12]
    Gliese 667 Cc Gliese 667 C M3V ≥3.8 1.1 – 1.5 – 2.0 0.88 277 28.143 ± 0.029 23.62 [13][14]
    Kepler-442b Kepler-442 K?V 8.2 – 2.3 – 1.0 1.34 0.70 233 112.3053 1291.6 [14]
    Kepler-452b Kepler-452 G2V 19.8 – 4.7 – 1.9 1.50, 1.63 1.11 265
    +15
    −13
    384.8 1402 [14][15]
    Wolf 1061c Wolf 1061 M3V ≥ 4.3 1.1 – 1.6 – 2.0 0.60 223 17.9 13.8 [14]
    Kepler-1229b Kepler-1229 M?V 9.8 – 2.7 – 1.2 1.4 0.49 213 86.8 769 [14]
    Kapteyn b* Kapteyn sdM1 ≥ 4.8 1.2 - 1.6 - 2.1 0.43 205 48.6 13 [14]
    Kepler-62f Kepler-62 K2V 10.2 – 2.8 – 1.2 1.41 0.39 244 267.291 1200 [14][16]
    Kepler-186f Kepler-186 M1V 4.7 – 1.5 – 0.6 1.17 0.29 188 129.9459 561 [14]
    Luyten b Luyten's Star M3.5V 3.15 - 2.89 - 2.63 1.06 206-293 18.650 12.36 [17]
    TRAPPIST-1d TRAPPIST-1 M8V 0.30 0.78 1.04 258 4.05 39 [18][19]
    TRAPPIST-1e TRAPPIST-1 M8V 0.77 0.91 0.67 230 6.1 39 [18][19]
    TRAPPIST-1f TRAPPIST-1 M8V 0.93 1.046 0.38 200 9.2 39 [18][19]
    TRAPPIST-1g TRAPPIST-1 M8V 1.15 1.15 0.26 182 12.4 39 [18][19]
    LHS 1140 b LHS 1140 M?V 6.6 1.43 0.46 230 25 40 [20]
    Kepler-1638b Kepler-1638 G4V 45 – 6 – 1 1.60 1.17 304 259.365 2491.83 [21]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ble_exoplanets

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    I think all this is possible. Sometimes it seems to me that my whole life is a complete dream, and when I wake up I will be committed by another person.

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    I'm sure there is life on other planets.

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    I am quite sure there is somebody on other planets and in other galaxies, with a higher IQ level and with more performant things in their arsenal.

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