News New L618 positive CTS1975 negative samples (-V13)

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The E-M35 project on FamilyTreeDNA shows 3 new samples that are positive for L618 and negative for it's only descendent CTS1975. They are from Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Iraq and I believe they are all due to family finder's new SNP testing. Their markers don't indicate any very recent clustering but without deeper testing we won't know exactly.
 
Great catch!
CTS1975 should be tested with FF assignment, so that's very interesting indeed. Kind of makes the spread with Anatolian farmers - which was the most likely option anyway, all the more likely.

Probably one could tell that FTDNA, they sometimes test such interesting samples, get in touch with them. Of course, its not as exciting for most people as a split for E-M35 or the like, but still.
 
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Update: There is also a new Georgian sample which is CTS1975 positive and V13 negative on the E-M35 project. Combined with the previous Armenian and Azeri sample these become very interesting.

If anyone is knowledge about previous studies that might have had E-M78* samples from the Caucasus they could very well be L618+. I will try to search from old studies.
 
Another update:
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There appears to be a new Italian L618* sample.
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It would be great to know about the regional origin of the sample
 
Interesting, might be some relic from Cardium Pottery, do we have any idea from which region? But it might not give us any hint, his ancestor might have moved from various places multiple times throughout history.
 
Interesting, might be some relic from Cardium Pottery, do we have any idea from which region? But it might not give us any hint, his ancestor might have moved from various places multiple times throughout history.
There were Minoans, Mycenaean, classical Greek, Hellenistic and Roman people in the region. By the looks of it, with the new estimate for E-L618, it pretty much either entered Europe very early on or was even born in Europe. The timing is pretty close to the expansion of Impresso-Cardial in Europe:

Just about 500 years between the start of Cardium Pottery spreading in Europe and the TMRCA. The association with Impresso-Cardial culture is nearly 100 % in Europe.
 
There were Minoans, Mycenaean, classical Greek, Hellenistic and Roman people in the region. By the looks of it, with the new estimate for E-L618, it pretty much either entered Europe very early on or was even born in Europe. The timing is pretty close to the expansion of Impresso-Cardial in Europe:

Just about 500 years between the start of Cardium Pottery spreading in Europe and the TMRCA. The association with Impresso-Cardial culture is nearly 100 % in Europe.
Given the many near eastern L618* samples I'd say a Levantine origin for E-L618 is more likely. Especially since that is where the Cardial culture is first found.
 

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