None of the portuguese samples were bell beakers. They were in the region but bell beakers people were not thrown into caves like the samples they used.... "
Possible indeed but are you so sure?To try to reconciliate all these contradictions, we can imagine a first borderline pop initiating the BB cultural phenomenon in CSW Portugal SW Spain, and becoming accepted by a certain Chalco elite, creating kind of a (religious) mode accaparated later by this Chalco elite and spred around by it in other places (BTW let's keep in mind the BB phenomenon, even in it strongest phase, did not cover all the territories where it dived its places) - an elite with power and controle of commercial "highways" could have boosted the circulation of this new (religious) mode ? Hypothesis...
THat said, an eastern origin (East carpathians) cannot be excluded, and first Y-R1b not more - but I regret we have not more serious samples for supposed Iberian BB's, as you.
That is to say that all the tests collected to verify this phenomenon of massive invasion of the steppe, are non-objective tests and chosen on purpose to accommodate them to a previously conceived theory?
I do not think it was like that
If it is true that apart from these comments that in iberia were only tested neolithic and not true campaniformes, also in France it is observed that the few tests they perform are very close to Germany.
it is early Iberian chalcolithic
these people came clearly from elsewhere
Yes.The sample from Portugal is H2, as Genetiker said, because its calls lead to H2 without holes... the call on M269 seems lonely put in the pot, sort of false positive.
|Mean Age (ybp)
|MC337A - Monte Canelas
|Portugal - SW Iberia Late Neolithic/Chalcolithic
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