G25 G25 Big Bronze Age and Iron Age List

qh777 · Jan 6, 2024

I pretty much took almost every single sample labeled EBA,MBA,LBA,EIA,MIA, and LIA and compiled them into a list of over 2,000. It includes some new ancient Greek samples from 2023 as well as Iron Age Swedish samples.
Share your results below!

Dorquest · Jan 6, 2024

Target: Dorquest_scaled Distance: 1.5814% / 0.01581407 \| R3P
50.4	Norway_IA.SG

30.2	England_MIA

19.4	Greece_Mygdalia_LBA.rel

Target: Dorquest_scaled Distance: 1.4254% / 0.01425435 \| R5P
34.8	Norway_IA.SG

20.8	Oland_IA

16.0	Croatia_MLBA

15.6	Netherlands_MIA_LIA

12.8	Macedonia_Classical_Hellenistic

Target: Dorquest_scaled Distance: 1.3830% / 0.01383024
30.6	Norway_IA.SG

16.2	Oland_IA

14.0	Netherlands_MIA_LIA

13.2	Croatia_MLBA

9.0	England_MIA

7.4	Macedonia_Classical_Hellenistic

3.0	France_Occitanie_IA2.SG

2.2	France_GrandEst_IA2.SG

2.0	Greece_Mygdalia_LBA.rel

1.4	Italy_IA_Republic.SG

0.6	Hungary_IA_LaTene

0.4	Latvia_BA

Stefano · Jan 6, 2024

Target: StefanoMerged_scaled
Distance: 0.0037% / 0.00374093
17.7 Greece_Chania_LBA
14.9 Hungary_IA_LaTene
10.5 Scotland_Orkney_MBA.SG
8.6 Greece_Aposelemis_LBA
8.1 England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA
6.7 England_MIA_LIA
5.6 France_HautsDeFrance_IA2.SG
5.1 Greece_HgCharalambos_EMBA
5.1 Greece_Koufonisi_Cycladic_EBA.SG
4.3 Greece_NeaStyra_EBA
3.9 Greece_Minoan_Lassithi
2.8 Spain_IA
1.6 Israel_Ashkelon_LBA
1.3 Belize_4900BP
1.3 Netherlands_MBA
0.9 England_NorthYorkshire_EBA.SG
0.8 Turkmenistan_Gonur_BA_1
0.6 France_Occitanie_IA2.SG
0.1 Iran_DinkhaTepe_BA_IA_2
0.1 Russia_Ekven_IA.SG

Target: StefanoMerged_scaled
Distance: 0.0109% / 0.01086916 | R2P
50.4 England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA
49.6 Greece_Chania_LBA

Target: StefanoMerged_scaled
Distance: 0.0091% / 0.00913123 | R3P
50.3 Greece_Chania_LBA
36.0 Czech_EBA_Unetice
13.7 Spain_IA

Target: StefanoMerged_scaled
Distance: 0.0085% / 0.00851733 | R4P
45.7 Greece_Chania_LBA
22.2 England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA
20.5 Hungary_IA_LaTene
11.6 England_NorthYorkshire_EBA.SG

qh777 · Jan 6, 2024

Dorquest said:
[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TH]Target: Dorquest_scaled
Distance: 1.5814% / 0.01581407 | R3P[/TH]

[TH][/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]50.4[/TD]
[TD]Norway_IA.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]30.2[/TD]
[TD]England_MIA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]19.4[/TD]
[TD]Greece_Mygdalia_LBA.rel[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TH]Target: Dorquest_scaled
Distance: 1.4254% / 0.01425435 | R5P[/TH]

[TH][/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]34.8[/TD]
[TD]Norway_IA.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]20.8[/TD]
[TD]Oland_IA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]16.0[/TD]
[TD]Croatia_MLBA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]15.6[/TD]
[TD]Netherlands_MIA_LIA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12.8[/TD]
[TD]Macedonia_Classical_Hellenistic[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TH]Target: Dorquest_scaled
Distance: 1.3830% / 0.01383024[/TH]

