Automosal DNA test conflicting one another?

Idun · Dec 2, 2013

mihaitzateo said:
I just looked on some results from K36.
Have seen Austrian with about 8.53% Feno-Scandian,someone from FYROM with over 5% Feno-Scandian,some Greek with over 5% Feno-Scandian etc.
In Eastern Europe,except Russia,Vikings were not present.
Only Eastern and Western Germanic tribes,were present here.So I think is quite clear Eastern Germanic tribes and Western Germanic tribes (like Anglo-Saxons) were also bearers of Feno-Scandian admixture,but not in high numbers.
So a very logic thing is to say Feno-Scandian from a normal English comes from both his Anglo-Saxon ancestry and from his Norman (which were Vikings mixed with French people) ancestry.No idea if vikings who raided in English left too many genes,but Normas clearly left,since they came and settled in England and mixed with the population there.

They did not raid, they came with whole families.

Idun · Dec 2, 2013

English Lad said:
My Father's line is all Kent as far back as early 1700's, that's as far as i got before spending money on DNA tests rather than on family trees. The issue is, my DYS388 wasn't 10 which is typically R1a L664 ( Germanic?), so I'm expected to see the Scandinavian Subclade Z284, but even then, there's a chance that it could instead be Slavic, or Jewish or whichever else...

Then it could be from the original Jutes invasion also, no Viking settlements there.

English Lad · Dec 2, 2013

Idun said:
Then it could be from the original Jutes invasion also, no Viking settlements there.

I can only speculate that it'd be either Jutes or probably a Norman of viking descent, many Normans settled here. I am only a 1 hour drive away from Hastings... Can't have taken them long to get here after they destroyed the English Shieldwall.

Idun · Dec 2, 2013

English Lad said:
I can only speculate that it'd be either Jutes or probably a Norman of viking descent, many Normans settled here. I am only a 1 hour drive away from Hastings... Can't have taken them long to get here after they destroyed the English Shieldwall.

Remember when I went to school as a kid in Cambridge, my father was studying there, and got in a heated argument with the teacher about the Normans.
She was very angry when I insisted that they where Norsemen, she disagreed and got very mad.

Idun · Dec 2, 2013

I still think 13.01% Fennoscandian looks high, is the Iberian = Celtic in this?

English Lad · Dec 2, 2013

Idun said:
Remember when I went to school as a kid in Cambridge, my father was studying there, and got in a heated argument with the teacher about the Normans.
She was very angry when I insisted that they where Norsemen, she disagreed and got very mad.

To be completely honest, the genetic legacy of Normans has me stumped. Whether they were more Flemish, or Celtic, or Germanic or Norse. Much of that DNA was already in Britain so it's not like they had much affect on the gene pool to begin with. The DNA they carried was likely already here. The origin of the very first Normans was no doubt Norsemen who settled in Normandy, otherwise they wouldn't have existed to begin with.

English Lad · Dec 2, 2013

Idun said:
I still think 13.01% Fennoscandian looks high, is the Iberian = Celtic in this?

I'm not sure really. The bloke who blogs about it, says that the results shouldn't be taken too literally, as although 12% Iberian admixture shows, that doesn't mean to say it's recent. In fact, I'm not sure how far back these tests go in Years.

All I know is that on each test, Eurogenes and Dodecad. The largest chunk of my ancestry is North- Central Euro. My population matches in genetic relations is usually Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, German, and Sweden.

Here's another with the Dodecad V3 project,

It doesn't label Central North Euro, instead it labels West and Central ( CEU) European, but look at my genetic relations.

Admix Results (sorted):

Population
West_European

[TD="align: center"] # [/TD]

[TD="align: right"] Percent [/TD]

[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]53.97[/TD]

[TD="align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Mediterranean[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]25.26[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]East_European[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]10.93[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]West_Asian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]8.22[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Southwest_Asian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]1.61[/TD]

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 CEU @ 1.426
2 N._European @ 2.806
3 Orcadian @ 2.940
4 Argyll @ 2.978
5 Orkney @ 3.316
6 German @ 7.100
7 Mixed_Germanic @ 8.785
8 Dutch @ 10.028
9 French @ 11.344
10 French @ 11.785
227 iterations

Edit, here's another

dodecad K12

Admix Results (sorted):

Population

[TD="align: center"] # [/TD]

[TD="align: right"] Percent [/TD]

[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]North_European[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]45.52[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Atlantic_Med[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]36.84[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Gedrosia[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]9.38[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Caucasus[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]6.82[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Southwest_Asian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]1.45[/TD]

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Mixed_Germanic @ 2.714
2 Dutch @ 3.192
3 German @ 5.932
4 CEU30 @ 6.120
5 English @ 6.366
6 Kent @ 6.414
7 British_Isles @ 7.453
8 Argyll @ 8.659
9 Orkney @ 8.935
10 British @ 9.139
223 iterations.

