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qh777

qh777

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English, Scottish, Irish, French, German, Belgian
Y-DNA haplogroup
J2/J-M67/ J2a1b
mtDNA haplogroup
H/ H1/H1ao
Using average coords to keep the list small and postable.
Code: 
French_Bearn,0.1267991,0.1448145,0.0535889,0.0060078,0.0539486,0.0021754,-0.001692,-0.0020537,0.024461,0.0398913,-0.0088665,0.0102359,-0.0189989,-0.0143265,0.0141693,0.001578,-0.0057238,-0.0008996,-0.0017346,-0.0033017,0.0054653,0.0031407,-0.0066429,-0.0081696,0.0006825
French_Bigorre,0.1280511,0.1473535,0.052269,0.0053295,0.0522249,-0.0008365,-0.0016685,0.0001617,0.0248088,0.0382695,-0.0030854,0.007883,-0.0214815,-0.0141476,0.0087403,0.0001856,-0.0035596,0.0023691,-0.0008926,-0.0029139,0.0025082,-0.0008902,-0.0032908,-0.0059043,0.0010298
French_Brittany,0.1314657,0.1383406,0.0578504,0.0392849,0.0391688,0.0158131,0.0031549,0.0042114,0.008186,0.0094899,-0.0051314,0.00559,-0.014368,-0.0131017,0.0183426,0.0043987,-0.0073016,0.0012795,-0.000462,0.0017727,0.0044671,0.0017868,-0.001254,0.0105465,0.0006586
French_Chalosse,0.1287339,0.1477596,0.0518917,0.0111758,0.0513326,0.0027611,0.00047,0.0017769,0.0252587,0.0396544,-0.0026958,0.008947,-0.0203367,-0.0150834,0.0110884,0.0028241,-0.0054241,0.0016723,-0.0007794,-0.0022384,0.0082731,0.002844,-0.0076906,-0.0076635,-0.0020956
French_Corsica,0.1203273,0.1518216,0.0195294,-0.0230022,0.0350394,-0.0100401,-0.0018464,-0.0005604,0.0157044,0.0337918,-0.0006031,0.0074612,-0.0132308,-0.0071074,-0.004537,-0.0005968,0.0040419,0.0012489,0.0024511,-0.0030461,-0.0003923,0.0002474,-0.0025793,-0.0013858,-0.0005303
French_Nord,0.1282752,0.1405432,0.0513571,0.0256051,0.0382728,0.0088906,0.0010967,0.0044194,0.008373,0.0120166,-0.003484,0.0040328,-0.0108613,-0.0081823,0.0111991,0.0025432,-0.0046069,0.0022266,0.0040947,0.0010308,0.0021327,0.0015249,-0.0015724,0.0074707,1.45e-05
French_Occitanie,0.1270391,0.1448823,0.048879,0.0179086,0.0433756,0.0034164,0.0005222,0.0038909,0.0148564,0.0235894,-0.0032883,0.0065816,-0.0150436,-0.0094578,0.010737,0.0025671,-0.0037088,0.0024846,0.0014247,4.52e-05,0.0036706,0.0024456,-0.0025505,0.0017673,0.0004224
French_Paris,0.1271714,0.1414355,0.0504313,0.0239901,0.0409027,0.0093048,0.0027985,0.0054544,0.0116022,0.0181739,-0.0077061,0.0068121,-0.0129065,-0.0103844,0.0137695,0.0060631,-0.0018255,0.0046644,0.0027082,-0.0009778,0.0022007,0.0035747,-0.0012325,0.0111405,-0.0019051
French_Pas-de-Calais,0.1278613,0.140482,0.0543053,0.026809,0.0421617,0.0127363,0.0041517,0.0013073,0.0085217,0.0124527,-0.0080113,0.002198,-0.0100097,-0.012019,0.0136627,0.008132,-0.000478,0.001816,-0.003645,0.004252,0.0099827,0.0014427,-0.002547,0.0059043,-0.001437
French_Provence,0.1219247,0.1438468,0.0368914,0.005358,0.0368574,0.0023296,0.0022671,0.0036379,0.0100577,0.0204533,-0.0038687,0.0072112,-0.0121376,-0.0109614,0.0059557,0.0031744,0.0010967,0.0028095,0.0017746,-0.0015155,0.0015414,0.0027349,0.0003552,0.0054435,3.52e-05
French_Seine-Maritime,0.1360185,0.1370965,0.0452545,0.0295545,0.039084,0.0167335,0.00423,-0.000692,0.003988,0.006014,-0.003735,0.0074935,-0.0075815,-0.0016515,0.0142505,0.0035135,-0.0079535,-0.002344,0.0009425,-0.0050025,0.0039305,0.0055025,0.000863,0.0042775,-0.0044905
French_South,0.1261811,0.1447856,0.0496183,0.0088594,0.0506907,0.0026694,0.0002686,0.0022747,0.0276401,0.0386601,-0.0067741,0.0073649,-0.021853,-0.0135659,0.0103729,0.0027653,-0.0051034,0.0017917,0.0002154,0.0019116,0.0049911,-0.0008301,-0.0052646,-0.0075569,-0.00142
 