[TH][/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]30.6[/TD]
[TD]Norway_IA.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]16.2[/TD]
[TD]Oland_IA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]14.0[/TD]
[TD]Netherlands_MIA_LIA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]13.2[/TD]
[TD]Croatia_MLBA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]9.0[/TD]
[TD]England_MIA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7.4[/TD]
[TD]Macedonia_Classical_Hellenistic[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3.0[/TD]
[TD]France_Occitanie_IA2.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2.2[/TD]
[TD]France_GrandEst_IA2.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2.0[/TD]
[TD]Greece_Mygdalia_LBA.rel[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1.4[/TD]
[TD]Italy_IA_Republic.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]0.6[/TD]
[TD]Hungary_IA_LaTene[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]0.4[/TD]
[TD]Latvia_BA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

That Oland_IA is one of the new 2023 Swedish samples. I’d say the 3-way reflects your ancestry well

torzio · Jan 6, 2024

Distance to:	Veritus_scaled
0.02204589	Croatia_EIA:I24639
0.02410066	Czech_LBA_Knoviz_o3:I13786
0.02584360	Czech_IA_LaTene:I17139
0.02626736	Austria_IA_LaTene:I11701
0.02740522	Croatia_MBA_Cetina:I18745
0.02745951	Italy_IA_Republic_o.SG:R1.SG
0.02771269	Croatia_MLBA:I18729
0.02833393	Croatia_MLBA:I18737
0.02903576	Croatia_BA:I18712
0.02907990	Macedonia_IA:I10385
0.02997141	Croatia_EIA:I23996
0.03000115	Croatia_MBA:I5074
0.03014466	Croatia_MBA:I5080
0.03029099	Croatia_EIA:I23995
0.03088401	Croatia_MBA_Cetina:I18752
0.03152823	Serbia_Mokrin_EBA_Maros.SG:MOK29A.SG
0.03216357	Croatia_MLBA:I18072
0.03224049	Croatia_EIA:I23911
0.03232159	Croatia_EIA:I23904
0.03254677	Hungary_EIA_Prescythian_Mezocsat:I11683
0.03260869	Serbia_Mokrin_EBA_Maros.SG:MOK32.SG
0.03261789	Slovenia_EIA:I22940
0.03290961	Croatia_MLBA:I18725
0.03300471	Croatia_EIA:I5728
0.03310352	Croatia_MBA:I26774

qh777 · Jan 7, 2024

2 way results with https://allelocator.ovh/Oracle2way-v2.html

Target: qh777_MH_scaled (25 iterations, 2.1 million models generated in 0.57 s)
1 0.016 83% England_EastYorkshire_LIA:I22062 + 17% Greece_Mygdalia_LBA.rel:MYG002
2 0.017 70% England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA:I5505 + 30% Czech_IA_LaTene:I20513
3 0.017 71% Czech_IA_LaTene:I16273 + 29% France_SouthEast_IA2:I13620
4 0.017 52% Scotland_Orkney_IA.SG:KD004.SG + 48% Czech_IA_LaTene:I17321
5 0.017 78% England_MIA:I14348 + 22% Greece_Mygdalia_LBA.rel:MYG002
6 0.017 53% Scotland_LIA:I3568 + 47% Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984
7 0.017 55% England_MIA:I19908 + 45% England_MIA:I7632
8 0.018 54% Czech_IA_LaTene:I17321 + 46% England_MBA:I16454
9 0.018 52% Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984 + 48% England_MIA_LIA:I20626
10 0.018 57% England_MIA_LIA:I21310 + 43% England_EastYorkshire_EIA:I11033
11 0.018 88% England_EIA:I27382 + 12% Kazakhstan_Sarmatian_IA:SGZ001
12 0.018 69% England_MBA:I7577 + 31% Italy_Tuscany_Grosseto_Etruscan:CSN013
13 0.019 75% England_MIA:I17015 + 25% Macedonia_IA:I8112
14 0.019 80% England_MIA_LIA:I20622 + 20% Croatia_MBA_Cetina:I19032
15 0.019 58% England_MBA_lowEEF:I7580 + 42% Croatia_MLBA:I18720
16 0.019 59% England_MBA:I16454 + 41% France_MBA:I10344
17 0.019 65% England_MIA_LIA:I21312 + 35% England_MIA_LIA:I20624
18 0.019 71% England_MIA:I19907 + 29% Germany_SouthernGermany_Singen_EBA:MX258
19 0.019 75% England_LIA:I12927 + 25% Croatia_MBA:I26774
20 0.019 54% England_MIA_LIA:I11994 + 46% England_MIA:I20587
21 0.019 68% England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA:I13753 + 32% Croatia_MLBA:I18078
22 0.019 51% England_LBA:I14379 + 49% England_EastYorkshire_EIA:I11033
23 0.019 61% England_MIA:I13687 + 39% France_SouthEast_IA2:I13620
24 0.019 59% England_EastYorkshire_EIA:I11033 + 41% England_MIA:I14859
25 0.019 64% England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA:I12414 + 36% Slovenia_EIA:I22937

