G25 G25 Modern (Over 10,000 Individuals)

qh777

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English, Scottish, Irish, French, German, Belgian
Y-DNA haplogroup
J2/J-M67/ J2a1b
mtDNA haplogroup
H/ H1/H1ao
As mentioned in the title the list contains 10,423 modern scaled individuals. I had a list that had over 9,000 modern, but Duarte shared with me this list.
As a reminder I have obtained new G25 coordinates from merging 4 of my raw DNA files (Ancestry, 23&Me v4, 23&Me v5, MyHeritage) and uploading to Illustrativedna.

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Distance to:MatthewLindeman_scaled
0.02347045BelgianA:5434289051_R01C01
0.02347206BelgianA:5434289001_R02C02
0.02391066German:German25
0.02437094English_Cornwall:HG00239
0.02467143BelgianA:5434289041_R02C01
0.02468160English_Cornwall:HG00235
0.02513270French_Brittany:Rennes_B_6
0.02541895English_Cornwall:HG00252
0.02580641BelgianA:5434289041_R03C01
0.02647783Orcadian:HGDP00800
0.02648641Orcadian:HGDP00798
0.02665323Dutch:GSM567027
0.02666041English:HG02215
0.02669898Welsh:WalesL42
0.02691776Irish:Irish58
0.02703028Scottish:Scottish9
0.02749387Scottish:Scottish14
0.02752074Dutch:GSM1633931
0.02755855French_Brittany:Rennes_B_11
0.02758845Welsh:WalesDR84
0.02759894Welsh:WalesL40
0.02761937English_Cornwall:HG00259
0.02781664Danish:495
0.02788079French_Brittany:Rennes_B_23
0.02792508Dutch:GSM567110
 
merged 3 of my files for results below

Distance to: Vitore_G25_scaled
0.01243383 Italian_Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont127
0.01432492 Italian_Northeast:KF1800761
0.01656607 Italian_Veneto:ALP250
0.01740739 Italian_Northeast:ALP346
0.01768532 Italian_Veneto:ALP022
0.01836418 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige:ALP395
0.01856936 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige:ALP420
0.01861382 French_Corsica:corsica11908
0.01876652 Italian_Lombardy:ALP288
0.01902136 Italian_Bergamo:HGDP01147
0.01904978 Italian_Veneto:KF1800751
0.01908640 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige:ALP259
0.01954792 Italian_Veneto:ALP273
0.02010282 Italian_Northeast:KF1803129
0.02011575 Italian_Piedmont:piedmont61
0.02015219 Italian_Veneto:Alp401
0.02031698 Italian_Veneto:Alp100
0.02086659 Italian_Northeast:ALP233
0.02099353 French_Provence:provance2508
0.02118766 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige:ALP200
0.02140458 Italian_Veneto:ALP322
0.02143124 Italian_Bergamo:HGDP01153
0.02150947 French_Provence:S_20
0.02192825 Italian_Veneto:KF1803109
0.02194385 Italian_Veneto:ALP209
 
Target: Vitore_G25_scaled
Distance: 0.0012% / 0.00119654 | ADC: 0.25x RC
23.3 Italian_Piedmont
19.4 Italian_Northeast
17.5 Italian_Veneto
16.8 Italian_Lombardy
7.3 Swiss_German
6.3 Italian_Friuli_Venezia_Giulia_Sappada
5.7 Spanish_Eivissa
3.7 French_Nord
 
Distance to:Dorquest_scaled
0.02536519English_Cornwall:HG00239
0.02567943French_Brittany:Rennes_B_6
0.02583204BelgianA:5434289041_R02C01
0.02589912English:HG02215
0.02592423Afrikaner:AFR086
0.02612527BelgianA:5434289041_R03C01
0.02635571BelgianA:5434289051_R01C01
0.02655610BelgianA:5434289001_R02C02
0.02656734Dutch:GSM1634024
0.02659953Danish:495
0.02675729French_Brittany:Rennes_B_98
0.02701228Dutch:GSM1634000
0.02710707Dutch:GSM1634003
0.02736057German_Erlangen:GSM1658607
0.02736700Welsh:WalesL42
0.02744569German:German78
0.02748301English:English1
0.02750519English_Cornwall:HG00261
0.02754385French_Nord:N_22
0.02755824Welsh:WalesBK54
0.02772819English_Cornwall:HG00235
0.02798225French_Brittany:Rennes_B_8
0.02798481Dutch:GSM1633954
0.02800669French_Brittany:French24120
0.02810416Welsh:WalesBK21
0.02816104Dutch:GSM567027
0.02832039BelgianA:5434289041_R05C01
0.02856254BelgianB:5434289051_R06C02
0.02867318Dutch:GSM567110
0.02875777Danish:GSM1985825
0.02882717Danish:GSM1985817
0.02892764BelgianB:5434289001_R01C02
0.02896309Dutch:GSM567341
0.02897174German:GRC10044050_German12
0.02898325Welsh:WalesDR84



