G25 IllustrativeDNA-like European HG, Farmer, & Natufian ancestry.

thunorr

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British Isles, Scandinavia, Germany. (check signature to see in greater detail)
Y-DNA haplogroup
R1a-CTS8277
mtDNA haplogroup
N1a1a1a2
May not be accurate for those with Natufian or Zagros ancestry, it tends to inflate Natufian ancestry and deflate Zagros ancestry.
CHG tends to be deflated by a deviation of 1%. It will be inflated into your European HG ancestry.

For myself, it's almost completely accurate, the ANF is spot-on with my Illustrative results, the only difference being in the CHG and European HG ancestry, 0.6% of the CHG DNA was inflated onto my European HG ancestry.
 

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I've found it challenging to specifically isolate my specific admixture of Natufian. But based on what I can gather its somewhere between 5-10% perhaps slightly higher if anyone can find specific admix results of Anatolia neolithic sample Bar25. Which in these sort of lists provides a better fit. One of the reasons for this is because Natufians and Neolithic Anatolians descend from similar earlier near eastern hunter-gatherer populations. I tried isolating my Natufian admix by using slighlty earlier samples, mainly AHG from Pinarbasi. But I've since learned that even the hunter-gatherer from Pinarbasi had 5-10% Natufian admixture.


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Turkey_Boncuklu_N:ZHAJ_BON034.A0101_Luk9,0.118376,0.165531,0.020742,-0.065569,0.058165,-0.032909,-0.00376,-0.008538,0.032315,0.080184,0.013153,0.017834,-0.032705,0.007019,-0.035287,-0.018563,0.018384,0.005954,0.012947,-0.014382,-0.009483,0.008532,-0.00986,-0.012893,0.000359
Georgia_Kotias.SG:KK1_noUDG.SG,0.08992,0.103584,-0.088246,-0.004845,-0.089555,0.020359,0.023266,-0.001154,-0.130486,-0.080002,-0.007632,0.024878,-0.052626,0.007707,0.026465,-0.0297,0.027772,-0.010769,-0.023757,0.037518,0.030945,-0.006677,0.0053,-0.020846,0.001557
WHG:Italy_North_Villabruna_HG:Villabruna_noUDG,0.121791,0.11577,0.18592,0.185726,0.156029,0.060798,0.017626,0.041537,0.093467,0.017859,-0.015752,-0.015886,0.020961,-0.005092,0.05361,0.064041,0.007562,0.004181,-0.00905,0.053401,0.099949,0.012489,-0.044123,-0.169904,0.018801
WHG:England_Mesolithic:I6767,0.125205,0.109677,0.204022,0.196708,0.159414,0.055499,0.016921,0.036922,0.090604,0.018041,-0.01835,-0.010641,0.014271,0.000275,0.06406,0.06351,-0.000261,0.009882,-0.007039,0.066657,0.118541,0.017559,-0.054968,-0.177615,0.021196
Israel_Natufian_d:I1072_enhanced_d,0.037562,0.155376,-0.023381,-0.137276,0.043085,-0.083388,-0.017861,-0.012923,0.124555,0.015672,0.030042,-0.020382,0.082209,0,0.003257,-0.012861,-0.008866,-0.010515,-0.017221,0.021385,0.015348,0.001855,0.008504,0.003735,0
Israel_Natufian:I0861,0.020488,0.131003,-0.039221,-0.141475,0.027082,-0.0753,-0.017861,-0.025845,0.102671,-0.004556,0.030042,-0.020682,0.069573,-0.000963,0.020222,0.028772,-0.012647,0.008868,-0.021117,0.04252,-0.004243,-0.002597,-0.011955,-0.006386,0.011735
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0439,0.127482,0.09546,0.037712,0.113374,-0.018157,0.033467,0.0047,-0.005077,-0.053176,-0.057587,0.003085,-0.002098,-0.006541,-0.025598,0.038952,0.01432,-0.001434,-0.007095,-0.001257,0.018259,-0.001872,0.006801,0.016269,0.025546,-0.009819