Idun · Dec 2, 2013

Anyone know if they are really getting DNA from Rollo? Interesting to Finns if the sagas have any truth with him being an Yngling.

Idun · Dec 2, 2013

English Lad said:
I'm not sure really. The bloke who blogs about it, says that the results shouldn't be taken too literally, as although 12% Iberian admixture shows, that doesn't mean to say it's recent. In fact, I'm not sure how far back these tests go in Years.

All I know is that on each test, Eurogenes and Dodecad. The largest chunk of my ancestry is North- Central Euro. My population matches in genetic relations is usually Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, German, and Sweden.

Here's another with the Dodecad V3 project,

It doesn't label Central North Euro, instead it labels West and Central ( CEU) European, but look at my genetic relations.

Admix Results (sorted):

Population
West_European

[TD="align: center"] # [/TD]

[TD="align: right"] Percent [/TD]

[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]53.97[/TD]

[TD="align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Mediterranean[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]25.26[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]East_European[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]10.93[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]West_Asian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]8.22[/TD]

[TD="width: 30, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="width: 120"]Southwest_Asian[/TD]
[TD="width: 50, align: right"]1.61[/TD]

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 CEU @ 1.426
2 N._European @ 2.806
3 Orcadian @ 2.940
4 Argyll @ 2.978
5 Orkney @ 3.316
6 German @ 7.100
7 Mixed_Germanic @ 8.785
8 Dutch @ 10.028
9 French @ 11.344
10 French @ 11.785
227 iterations

I think the Med and Iberia are part of the Celtic and Roman influence.

English Lad · Dec 2, 2013

Idun said:
Anyone know if they are really getting DNA from Rollo? Interesting to Finns if the sagas have any truth with him being an Yngling.

What's that, may I ask?

Idun · Dec 2, 2013

English Lad said:
What's that, may I ask?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yngling

Snorri Sturluson hints at a less divine origin in Skáldskaparmál for this dynasty: One war-king was named Skelfir; and his house is called the House of Skilfings: his kindred is in the Eastern Land. In the 13th century, the official Swedish/Scandinavian term for the modern-day Southern Finland was "Eastern Land", Österland, i.e. the eastern half of Sweden at the time.
In Ynglinga Saga in 1220 AD, Snorri Sturluson discusses marriages between Swedish and Finnish royal families. In 1220 AD (c.), in the Skáldskaparmál section of Edda, Sturluson discusses King Halfdan the Old, Nór's great-grandson, and nine of his sons who are the forefathers of various royal lineages, including "Yngvi, from whom the Ynglings are descended". According to Orkneyinga Saga in 1230 AD, Nór founded Norway. He was a direct descendant of Fornjótr, the King of Finland, Kvenland and Gotland. Many Scandinavian historians name Halfdan the Old as an ancestor to Rollo, the Viking conqueror who founded Normandy and took the name Robert I (the first) after converting to Christianity. He is William the Conqueror's great grandfather.
In 1387 AD, Hversu Noregr byggðist ('How Norway was inhabited') is an account of the origin of various legendary Norwegian lineages. It too traces the descendants of the primeval Finnish ruler Fornjotr down to Nór, who is here the eponym and first great king of Norway, and then gives details of the descendants of Nór and of his brother Gór in the following section known as the Ættartölur ('Genealogies', a.k.a. Fundinn Noregr, 'Founding of Norway'). The Hversu account is closely paralleled by the opening of the Orkneyinga saga.
The 'genealogies' also claim that many heroic families famed in Scandinavian tradition but not located in Norway were of a Finn-Kven stock, mostly sprung from Nór's great-grandson Halfdan the Old. Almost all the lineages sprung from Halfdan are then shown to reconvert in the person of Harald Fairhair, the first king of "all Norway". This information can be confirmed in other sources.
The 'Ættartölur' account ends to a genealogy of Harald's royal descendants down to Olaf IV of Norway with the statement that the account was written in 1387, and with a list of the kings of Norway from this Olaf back to Harald Fair-hair.
Another origin for the name skilfing is possible: Snorri described Erik and Alrik, the sons of Skjalf to be the de facto ancestors of this Norse-Finnish clan.
The kings who resided at Upsal had been the supreme chiefs over the whole Swedish dominions until the death of Agne, when, as before related, the kingdom came to be divided between brothers (Alrek and Erik). After that time the dominions and kingly powers were spread among the branches of the family as these increased; but some kings cleared great tracts of forest-land, and settled them, and thereby increased their domains.[