Target: Dorquestscaled
Distance: 1.3297% / 0.01329686 | R5P
37.8Irish
29.0German
13.2Danish
10.6Portuguese
9.4German_Hamburg



Target: Dorquest_scaled
Distance: 1.3482% / 0.01348247 | R4P
47.2Irish
32.8German
11.0German_Hamburg
9.0Portuguese



Target: Dorquest_scaled
Distance: 1.3877% / 0.01387657 | R3P
47.0Irish
45.6German
7.4Portuguese
 
Distance to:MatthewLindeman_scaled
0.02347045BelgianA:5434289051_R01C01
0.02347206BelgianA:5434289001_R02C02
0.02391066German:German25
0.02437094English_Cornwall:HG00239
0.02467143BelgianA:5434289041_R02C01
0.02468160English_Cornwall:HG00235
0.02513270French_Brittany:Rennes_B_6
0.02541895English_Cornwall:HG00252
0.02580641BelgianA:5434289041_R03C01
0.02647783Orcadian:HGDP00800
0.02648641Orcadian:HGDP00798
0.02665323Dutch:GSM567027
0.02666041English:HG02215
0.02669898Welsh:WalesL42
0.02691776Irish:Irish58
0.02703028Scottish:Scottish9
0.02749387Scottish:Scottish14
0.02752074Dutch:GSM1633931
0.02755855French_Brittany:Rennes_B_11
0.02758845Welsh:WalesDR84
0.02759894Welsh:WalesL40
0.02761937English_Cornwall:HG00259
0.02781664Danish:495
0.02788079French_Brittany:Rennes_B_23
0.02792508Dutch:GSM567110
What do your other results look like on Vahaduo?
 
What do your other results look like on Vahaduo?
You mean like the "Single"?
Target: MatthewLindeman_scaled
Distance: 0.9701% / 0.00970134
37.2Irish
15.6Norwegian
12.0German
7.8Basque_Soule
7.6German_Hamburg
5.0Lithuanian_VZ
3.8Basque_Araba
3.4Basque_Biscay
3.2Georgian_Megr
2.8Dutch
1.4Georgian_Svaneti
0.2Danish
 
Distance to:OminoG25_scaled
0.01727080Greek_Elis:IL-22
0.01773414Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE126
0.01807015Greek_Argolis:ARGO-2
0.01947516Greek_West_Taygetos:MMA-3
0.01977299Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE162
0.01981478Greek_Arcadia:ARKA-2
0.01988767Greek_Elis:IL-14
0.02000903Greek_Laconia:LA-36
0.02025920Greek_Messenia:MES-4
0.02070393Greek_East_Taygetos:LA-6
0.02078630Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP4
0.02125411Greek_Elis:IL-15
0.02127822Greek_Laconia:LA-2
0.02131791Greek_Elis:IL-17
0.02135869Greek_Achaea:AHA-5
0.02156427Greek_Corinthia:KOR-26
0.02166086Greek_Achaea:AHA-16
0.02178120Greek_East_Taygetos:LA-11
0.02193638Albanian:North1
0.02198060Greek_Arcadia:ARKA-8
0.02203540Greek_Messenia:MES-8
0.02220904Greek_Argolis:ARGO-8
0.02221626Greek_Elis:IL-9
0.02226720Greek_Laconia:LA-28
0.02280189Greek_Arcadia:ARKA-19


Target: OminoG25_scaled
Distance: 0.0103% / 0.01030651 | R2P
76.0Greek_Argolis
24.0Greek_Central_Macedonia



Target: OminoG25_scaled
Distance: 0.0090% / 0.00902674 | R3P
49.9Greek_Argolis
33.6Greek_Central_Macedonia
16.5Greek_Crete
 
You mean like the "Single"?
Target: MatthewLindeman_scaled
Distance: 0.9701% / 0.00970134
37.2Irish
15.6Norwegian
12.0German
7.8Basque_Soule
7.6German_Hamburg
5.0Lithuanian_VZ
3.8Basque_Araba
3.4Basque_Biscay
3.2Georgian_Megr
2.8Dutch
1.4Georgian_Svaneti
0.2Danish
Yep and when you reduce to 7,5,4 etc.
 