Target: qh777_ancestrydna_scaled (25 iterations, 2.1 million models generated in 0.57 s)
1 0.015 54% Scotland_Orkney_IA.SG:KD004.SG + 46% Czech_IA_LaTene:I17321
2 0.016 54% England_EastYorkshire_LIA:I22062 + 46% England_LBA:I12624
3 0.017 72% Scotland_LIA:I3568 + 28% Spain_IA:I3327
4 0.017 64% England_MIA:I19912 + 36% Czech_IA_LaTene:I17321
5 0.017 63% England_LIA:I12927 + 37% Czech_IA_LaTene:I17321
6 0.017 51% England_MIA_LIA:I21312 + 49% England_LIA_o:I14360
7 0.017 57% England_MIA:I11156 + 43% England_LBA:I12624
8 0.017 51% England_LBA:I14379 + 49% England_LIA_o:I14360
9 0.017 54% Czech_IA_LaTene:I17321 + 46% England_MBA:I16454
10 0.018 90% England_EIA:I27382 + 10% Kazakhstan_Sarmatian_IA:KBU002
11 0.018 63% England_MIA_LIA:I21311 + 37% England_MIA_LIA:I20624
12 0.018 51% Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984 + 49% England_MIA_LIA:I20626
13 0.018 59% England_MIA_LIA:I21310 + 41% England_EastYorkshire_EIA:I11033
14 0.018 52% England_MIA_LIA:I11994 + 48% England_MIA:I20587
15 0.018 73% England_MIA:I14348 + 27% Italy_Tuscany_Grosseto_Etruscan:CSN013
16 0.018 62% England_LIA_o:I14360 + 38% England_MIA:I17261
17 0.018 51% England_LBA:I12624 + 49% Scotland_LBA:I2859
18 0.018 56% England_MIA:I19908 + 44% England_MIA:I17261
19 0.019 61% England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA:I5505 + 39% Italy_TarquiniaMonterozzi_IA.SG:R10342.SG
20 0.019 76% England_MIA_LIA:I11152 + 24% Macedonia_IA:I10389
21 0.019 59% England_MBA_lowEEF:I7580 + 41% Croatia_MLBA:I18720
22 0.019 64% Scotland_LIA:I3566 + 36% France_SouthEast_IA2:I13620
23 0.019 78% England_EastYorkshire_LIA:I22057 + 22% France_GrandEst_IA1.SG:NOR4.SG
24 0.019 56% England_MIA:I20587 + 44% Wales_IA:I6771
25 0.019 70% Scotland_MIA_LIA:I2694 + 30% Italy_IA_Republic.SG:R1021.SG

Ivorix · Jan 7, 2024

Distance to:	Beowulf_Scaled
0.02425438	Slovenia_EIA:I5691
0.02475625	France_EBA:I10348
0.02528115	Hungary_LBA:I25504
0.02685104	Serbia_Mokrin_EBA_Maros:I23206
0.02715384	Croatia_MLBA:I18739
0.02717567	Croatia_MBA:I24342
0.02751251	Croatia_MLBA:I18727
0.02796672	Hungary_IA_LaTene:I18529
0.02886160	Croatia_EIA:I5725
0.02890568	Croatia_EIA:I5729