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Here's what I get.


Distance to:qh777_ancestrydna_scaled
0.01987113French_Brittany
0.02503102French_Pas-de-Calais
0.02761862French_Nord
0.02793884French_Paris
0.03389122French_Seine-Maritime
0.03877766French_Occitanie
0.04936035French_Provence
0.05754233French_Chalosse
0.05909890French_South
0.05957635French_Bearn
0.06110087French_Bigorre
0.08935220French_Corsica

Distance to:qh777_myheritage_scaled
0.01940879French_Brittany
0.02669027French_Pas-de-Calais
0.02755057French_Paris
0.02763310French_Nord
0.03383758French_Seine-Maritime
0.03869916French_Occitanie
0.04898447French_Provence
0.05771476French_Chalosse
0.05900413French_South
0.05984508French_Bearn
0.06063680French_Bigorre
0.08902248French_Corsica

Target: qh777_ancestrydna_scaled
Distance: 0.0193% / 0.01931571
76.6French_Brittany
18.4French_Pas-de-Calais
5.0French_Paris


Target: qh777_myheritage_scaled
Distance: 0.0190% / 0.01901837
83.7French_Brittany
16.3French_Paris
 
Results with individuals:

Distance to:qh777_ancestrydna_scaled
0.02333276French_Brittany:Rennes_B_95
0.02375792French_Brittany:Rennes_B_16
0.02421897French_Brittany:Rennes_B_48
0.02487385French_Brittany:Rennes_B_46
0.02497607French_Nord:N_19
0.02590455French_Brittany:Rennes_B_23
0.02665119French_Brittany:Rennes_B_32
0.02696861French_Brittany:Rennes_B_12
0.02721450French_Brittany:Rennes_B_14
0.02735548French_Brittany:Rennes_B_85
0.02758140French_Brittany:Rennes_B_27
0.02758849French_Paris:1_2
0.02762792French_Brittany:Rennes_B_44
0.02770600French_Brittany:Rennes_B_4
0.02796723French_Brittany:Rennes_B_82
0.02830379French_Occitanie:T_70
0.02835219French_Nord:N_48
0.02862997French_Brittany:Rennes_B_61
0.02883909French_Paris:19
0.02888221French_Pas-de-Calais:French23862
0.02932658French_Brittany:French24090
0.02940716French_Brittany:Rennes_B_47
0.02965171French_Brittany:French23830
0.02972110French_Brittany:Rennes_B_28
0.02995444French_Nord:N_2

Distance to:qh777_myheritage_scaled
0.02159194French_Brittany:Rennes_B_16
0.02264562French_Brittany:Rennes_B_46
0.02411820French_Paris:1_2
0.02414557French_Brittany:Rennes_B_48
0.02477076French_Brittany:Rennes_B_95
0.02493401French_Brittany:Rennes_B_23
0.02508719French_Brittany:Rennes_B_12
0.02566260French_Nord:N_19
0.02650533French_Brittany:Rennes_B_82
0.02686427French_Brittany:Rennes_B_14
0.02728034French_Brittany:Rennes_B_32
0.02734481French_Brittany:Rennes_B_85
0.02740476French_Brittany:Rennes_B_27
0.02755182French_Brittany:Rennes_B_44
0.02764354French_Brittany:Rennes_B_61
0.02775202French_Brittany:French24090
0.02799027French_Brittany:Rennes_B_4
0.02831992French_Paris:19
0.02848318French_Occitanie:T_70
0.02892413French_Brittany:Rennes_B_31
0.02905892French_Alsace:A_79
0.02925159French_Brittany:Rennes_B_28
0.02970006French_Nord:N_48
0.03011633French_Brittany:Rennes_B_8
0.03011958French_Nord:N_2