English Lad · Dec 13, 2013

Update; FTDNA sent me my 25 and 37 markers.

[h=5]PANEL 2 (13-25)[/h][TABLE="width: 1658"]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Marker[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS458[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS459[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS455[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS454[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS447[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS437[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS448[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS449[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS464[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Value[/TH]
[TD="align: center"]15[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]9-10[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]23[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]20[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]31[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]12-15-15-16[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[h=5]PANEL 3 (26-37)[/h][TABLE="width: 1658"]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Marker[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS460[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Y-GATA-H4[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]YCAII[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS456[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS607[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS576[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS570[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]CDY[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS442[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS438[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Value[/TH]
[TD="align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]19-22[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]15[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]37-38[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Guesses?

Idun · Dec 13, 2013

English Lad said:
Update; FTDNA sent me my 25 and 37 markers.

PANEL 2 (13-25)

[TABLE="width: 1658"]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Marker[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS458[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS459[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS455[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS454[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS447[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS437[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS448[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS449[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS464[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Value[/TH]
[TD="align: center"]15[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]9-10[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]23[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]20[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]31[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]12-15-15-16[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

PANEL 3 (26-37)

[TABLE="width: 1658"]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Marker[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS460[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Y-GATA-H4[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]YCAII[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS456[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS607[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS576[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS570[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]CDY[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS442[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS438[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Value[/TH]
[TD="align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]19-22[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]15[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]37-38[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Guesses?

DYS458 15, Fennoskandia, I think.

Idun · Dec 13, 2013

What is your DYS394?

DYS570 18 points to Scandinavia also.

English Lad · Dec 13, 2013

Is DYS394 known as DYS19? If so, it's 15. I only have two matches at 37 markers, one is female who hasn't revealed her location and the other is a male who is from West Norway. I'm at a genetic distance of 4 from both, so likely it is distant than recent. It says His shorthand is -

R-SRY10831.2.

Which I don't think says much... Unless I can get him to email me his 67 marker STR results, that might help.

Idun · Dec 14, 2013

English Lad said:
Is DYS394 known as DYS19? If so, it's 15. I only have two matches at 37 markers, one is female who hasn't revealed her location and the other is a male who is from West Norway. I'm at a genetic distance of 4 from both, so likely it is distant than recent. It says His shorthand is -
R-SRY10831.2.
Which I don't think says much... Unless I can get him to email me his 67 marker STR results, that might help.

Yes, its DYS19.

Look here, scroll to the end, you hit most of the separating values between the lineages as Old Norse.

Old Norse 37


13	25	10	11	14	12	12	10	13	11	30	15	9	10	11	11	23	14	20	32	12	15	15	16	11	11	19	23	16	16	18	34	12	11

[TD="colspan: 67"][/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #33FF33, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #33FF33"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #33FF33"] [/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #33FF33"]15[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #33FF33"]18[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #33FF33"]39[/TD]

http://danishdemes.org/YDNA-results-HgR1a.html

English Lad · Dec 14, 2013

Idun said:
Yes, its DYS19.

Look here, scroll to the end, you hit most of the separating values between the lineages as Old Norse.

Old Norse 37

13 25 10 11 14 12 12 10 13 11 30 15 9 10 11 11 23 14 20 32 12 15 15 16 11 11 19 23 16 16 18 34 12 11

[TD="colspan: 67"][/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #33FF33, colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #33FF33"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #33FF33"][/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #33FF33"]15[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #33FF33"]18[/TD]

[TD="bgcolor: #33FF33"]39[/TD]

http://danishdemes.org/YDNA-results-HgR1a.html

I can't be far off Norse then, most if not all values I miss are off just by 1. Interesting!

