You will find them in South Germany, LBA onwards at the earliest probably around the Rhine, if these people took the Danube all the way to its source then had a walk North West. I could conceive of that, but that is only going to be a fraction of the L283 progenitors in the region, as IMO the Romans might have had a greater impact.
Anyways, I am done with the petty stuff, next time just read the writing on the wall. The cognitive dissonance was you accusing members who have contributed for years of sample bias, when you had 3 samples vis a vis more than a hundred with a clear spacio-temporal steppe cline.
You claim that Romans have the greater impact ... yet, we don't see signal in the phylogeny for Z631 or Y27522 (while we see some for Y15058). We also see signal for a lot of other clades affected by Romans.
After, it is your belief, yet you have no sample and no statistical probe favoring such a thing.
Despite this lack of elements favoring your tale ... you are pushing so strongly for it that it shows that you are not running after an analysis of the reality, but after a narrative you want to push.
I said, based on phylogeny that we had an ~IA segregation of clades at Z597 level with a sub-divesity spot in southern-Germany.
I also explained why demographically speaking the Roman displacement can't work, it involves to many clades (to not creates cross-correlation signal) !
And indeed, we find some sample where and when I was forecasting them, with local admixture, involving a long time presence.
The said sample also have a consistent admixture with another 100 CE sample (too old to have time to have been admixture cleaned).
Handle it, I forecasted something, and we found proof. Now, if your cognitive dissonance prevent you from accepting that I was right on this topic, It is between you and you !
But you harm your credibility by letting your emotions influencing that much the interpretation of the data.
Btw, can you give me links to the peer-reviewed publications of the said "contributors" ?
If none, I don't really care about their opinions ... I care about serious statistical analyses.
If you want to go there, considering my publication records about data analysis, I'm the one making authority here !!!
But truth to said, I don't need authority argument, I have statistical probes, and as proved recently, my forecast receive ancient DNA validation.
Again, handle it.
PS: Note that I will reiterate about one claim : your desire of having L283 as a ~2000 BCE migrant from the steppe have 0% to unfold as correct !
Then, please just stop to creates false claim I never made ! That is very annoying, and it either challenge your comprenhension habilities or your intellectual honesty !
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