Ancestry

[Tautalus]

What is your theory for the story of your y-dna?

I don't exactly know how this haplogroup arrived in Portugal.
The ancestor clade (I-FT384439) belongs to a Frenchman, I don't know what region he is from. I imagine he is from northern France, since Globetrekker associates this region with his haplogroup.
My clade has 2 descendant clades. One (I-FTB15859) belongs to an individual from an unknown country, but with a Swedish surname (He participates in an FTDNA project). The other (I-FTB15686) belongs to two Germans from Schleswig-Holstein, in northern Germany, on the border with Denmark (They participate in an FTDNA project as well).
Globetrekker marks the coastal area from northern France to Denmark with blue shading, representing the expansion of the descendant clades. Personally, I think the expansion of the descending clades went in the opposite direction, from North to South. But regardless of that my ancient ancestor must have come from that area.
He could have been a Frank, an Anglo-Saxon, a Frisian. He may have come from Flanders, as you suggested.
He could have been a crusader or a settler who came to Portugal during the Reconquista period.
I doubt it came with the Suebi, they, like their Lombard cousins, must have belonged to the S2364 branch, which is the largest I2a2 subclade, not to my branch.
But the data I have is not sufficient to have a more concrete idea about all this.

 

[Luso]

What have I learned from all these DNA tests and calculators?

I have a germanic paternal lineage, a yamnaya maternal lineage, I have admixtures from the west, from the south, from the north, from the east of the continent, I have a bit of North African.
Going back a little further in time my greatest single admixture is from the farmers (EEF), the second from the hunter-gatherers (WHG).

What a mix. Did what I learned about my ancestry change my perception of myself in any way?
No, I feel the way I felt before, a Portuguese, a European, a man from the West, from the Atlantic shores.

Ultimately, these feelings were intensified, because those tests made me see how intimately connected I am to this country, this continent and its history. These tests confirm my identity.

At school we have learned about all the peoples that contributed to the formation of our nations, in the Portuguese case they were the prehistoric peoples (from the Paleolithic, the Neolithic…), the Lusitanians, the Suebi and all the others who passed through this country and settled here, these tests revealed that the history taught is real, we are a mixture of all these peoples.

A cumulative mix of many and diverse elements that contributed to the ethnic formation of the nation.
And that is beautiful and inspiring.

Well said. In my family’s case, an Indo-European derived paternal lineage and a European Farmer maternal lineage (maybe Globular). We all have similar quantities of different admixture sources. My case seems like I have some more non-european influences than maybe some other Portuguese, but it is expected being from a coastal southern area… prone to other influences.

 

[Tautalus]

Well said. In my family’s case, an Indo-European derived paternal lineage and a European Farmer maternal lineage (maybe Globular). We all have similar quantities of different admixture sources. My case seems like I have some more non-european influences than maybe some other Portuguese, but it is expected being from a coastal southern area… prone to other influences.

Your paternal lineage is older in Portugal then mine, it came with the Bell Beakers, is here at least from the Bronze Age.

Portuguese genetics are quite homogeneous, considering that there may be small differences between the North and the South, and the main factor of this homogeneity must have been the Reconquista. From then until today, each region must have evolved in some relative isolation, influenced by different historical events, such as the influence of the Discoveries (European and extra-European flows of goods and people) in the South and in the Lisbon region.