English Lad · Dec 20, 2013

My entire 67 marker STR values.

[h=5]PANEL 1 (1-12)[/h][TABLE="width: 1658"]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Marker[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS393[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS390[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS19**[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS391[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS385[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS426[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS388[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS439[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS389I[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS392[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS389II***[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Value[/TH]
[TD="align: center"]13[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]25[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]15[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11-14[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]29[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[h=5]PANEL 2 (13-25)[/h][TABLE="width: 1658"]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Marker[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS458[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS459[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS455[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS454[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS447[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS437[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS448[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS449[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS464[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Value[/TH]
[TD="align: center"]15[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]9-10[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]23[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]20[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]31[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]12-15-15-16[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[h=5]PANEL 3 (26-37)[/h][TABLE="width: 1658"]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Marker[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS460[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Y-GATA-H4[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]YCAII[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS456[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS607[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS576[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS570[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]CDY[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS442[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS438[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Value[/TH]
[TD="align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]19-22[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]15[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]37-38[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[h=5]PANEL 4 (38-47)[/h][TABLE="width: 1658"]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Marker[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS531[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS578[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYF395S1[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS590[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS537[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS641[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS472[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYF406S1[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS511[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Value[/TH]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]17-17[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]10[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[h=5]PANEL 4 (48-60)[/h][TABLE="width: 1658"]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Marker[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS425[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS413[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS557[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS594[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS436[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS490[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS534[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS450[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS444[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS481[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS520[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS446[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Value[/TH]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]22-22[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]23[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]22[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[h=5]PANEL 4 (61-67)[/h][TABLE="width: 1658"]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Marker[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS617[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS568[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS487[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS572[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS640[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS492[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS565[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Value[/TH]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]13[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Idun · Dec 21, 2013

English Lad said:
My entire 67 marker STR values.

PANEL 1 (1-12)

[TABLE="width: 1658"]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Marker[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS393[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS390[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS19**[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS391[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS385[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS426[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS388[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS439[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS389I[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS392[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS389II***[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Value[/TH]
[TD="align: center"]13[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]25[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]15[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11-14[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]29[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

PANEL 2 (13-25)

[TABLE="width: 1658"]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Marker[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS458[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS459[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS455[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS454[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS447[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS437[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS448[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS449[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS464[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Value[/TH]
[TD="align: center"]15[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]9-10[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]23[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]20[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]31[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]12-15-15-16[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

PANEL 3 (26-37)

[TABLE="width: 1658"]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Marker[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS460[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Y-GATA-H4[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]YCAII[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS456[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS607[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS576[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS570[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]CDY[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS442[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS438[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Value[/TH]
[TD="align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]19-22[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]15[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]37-38[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

PANEL 4 (38-47)

[TABLE="width: 1658"]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Marker[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS531[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS578[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYF395S1[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS590[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS537[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS641[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS472[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYF406S1[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS511[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Value[/TH]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]17-17[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]10[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

PANEL 4 (48-60)

[TABLE="width: 1658"]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Marker[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS425[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS413[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS557[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS594[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS436[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS490[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS534[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS450[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS444[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS481[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS520[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS446[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Value[/TH]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]22-22[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]23[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]22[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

PANEL 4 (61-67)

[TABLE="width: 1658"]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Marker[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS617[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS568[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS487[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS572[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS640[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS492[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]DYS565[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #EBEBEB, align: center"]Value[/TH]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]13[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Did you find anything interesting comparing your values?

English Lad · Dec 21, 2013

Idun said:
Did you find anything interesting comparing your values?

Well everything indicated Norse, which it is but the only interesting thing is that my R1a is the older branch for Scandinavian. I'm ( suspected by Larry via R1a project ) R1a Z284*

8.E3B. Z287+ CTS8401+ Z281- Clade Z287, subclade CTS8401, cluster E3B

If you ever look at the R1a results map, that's me

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13	25	10	11	14	12	12	10	13	11	30	15	9	10	11	11	23	14	20	32	12	15	15	16	11	11	19	23	16	16	18	34	12	11


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