Target: qh777_ancestrydna_scaled
Distance: 0.0127% / 0.01271283
74.8French_Brittany
9.9French_Nord
7.1French_Auvergne
3.9French_Bearn
3.3French_Alsace
1.0French_Paris


Target: qh777_myheritage_scaled
Distance: 0.0122% / 0.01222351
78.0French_Brittany
9.1French_Alsace
8.0French_Paris
2.8French_Nord
2.1French_Bearn

Distance to:qh777_ancestrydna_scaled
0.0169690956.80% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_48 + 43.20% French_Nord:N_48
0.0170081848.00% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_48 + 52.00% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_95
0.0173069059.20% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_48 + 40.80% French_Pas-de-Calais:French24690
0.0177427243.80% French_Alsace:A_25 + 56.20% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_14
0.0179693442.20% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_14 + 57.80% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_95
0.0180948158.20% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_48 + 41.80% French_Paris:19
0.0181711150.40% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_12 + 49.60% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_14
0.0184398241.00% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_27 + 59.00% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_95
0.0184962262.20% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_46 + 37.80% French_Nord:N_98
0.0185072929.40% French_Alsace:A_51 + 70.60% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_48
0.0185114643.20% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_44 + 56.80% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_48
0.0187514532.60% French_Alsace:A_35 + 67.40% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_16
0.0187564060.40% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_95 + 39.60% French_Occitanie:T_70
0.0187673149.60% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_27 + 50.40% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_85
0.0188797152.60% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_14 + 47.40% French_Paris:19
0.0189579037.20% French_Auvergne:C_18 + 62.80% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_14
0.0189758243.60% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_14 + 56.40% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_48
0.0189834039.80% French_Brittany:French23833 + 60.20% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_12
0.0190820361.60% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_16 + 38.40% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_28
0.0190958140.00% French_Brittany:French24400 + 60.00% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_12
0.0190975563.80% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_14 + 36.20% French_Paris:61_2
0.0191037254.40% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_14 + 45.60% French_Pas-de-Calais:French24690
0.0191216251.40% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_16 + 48.60% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_48
0.0191476170.60% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_95 + 29.40% French_Occitanie:T_64
0.0191747337.60% French_Alsace:A_79 + 62.40% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_48

Distance to:qh777_myheritage_scaled
0.0164456152.80% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_12 + 47.20% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_14
0.0170487363.80% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_16 + 36.20% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_31
0.0170883564.20% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_16 + 35.80% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_28
0.0171145966.40% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_46 + 33.60% French_Nord:N_98
0.0172280938.80% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_31 + 61.20% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_46
0.0174119959.60% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_48 + 40.40% French_Pas-de-Calais:French24690
0.0174609338.40% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_14 + 61.60% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_16
0.0174695328.40% French_Alsace:A_35 + 71.60% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_16
0.0175891249.60% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_12 + 50.40% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_23
0.0176303057.00% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_16 + 43.00% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_48
0.0176483441.20% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_14 + 58.80% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_46
0.0176488361.40% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_16 + 38.60% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_82
0.0176763830.80% French_Alsace:A_51 + 69.20% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_48
0.0176875357.40% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_48 + 42.60% French_Paris:19
0.0177579350.00% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_48 + 50.00% French_Paris:1_2
0.0177821941.60% French_Alsace:A_79 + 58.40% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_48
0.0178520859.40% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_48 + 40.60% French_Nord:N_48
0.0179182763.60% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_16 + 36.40% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_61
0.0179521351.40% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_48 + 48.60% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_95
0.0181606459.40% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_16 + 40.60% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_23
0.0181826727.00% French_Alsace:A_51 + 73.00% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_46
0.0181840471.40% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_16 + 28.60% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_6
0.0182319652.40% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_14 + 47.60% French_Paris:19
0.0182345627.00% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_10 + 73.00% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_16
0.0183066567.60% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_16 + 32.40% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_8
 

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I'm closer to the Southern French.