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0060% / 0.00597023 | ADC: 0.25x RC
19.7 England_MIA
18.0 Slovakia_IA_Vekerzug
14.0 Hungary_IA_LaTene
9.1 Croatia_LIA
8.9 Hungary_LBA
6.9 France_GrandEst_IA2.SG
6.7 Italy_Tuscany_Grosseto_Etruscan
5.1 England_MIA_LIA
4.3 Croatia_MLBA
3.9 Scotland_Orkney_MBA.SG
3.4 Italy_Sardinia_IA_Punic_1

LaSentinelle · Jan 7, 2024

[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TH]Target: Me_scaled
Distance: 0.9680% / 0.00967980[/TH]

[TH][/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]22.4[/TD]
[TD]Lithuania_BA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]20.2[/TD]
[TD]Russia_IA_Ingria.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10.6[/TD]
[TD]Kazakhstan_MLBA_OyDzhaylau[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10.0[/TD]
[TD]Greece_NeaStyra_EBA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]8.8[/TD]
[TD]Latvia_BA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]8.8[/TD]
[TD]Scotland_Skye_IA.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6.0[/TD]
[TD]Estonia_IA.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5.6[/TD]
[TD]Russia_EIA_Sargatka_IA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2.8[/TD]
[TD]Greece_Aposelemis_N[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2.0[/TD]
[TD]Germany_Lech_EBA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1.6[/TD]
[TD]Czech_IA_LaTene[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]0.8[/TD]
[TD]Mongolia_Khovd_MLBAXiongnuLateMedieval[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]0.4[/TD]
[TD]Croatia_MBA_Cetina[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TH]Target: Me_scaled
Distance: 1.3021% / 0.01302135 | R4P | ADC: 0.25x RC[/TH]

[TH][/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]36.0[/TD]
[TD]Russia_IA_Ingria.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]31.0[/TD]
[TD]Kazakhstan_MLBA_OyDzhaylau[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]18.2[/TD]
[TD]Lithuania_BA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]14.8[/TD]
[TD]Greece_Aposelemis_N[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

qh777 · Jan 7, 2024

Ivorix said:
[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TH]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH]Beowulf_Scaled[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]0.02425438[/TD]
[TD]Slovenia_EIA:I5691[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]0.02475625[/TD]
[TD]France_EBA:I10348[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]0.02528115[/TD]
[TD]Hungary_LBA:I25504[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]0.02685104[/TD]
[TD]Serbia_Mokrin_EBA_Maros:I23206[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]0.02715384[/TD]
[TD]Croatia_MLBA:I18739[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]0.02717567[/TD]
[TD]Croatia_MBA:I24342[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]0.02751251[/TD]
[TD]Croatia_MLBA:I18727[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]0.02796672[/TD]
[TD]Hungary_IA_LaTene:I18529[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]0.02886160[/TD]
[TD]Croatia_EIA:I5725[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]0.02890568[/TD]
[TD]Croatia_EIA:I5729[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0060% / 0.00597023 | ADC: 0.25x RC
19.7 England_MIA
18.0 Slovakia_IA_Vekerzug
14.0 Hungary_IA_LaTene
9.1 Croatia_LIA
8.9 Hungary_LBA
6.9 France_GrandEst_IA2.SG
6.7 Italy_Tuscany_Grosseto_Etruscan
5.1 England_MIA_LIA
4.3 Croatia_MLBA
3.9 Scotland_Orkney_MBA.SG
3.4 Italy_Sardinia_IA_Punic_1

Very good distance! What do your results look like reducing to 5,4, and 3 populations?

