Haplogroup J2b1 - M205 ("Balkan cluster")

[Okirus]

According to Serbian DNA project, haplogroup J2b1 - M205 is represented with 5,86% (July, 2014.), or 31/529 tested persons (Serbs, Croats and muslims).

Characteristic markers for our "Balkan cluster" is DYS392=12 and DYS437=14.
Similar haplotypes are found amoung Bulgarians (seven persons), Romanians (one person), Hungarians (one person), Czechs (one person), Italians (one person), Germans (two persons) and English (one person).
Our biggest problem is that we have only two guys with 67 tested markers, so it is hard to say when and where lived our most distant ancestor.

It seems that we were isolated from others J2b1 M205 branches, because closest haplotypes to our group is two French and one Greek (same ancestor before around 4000 years).

What do you think about this haplogroup and this "Balkan cluster"?

 

[Yetos]

The table below shows the relative frequencies of people who have DNA tested (from FTDNA RAO database. Data may be incomplete).
[TABLE="width: 500, align: center"]
[TR]
[TD]Country
[/TD]
[TD]12 Markers[/TD]
[TD]25 markers[/TD]
[TD]37 markers[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Greece[/TD]
[TD]501[/TD]
[TD]109 (21%)[/TD]
[TD]85 (17%)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Bulgaria[/TD]
[TD]76[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Albania[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Croatia[/TD]
[TD] 147[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Serbia[/TD]
[TD]46[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]

788​

[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Slovenia[/TD]
[TD] 92[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Romania[/TD]
[TD]365[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]

1245​

[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]England[/TD]
[TD] 16030[/TD]
[TD] 11134 (69%)[/TD]
[TD]8082 (50%)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ireland[/TD]
[TD] 8979[/TD]
[TD]5607 (62%)[/TD]
[TD]4443 (49%)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]United Kingdom[/TD]
[TD] 7358[/TD]
[TD] 3832 (52%)[/TD]
[TD]2879 (39%)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Scotland[/TD]
[TD] 7213[/TD]
[TD] 5068 (70%)[/TD]
[TD]3977 (55%)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Wales[/TD]
[TD]1308[/TD]
[TD] 811 (62%)[/TD]
[TD]611 (47%)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]

40888​

[/TD]
[TD]

26452 (65%)​

[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Germany[/TD]
[TD] 7765[/TD]
[TD] 3386 (44%)[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]France[/TD]
[TD] 2185[/TD]
[TD] 865 (40%)[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Spain[/TD]
[TD] 2119[/TD]
[TD] 692 (32%)[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Netherlands[/TD]
[TD] 1074[/TD]
[TD]406 (38%)[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Denmark[/TD]
[TD] 559[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Switzerland[/TD]
[TD] 1116[/TD]
[TD]598 (54%)[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Poland[/TD]
[TD] 2356[/TD]
[TD] 873 (37%)[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Italy[/TD]
[TD] 2290[/TD]
[TD] 587 (26%)[/TD]
[TD]474 (21%)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ukraine[/TD]
[TD] 980[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Slovakia[/TD]
[TD] 349[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Czech Republic[/TD]
[TD] 358[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Turkey[/TD]
[TD]266[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mexico[/TD]
[TD] 601[/TD]
[TD] 135 (22%)[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

in the above watch the scotish % of 37marks

and also watch this

cluster diagram shows Balkans until today.