Try these and see what you get


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Turkey_Boncuklu_N:ZHAJ_BON034.A0101_Luk9,0.118376,0.165531,0.020742,-0.065569,0.058165,-0.032909,-0.00376,-0.008538,0.032315,0.080184,0.013153,0.017834,-0.032705,0.007019,-0.035287,-0.018563,0.018384,0.005954,0.012947,-0.014382,-0.009483,0.008532,-0.00986,-0.012893,0.000359
Georgia_Kotias.SG:KK1_noUDG.SG,0.08992,0.103584,-0.088246,-0.004845,-0.089555,0.020359,0.023266,-0.001154,-0.130486,-0.080002,-0.007632,0.024878,-0.052626,0.007707,0.026465,-0.0297,0.027772,-0.010769,-0.023757,0.037518,0.030945,-0.006677,0.0053,-0.020846,0.001557
WHG:Italy_North_Villabruna_HG:Villabruna_noUDG,0.121791,0.11577,0.18592,0.185726,0.156029,0.060798,0.017626,0.041537,0.093467,0.017859,-0.015752,-0.015886,0.020961,-0.005092,0.05361,0.064041,0.007562,0.004181,-0.00905,0.053401,0.099949,0.012489,-0.044123,-0.169904,0.018801
WHG:England_Mesolithic:I6767,0.125205,0.109677,0.204022,0.196708,0.159414,0.055499,0.016921,0.036922,0.090604,0.018041,-0.01835,-0.010641,0.014271,0.000275,0.06406,0.06351,-0.000261,0.009882,-0.007039,0.066657,0.118541,0.017559,-0.054968,-0.177615,0.021196
Israel_Natufian_d:I1072_enhanced_d,0.037562,0.155376,-0.023381,-0.137276,0.043085,-0.083388,-0.017861,-0.012923,0.124555,0.015672,0.030042,-0.020382,0.082209,0,0.003257,-0.012861,-0.008866,-0.010515,-0.017221,0.021385,0.015348,0.001855,0.008504,0.003735,0
Israel_Natufian:I0861,0.020488,0.131003,-0.039221,-0.141475,0.027082,-0.0753,-0.017861,-0.025845,0.102671,-0.004556,0.030042,-0.020682,0.069573,-0.000963,0.020222,0.028772,-0.012647,0.008868,-0.021117,0.04252,-0.004243,-0.002597,-0.011955,-0.006386,0.011735
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0439,0.127482,0.09546,0.037712,0.113374,-0.018157,0.033467,0.0047,-0.005077,-0.053176,-0.057587,0.003085,-0.002098,-0.006541,-0.025598,0.038952,0.01432,-0.001434,-0.007095,-0.001257,0.018259,-0.001872,0.006801,0.016269,0.025546,-0.009819

Try these and see what you get


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Target: Thunorr_scaled
Distance: 3.9520% / 0.03951994
49.8 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
33.8 Turkey_Boncuklu_N
10.4 WHG
6.0 Israel_Natufian_d
 
3_way Model for Me using Coordinates from thunnor's post. Thanks

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May not be accurate for those with Natufian or Zagros ancestry, it tends to inflate Natufian ancestry and deflate Zagros ancestry.
CHG tends to be deflated by a deviation of 1%. It will be inflated into your European HG ancestry.

For myself, it's almost completely accurate, the ANF is spot-on with my Illustrative results, the only difference being in the CHG and European HG ancestry, 0.6% of the CHG DNA was inflated onto my European HG ancestry.
I added the samples below to adjust this model to my specific results displayed by Illustrative DNA, considering the reference pops described by the app: European_Hunter-Gatherer:
Russia_Sidelkino_HG.SG, North_African_Neolithic_Farmer: Morocco_EN.SG, Sub-Saharan_African:CMR_Shum_Laka_8000BP, Jomon_Hunter-Gatherer:Japan_Honshu_EarlyJomon.SG.


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