qh777 · Jan 7, 2024

LaSentinelle said:
[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TH]Target: Me_scaled
Distance: 0.9680% / 0.00967980[/TH]
[TH][/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]22.4[/TD]
[TD]Lithuania_BA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]20.2[/TD]
[TD]Russia_IA_Ingria.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10.6[/TD]
[TD]Kazakhstan_MLBA_OyDzhaylau[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10.0[/TD]
[TD]Greece_NeaStyra_EBA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]8.8[/TD]
[TD]Latvia_BA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]8.8[/TD]
[TD]Scotland_Skye_IA.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6.0[/TD]
[TD]Estonia_IA.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5.6[/TD]
[TD]Russia_EIA_Sargatka_IA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2.8[/TD]
[TD]Greece_Aposelemis_N[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2.0[/TD]
[TD]Germany_Lech_EBA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1.6[/TD]
[TD]Czech_IA_LaTene[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]0.8[/TD]
[TD]Mongolia_Khovd_MLBAXiongnuLateMedieval[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]0.4[/TD]
[TD]Croatia_MBA_Cetina[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TH]Target: Me_scaled
Distance: 1.3021% / 0.01302135 | R4P | ADC: 0.25x RC[/TH]
[TH][/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]36.0[/TD]
[TD]Russia_IA_Ingria.SG[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]31.0[/TD]
[TD]Kazakhstan_MLBA_OyDzhaylau[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]18.2[/TD]
[TD]Lithuania_BA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]14.8[/TD]
[TD]Greece_Aposelemis_N[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
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Interesting how your Greece/Mediterranean is at 14.8%. That's the equivalent of you having a great grandparent that was 100% Greek.

Ivorix · Jan 7, 2024

qh777 said:
Very good distance! What do your results look like reducing to 5,4, and 3 populations?

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0040% / 0.00401291 | R5P
48.6 England_MIA
20.6 Greece_NeaStyra_EBA
16.2 Italy_Tuscany_Grosseto_Etruscan
9.2 Norway_IA.SG
5.4 Italy_Sardinia_IA_Punic_1

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0043% / 0.00431378 | R4P
62.4 England_MIA
21.4 Greece_NeaStyra_EBA
10.7 Hungary_IA_LaTene
5.5 Italy_Sardinia_IA_Punic_1

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0053% / 0.00525639 | R3P
70.1 England_MIA
25.3 Greece_NeaStyra_EBA
4.6 Italy_Sardinia_IA_Punic_1

Palermo Trapani · Jan 7, 2024

My Top 25 distances:

Distance to:	PT_G25_Ancestry_simulated_g25_scaled
0.03280304	Greece_Mygdalia_LBA.rel:MYG008
0.03319356	Bulgaria_IA:I5769
0.03742501	Greece_Chania_LBA:XAN026
0.03751143	Greece_Mygdalia_LBA.rel:MYG001
0.03754313	Greece_Aidonia_LBA.rel:AID002
0.03819961	Greece_Aidonia_LBA:AID007
0.03834046	Greece_BA_Mycenaean:I19366
0.03850334	Greece_Mygdalia_LBA.rel:MYG006
0.03913230	Greece_BA_Mycenaean:I13514
0.03914532	Greece_Mygdalia_LBA:MYG003
0.04038985	Greece_Logkas_MBA.SG:Log02.SG
0.04045240	Italy_Sardinia_IA_1:I10366
0.04047101	Greece_Chania_LBA:XAN030
0.04098008	Greece_Koukounaries_LBA:KUK001
0.04120322	Macedonia_BA:I7231
0.04192892	Greece_Krousonas_LBA:KRO009
0.04324980	Italy_Sardinia_IA_Punic_2:MSR002
0.04360264	Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_Etruscan:TAQ007
0.04367510	Macedonia_Classical_Hellenistic:I10391
0.04370122	Greece_Tiryns_LBA:TIR002
0.04380375	Macedonia_IA:I7233
0.04418739	Greece_GlykaNera_LBA:GLI003
0.04467643	Slovakia_IA_Vekerzug:I11722
0.04484681	Greece_Koukounaries_LBA:KUK006
0.04497234	Greece_Koukounaries_LBA:KUK005