Holy mother of Mutts... :p

Target: Dmitry_scaled
Distance: 0.4341% / 0.00434085
17.4Russian_Pskov
15.0Polish
12.8Swedish
12.2Hungarian
9.0Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
8.4Vepsian
7.0Lithuanian_SZ
4.8Dutch
4.2Serbian
2.4Mari
1.6Scottish
1.2Mansi
1.0Chuvash
0.8Ket_o1
0.6Berber_MAR_ERR
0.6Selkup
0.4Finnish_Southwest
0.4Irish
0.2German_East


Target: Dmitry_scaled
Distance: 0.5925% / 0.00592513 | ADC: 0.25x RC
19.6Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
17.0Russian_Krasnoborsky
12.2Vepsian
11.6Finnish_Southwest
10.8Hungarian
9.8Polish
8.6Moldovan
8.0Swedish
1.2Russian_Kursk
1.2Russian_Ryazan


Target: Dmitry_scaled
Distance: 0.6436% / 0.00643647 | R4P | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.6Polish
26.6Russian_Pskov
17.4Scottish
11.4Khanty_o1
 
Holy mother of Mutts... :p

Target: Dmitry_scaled
Distance: 0.4341% / 0.00434085
17.4Russian_Pskov
15.0Polish
12.8Swedish
12.2Hungarian
9.0Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
8.4Vepsian
7.0Lithuanian_SZ
4.8Dutch
4.2Serbian
2.4Mari
1.6Scottish
1.2Mansi
1.0Chuvash
0.8Ket_o1
0.6Berber_MAR_ERR
0.6Selkup
0.4Finnish_Southwest
0.4Irish
0.2German_East


Target: Dmitry_scaled
Distance: 0.5925% / 0.00592513 | ADC: 0.25x RC
19.6Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
17.0Russian_Krasnoborsky
12.2Vepsian
11.6Finnish_Southwest
10.8Hungarian
9.8Polish
8.6Moldovan
8.0Swedish
1.2Russian_Kursk
1.2Russian_Ryazan


Target: Dmitry_scaled
Distance: 0.6436% / 0.00643647 | R4P | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.6Polish
26.6Russian_Pskov
17.4Scottish
11.4Khanty_o1
Do you get the same results without ADC?
 
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0000% / 0.00003102 | R7P
38.4 Italian_Aosta_Valley
34.2 German
9.7 Sardinian
8.9 Spanish_Cantabria
4.1 French_South
2.5 Moroccan_North
2.2 Spanish_Eivissa
 
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0000% / 0.00003102 | R7P
38.4 Italian_Aosta_Valley
34.2 German
9.7 Sardinian
8.9 Spanish_Cantabria
4.1 French_South
2.5 Moroccan_North
2.2 Spanish_Eivissa
What do you get when you reduce further?
 
Distance to:TheHolyGoose_AncestryDNA_scaled
0.01577825English_Cornwall:HG00252
0.01922815English_Cornwall:HG00239
0.01986359Scottish:Scottish22
0.02066810BelgianA:5434289051_R01C01
0.02091863Welsh:WalesDR56
0.02113021Dutch:GSM1634000
0.02123334English:HG02215
0.02158958Orcadian:HGDP00800
0.02170681English_Cornwall:HG00235
0.02182660English:HG01789
0.02228053Danish:GSM1985817
0.02231387Welsh:WalesL42
0.02249179BelgianB:5434289051_R06C02
0.02253386Scottish:Scottish24
0.02266304English_Cornwall:HG00259
0.02269807Dutch:GSM1633970
0.02289581English_Cornwall:HG00261
0.02290190BelgianA:5434289041_R02C01
0.02296644Scottish:Scottish11
0.02298006Welsh:WalesL86
0.02306912Dutch:GSM1634035
0.02313810English:English1
0.02327859French_Brittany:French24120
0.02328859Danish:GSM1985812
0.02331820Shetlandic:Shetlands3