With average coords.
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Distances.
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With individuals, aggregate.
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With no aggregation.
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Distances.
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Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% French_Bearn:1698 + 50% French_Provence:S_5 @ 1,636
2 50% French_Provence-provance2708 + 50% French_Bearn:1698 @ 1,677
3 50% French_Bearn:1698 + 50% French_Provence:S_34 @ 1,683
4 50% French_Provence:S_20 + 50% French_Auvergne:C_31 @ 1,713
5 50% French_Corsica:corsica11908 + 50% French_Auvergne:C_31 @ 1,725
6 50% French_Corsica:corsica11908 + 50% French_Bearn:1698 @ 1,726
7 50% French_Bigorre:1112 + 50% French_Provence:S_34 @ 1,764
8 50% French_Provence-provance2708 + 50% French_Occitanie:T_57 @ 1,796
9 50% French_Auvergne:C_31 + 50% French_Provence-provance2708 @ 1,802
10 50% French_Corsica:CorsicaS00708 + 50% French_Auvergne:C_31 @ 1,811
 
That’s about what I expected from an Iberian. I’ve seen in other tests people from Italy/Spain/Portugal get assigned southern French on occasion. As for me I may share what I get without the Breton samples. The fit is good because of my British ancestry and the relationship Brittany has had with Britain in earlier times.
 
In first results It calculates me as a Corsican, with a secondary share of Normandy/Manica

Distance to:G25_Stuvanè_scaled
0.03611197French_Corsica
0.04864994French_Provence
0.06261084French_Occitanie
0.06639567French_Bigorre
0.06834854French_South
0.06881246French_Nord
0.07086000French_Chalosse
0.07112313French_Bearn
0.07114461French_Paris
0.07438215French_Seine-Maritime
0.07843128French_Pas-de-Calais
0.08750083French_Brittany



Target: G25_Stuvanè_scaled
Distance: 0.0337% / 0.03372051
83.7French_Corsica
16.3French_Seine-Maritime

Distance to:G25_Stuvanè_scaled
0.0337205883.60% French_Corsica + 16.40% French_Seine-Maritime
0.0344356184.60% French_Corsica + 15.40% French_Nord
0.0349492610.20% French_Brittany + 89.80% French_Corsica
0.0350440479.40% French_Corsica + 20.60% French_Provence
0.0354324289.80% French_Corsica + 10.20% French_Paris
0.0355182688.80% French_Corsica + 11.20% French_Occitanie
0.0355763391.80% French_Corsica + 8.20% French_Pas-de-Calais
0.0624073818.20% French_Bigorre + 81.80% French_Occitanie
0.0634098066.40% French_Bigorre + 33.60% French_Seine-Maritime
0.0634409557.60% French_Bigorre + 42.40% French_Nord
0.0647732448.40% French_Nord + 51.60% French_South
0.0650443836.80% French_Seine-Maritime + 63.20% French_South
0.0650669668.60% French_Bigorre + 31.40% French_Paris
0.0656256943.00% French_Bearn + 57.00% French_Nord
0.0660284943.00% French_Chalosse + 57.00% French_Nord
0.0661238587.60% French_Bigorre + 12.40% French_Pas-de-Calais
0.0663882598.20% French_Bigorre + 1.80% French_Brittany
0.0665571257.00% French_Bearn + 43.00% French_Seine-Maritime
0.0666265238.00% French_Paris + 62.00% French_South
0.0668743258.20% French_Chalosse + 41.80% French_Seine-Maritime
0.0677932150.00% French_Bearn + 50.00% French_Paris
0.0680322114.40% French_Pas-de-Calais + 85.60% French_South
0.0680884051.20% French_Chalosse + 48.80% French_Paris
0.068340861.80% French_Brittany + 98.20% French_South
0.0700163673.80% French_Bearn + 26.20% French_Pas-de-Calais
 
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0128% / 0.01280724
40.1French_Provence
26.2French_Pas-de-Calais
18.4French_Corsica
5.9French_Paris
5.2French_South
4.2French_Bearn
 

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Here's what I get when I take out the French_Brittany samples.