Model unrestricted:

Target: PT_G25_Ancestry_simulated_g25_scaled Distance: 0.0015% / 0.00151630 \| ADC: 0.25x RC
27.5	Slovakia_IA_Vekerzug

14.2	Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_Etruscan

10.3	Greece_Chania_LBA

9.3	Lebanon_IA3.SG

6.8	Bulgaria_IA

6.5	Macedonia_BA

6.3	Lebanon_EjJaouze_Phoenician.SG

5.2	Macedonia_Classical_Hellenistic_o

4.9	Italy_Sardinia_IA_Punic_2

4.7	Greece_Mygdalia_LBA.rel

2.3	Turkey_IA_o5

2.0	Turkey_Alalakh_MLBA

qh777 · Jan 8, 2024

Stefano said:
Target: StefanoMerged_scaled
Distance: 0.0037% / 0.00374093
17.7 Greece_Chania_LBA
14.9 Hungary_IA_LaTene
10.5 Scotland_Orkney_MBA.SG
8.6 Greece_Aposelemis_LBA
8.1 England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA
6.7 England_MIA_LIA
5.6 France_HautsDeFrance_IA2.SG
5.1 Greece_HgCharalambos_EMBA
5.1 Greece_Koufonisi_Cycladic_EBA.SG
4.3 Greece_NeaStyra_EBA
3.9 Greece_Minoan_Lassithi
2.8 Spain_IA
1.6 Israel_Ashkelon_LBA
1.3 Belize_4900BP
1.3 Netherlands_MBA
0.9 England_NorthYorkshire_EBA.SG
0.8 Turkmenistan_Gonur_BA_1
0.6 France_Occitanie_IA2.SG
0.1 Iran_DinkhaTepe_BA_IA_2
0.1 Russia_Ekven_IA.SG

Target: StefanoMerged_scaled
Distance: 0.0109% / 0.01086916 | R2P
50.4 England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA
49.6 Greece_Chania_LBA

Target: StefanoMerged_scaled
Distance: 0.0091% / 0.00913123 | R3P
50.3 Greece_Chania_LBA
36.0 Czech_EBA_Unetice
13.7 Spain_IA

Target: StefanoMerged_scaled
Distance: 0.0085% / 0.00851733 | R4P
45.7 Greece_Chania_LBA
22.2 England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA
20.5 Hungary_IA_LaTene
11.6 England_NorthYorkshire_EBA.SG

I noticed your G25 coords are labeled as merged. Did you take multiple DNA tests, get multiple raw DNA files turned to G25 coords, and had them all averaged together?

Stefano · Jan 8, 2024

No, i merged the raw data from myheritage, 23andme and Ancestry in a single file using this software https://www.dnagenics.com/dna-kit-studio/
it is free and it doesn't even require installation.
Then i uploaded the merged raw data to illustrativeDna.

qh777 · Jan 8, 2024

That’s cool. I’ve been searching for a way to avg my coords together. Because if you’ve noticed, there is a slight difference between my results of ancestry dna and MyHeritage g25 coords

Stefano · Jan 9, 2024

qh777 said:
That’s cool. I’ve been searching for a way to avg my coords together. Because if you’ve noticed, there is a slight difference between my results of ancestry dna and MyHeritage g25 coords

Using merged raw data should provide higher accuracy because the number of Snp is higher.
Averaging your 2 coordinates won't necessarily give you more accurate results.
Anyway if you want you can calculate the average on this site: https://dna-tools.xyz/

qh777 · Jan 10, 2024

Stefano said:
Using merged raw data should provide higher accuracy because the number of Snp is higher.
Averaging your 2 coordinates won't necessarily give you more accurate results.
Anyway if you want you can calculate the average on this site: https://dna-tools.xyz/

Thanks Stefano! Amazing tool.