Target: TheHolyGoose_AncestryDNA_scaled
Distance: 0.4585% / 0.00458499 | R5P
40.6Irish
33.0Dutch
10.8French_Auvergne
10.4English_Cornwall
5.2German

Target: TheHolyGoose_AncestryDNA_scaled
Distance: 0.4706% / 0.00470559 | R4P
46.6Irish
33.2Dutch
12.4French_Auvergne
7.8German

Target: TheHolyGoose_AncestryDNA_scaled
Distance: 0.4932% / 0.00493224 | R3P
46.6Irish
39.8Dutch
13.6French_Auvergne
 
Top 50 Distances < 0.025
Distance to:PT_G25_Ancestry_simulated_g25_scaled
0.01713239Italian_Campania:NaN119AMR
0.01776527Greek_Deep_Mani:ARE-7
0.01840726Greek_Laconia:639
0.01874231Italian_Apulia:cera8
0.01888596Italian_Campania:NaN43TC
0.01932576Italian_Apulia:cera9
0.01963174Italian_Basilicata:pG20
0.01964434Italian_Calabria:ALP596
0.01974334Greek_Deep_Mani:ARE-39
0.01999295Italian_Lazio:NOR28
0.02047439Sicilian_East:EastSicilian2H
0.02087089Italian_Basilicata:pG19
0.02091560Greek_Laconia:LA-24
0.02149438Greek_Deep_Mani:ARE-11
0.02159806Greek_Izmir:GreeceF51k
0.02160112Italian_Abruzzo:ALP205
0.02174661Greek_Deep_Mani:ARE-23
0.02200174Greek_South_Tsakonia:TSAK-1
0.02224918Italian_Campania:NaN238DM
0.02226940Italian_Calabria:pG2012_424
0.02227362Italian_Abruzzo:ItalyAbruzzo22
0.02245698Greek_Deep_Mani:ARE-15
0.02254037Italian_Abruzzo:Alp380
0.02254705Italian_Apulia:pu3
0.02273719Italian_Campania:NaN289RM
0.02281146Italian_Basilicata:pG18
0.02284391Italian_Campania:NaN212CR
0.02304390Italian_Abruzzo:Alp162
0.02326530Italian_Campania:CMP_b007_2
0.02329825Italian_Apulia:pu7
0.02337302Greek_Deep_Mani:ARE-10
0.02344557Italian_Abruzzo:Alp616
0.02353511Italian_Basilicata:pG17
0.02356284Italian_Basilicata:pG25
0.02356339Greek_Apulia:puG17
0.02382436Italian_Marche:MarACO100D
0.02392702Italian_Basilicata:pG24
0.02394909Greek_Laconia:LA-70
0.02410880Sicilian_East:EastSicilian8H
0.02429385Italian_Basilicata:pG16
0.02430576Italian_Apulia:ALP379
0.02441848Greek_Izmir:GreeceSmyrna30
0.02441971Italian_Abruzzo:ItalyAbruzzo15
0.02482137Italian_Abruzzo:ItalyAbruzzo16
0.02484722Italian_Basilicata:pG21
0.02488643Italian_Apulia:ITS7
0.02498739Italian_Umbria:pG03
0.02507645Italian_Abruzzo:ItalyAbruzzo19
0.02512626Italian_Molise:pG27
0.02522220Italian_Campania:CMP_b008_2


Target: PT_G25_Ancestry_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.0021% / 0.00206138 | R3P | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.0Italian_Campania
36.2Greek_Crete
11.8Sardinian
 
If I hit the run all button a few times I do get slightly better fit numbers:

First reduce 4:

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Other reduce 4 runs:

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First reduce 7:

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New R7P:

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What do you get when you reduce further?

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0001% / 0.00006388 | R5P
39.3Italian_Aosta_Valley
37.8German
11.1Sardinian
8.2Basque_French
3.6Moroccan_North
 

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@qh777

use the top one in link below for 2 way split

I use Vahaduo with the 2-way tab but with 10,000 plus samples it will crash it. So for 2-way I use that other tool with large lists.
By the way thanks for the link.
 
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