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qh777 said:
That’s about what I expected from an Iberian. I’ve seen in other tests people from Italy/Spain/Portugal get assigned southern French on occasion. As for me I may share what I get without the Breton samples. The fit is good because of my British ancestry and the relationship Brittany has had with Britain in earlier times.
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The IllustrativeDNA maps reflect this genetic connection well. There is genetic continuity between Iberia, the South of France and the North of Italy, reflected in my case.
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And in your case between the North of France, especially Brittany, and Great Britain, between Northwest Europe in general.
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This is when it's set at 10

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And then 50:

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Distance to:Dorquest_scaled
0.03093087French_Brittany
0.03298485French_Seine-Maritime
0.03606910French_Nord
0.03906411French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04094450French_Paris
0.04744662French_Occitanie
0.05875010French_Provence
0.06593584French_Chalosse
0.06789807French_South
0.06856602French_Bigorre
0.06891480French_Bearn
0.09576219French_Corsica



Target: Dorquest_scaled
Distance: 2.9097% / 0.02909700
59.6French_Brittany
40.4French_Seine-Maritime



Top 30
Distance to:Dorquest_scaled
0.02567943French_Brittany:Rennes_B_6
0.02675729French_Brittany:Rennes_B_98
0.02754385French_Nord:N_22
0.02798225French_Brittany:Rennes_B_8
0.02800669French_Brittany:French24120
0.02908914French_Brittany:Rennes_B_78
0.02940984French_Occitanie:T_112
0.03203990French_Brittany:Rennes_B_47
0.03256361French_Brittany:Rennes_B_82
0.03257894French_Brittany:Rennes_B_23
0.03324466French_Brittany:French23833
0.03332695French_Nord:N_52
0.03375412French_Brittany:Rennes_B_20
0.03390949French_Seine-Maritime:French24408
0.03394127French_Occitanie:T_64
0.03430390French_Brittany:Rennes_B_29
0.03517962French_Brittany:Rennes_B_10
0.03564848French_Alsace:A_10
0.03595186French_Brittany:Rennes_B_11
0.03624757French_Occitanie:T_67
0.03635197French_Occitanie:T_70
0.03639740French_Alsace:A_58_2
0.03671980French_Alsace:A_5
0.03675716French_Nord:N_21_2
0.03676333French_Alsace:A_60
0.03724594French_Nord:N_19
0.03725056French_Brittany:French24090
0.03761003French_Brittany:Rennes_B_61
0.03769140French_Occitanie:T_65
0.03780147French_Brittany:Rennes_B_95



Target: Dorquest_scaled
Distance: 1.8735% / 0.01873490
47.2French_Brittany
22.4French_Occitanie
13.4French_Seine-Maritime
10.2French_Nord
6.6French_Alsace
0.2French_Auvergne
 
qh777 said:
I find it interesting that Galicia is highlighted on this map
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Galicians have some Celtic ancestry. The northwest of Iberia was inhabited by some Celtic tribes.
And in 6th century many Britons from Great Britain fled to Galicia to escape the Germanic invasions.
So there is a connection.

Here's mine, set to 10.

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Set to 50.

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Tautalus said:
Galicians have some Celtic ancestry. The northwest of Iberia was inhabited by some Celtic tribes.
And in 6th century many Britons from Great Britain fled to Galicia to escape the Germanic invasions.
So there is a connection.

Here's mine, set to 10.

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Set to 50.

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Mine

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French samples + other

All sample (from my personal database) You can sort the sims from the non-sims, then sort those which have a Basque and Breton contribution, then keep only those which are strictly French. French: https://pastebin.com/eQNQtMz9 Acadians (all sim) https://pastebin.com/CkdNmFQ6 Other...
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Target: SouthEasternFrench(94%04BassesAlpes6%Gard)
Distance: 0.9534% / 0.00953437
28.0French_Nord
27.8French_Occitanie
25.0French_Bigorre
16.4French_Seine-Maritime
2.8French_Corsica


Target: FatherNorthernFrenchPicardie
Distance: 2.5535% / 0.02553484
66.0French_Brittany
20.4French_Bearn
13.6French_Seine-Maritime
 
PCA with Brittany France samples:

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Without Breton samples:

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