Here's what I get with my merged MyHeritage and Ancestrydna G25 coords:

Target: Qh777_MergedMHAncestrydna (25 iterations, 2.1 million models generated in 0.69 s)
1 0.015 53% Scotland_Orkney_IA.SG:KD004.SG + 47% Czech_IA_LaTene:I17321
2 0.016 56% England_EastYorkshire_LIA:I22062 + 44% England_LBA:I12624
3 0.016 72% Scotland_LIA:I3568 + 28% Spain_IA:I3327
4 0.017 62% England_LIA:I12927 + 38% Czech_IA_LaTene:I17321
5 0.017 63% England_MIA:I19912 + 37% Czech_IA_LaTene:I17321
6 0.017 54% Czech_IA_LaTene:I17321 + 46% England_MBA:I16454
7 0.017 52% Czech_IA_LaTene:I14984 + 48% England_MIA_LIA:I20626
8 0.017 70% England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA:I5505 + 30% Czech_IA_LaTene:I20513
9 0.017 79% England_MIA:I14348 + 21% Greece_Mygdalia_LBA.rel:MYG002
10 0.017 58% England_MIA_LIA:I21310 + 42% England_EastYorkshire_EIA:I11033
11 0.017 88% England_EIA:I27382 + 12% Kazakhstan_Sarmatian_IA:SGZ001
12 0.018 56% England_MIA:I19908 + 44% England_MIA:I7632
13 0.018 71% Czech_IA_LaTene:I16273 + 29% France_SouthEast_IA2:I13620
14 0.018 53% England_MIA_LIA:I11994 + 47% England_MIA:I20587
15 0.018 55% England_MIA_LIA:I21312 + 45% England_LIA_o:I14360
16 0.018 62% England_MIA_LIA:I21311 + 38% England_MIA_LIA:I20624
17 0.018 59% England_MBA_lowEEF:I7580 + 41% Croatia_MLBA:I18720
18 0.018 52% England_LBA:I14379 + 48% England_EastYorkshire_EIA:I11033
19 0.018 58% England_MIA:I11156 + 42% England_LBA:I12624
20 0.018 59% England_MBA:I16454 + 41% France_MBA:I10344
21 0.019 63% Scotland_LIA:I3566 + 37% France_SouthEast_IA2:I13620
22 0.019 64% England_EIA:I27383 + 36% England_MIA:I17261
23 0.019 55% England_EastYorkshire_EIA:I11033 + 45% England_MIA:I20589
24 0.019 70% Scotland_MIA_LIA:I2694 + 30% Italy_IA_Republic.SG:R1021.SG
25 0.019 73% England_MIA_LIA:I20622 + 27% Croatia_EIA:I5726

Kenshiro · Jan 10, 2024

Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 0.7096% / 0.00709550 | R5P
29.0Greece_Aposelemis_LBA
24.8Croatia_MLBA
22.8Armenia_LBA_EIA
20.6Italy_Tuscany_Grosseto_Etruscan
2.8Russia_EIA_Sarga
tka_IA

Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 0.8618% / 0.00861798 | R4P
43.6Croatia_MLBA
35.0Greece_Aposelemis_LBA
17.4Armenia_LBA_EIA
4.0Russia_EIA_Sargatka_IA

Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 1.0195% / 0.01019532 | R3P
49.0Greece_Minoan_Lassithi
32.2Czech_EBA_Unetice
18.8Armenia_LBA_EIA

Kari · Jan 10, 2024

Target: Konstantinos_Karagiannis Distance: 0.1033% / 0.00103298 \| R5P
41.4	Greece_Chania_LBA

19.6	Latvia_BA

16.6	Armenia_IA_oSouth

13.8	England_MIA_LIA

8.6	Greece_MiddleMinoan

qh777 · Jan 11, 2024

Kari said:
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Distance: 0.1033% / 0.00103298 | R5P[/TH]

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[TD]Greece_Chania_LBA[/TD]
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[TD]19.6[/TD]
[TD]Latvia_BA[/TD]
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[TD]16.6[/TD]
[TD]Armenia_IA_oSouth[/TD]
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[TD]13.8[/TD]
[TD]England_MIA_LIA[/TD]
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13.8% England_MIA_LIA interesting.

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