Rio 2016 Olympics

Brazil should have spent the billions on a more equitable society rather than a showy prestige project like the Olympics.

However if Latin America is a mess it is partly because the USA interferes in any regime that supports the poor or seems in any way Socialist.

the olympics are an expensive game indeed
however it is peanuts compared to Brasil social security expenses
and I disagree that the olympics are a useless event

and the problem with Brasil is corruption, I don't know why you call that socialist, but indeed it happens a lot with socialists
anyway, no need to find any excuses abroad
 
I'm not Socialist but I am still convinced that foreign intervention in South and Central America does nothing to help inequality and poverty there.
 
Also, corruption is a worldwide problem but more important is the greed and meddling of western corporations in the economic and political affairs of the Third World and the BRICS nations.
 
A lot of these countries would be better off with more interference from the U.S. rather than less. They're a mess. Unfortunately, the problems are so deep seated in the very fabric of their societies that I don't know what will help at this stage. Any aid you give them gets stolen by their blood sucking upper classes. If you try to start a business there or you want to do trade, their hands are out for bribes and kick backs before your plane lands. Corruption has been endemic there since Cortez and Pizarro. All they ever wanted to do was steal anything that wasn't nailed down.

Any so called "reformer" or Socialist messiah winds up making things even worse because they too are corrupt, and in addition they don't have the faintest clue how to get these economies up and running. Communism/socialism may be the most destructive ideology ever to be imagined, perhaps worse than fascism.

How'd Chavez and Socialism work out for Venezuela?
Venezuela is falling apart:
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/05/venezuela-is-falling-apart/481755/

Read it and weep. Shutting down a factory over toilet paper, or rioting because you want a two day work week. TWO DAYS! Yeah, you'll compete on world markets that way, for sure.

"But why? It’s not that the country lacked money. Sitting atop the world’s largest reserves of oil at the tail end of a frenzied oil boom, the government led first by Chavez and, since 2013, by Maduro, received over a trillion dollars in oil revenues over the last 17 years. It faced virtually no institutional constraints on how to spend that unprecedented bonanza. It’s true that oil prices have since fallen—a risk many people foresaw, and one that the government made no provision for—but that can hardly explain what’s happened: Venezuela’s garish implosion began well before the price of oil plummeted. Back in 2014, when oil was still trading north of $100 per barrel, Venezuelans were already facing acute shortages of basic things like bread or toiletries.The real culprit is chavismo, the ruling philosophy named for Chavez and carried forward by Maduro, and its truly breathtaking propensity for mismanagement(the government plowed state money arbitrarily into foolish investments);institutional destruction (as Chavez and then Maduro became more authoritarian and crippled the country’s democratic institutions); nonsense policy-making (like price and currency controls); and plain thievery (as corruption has proliferated among unaccountable officials and their friends and families)."

Or how about the poor Sandinistas, those heroes of the left? How'd they do? They did so well that tens and tens of thousands of Central Americans have illegally immigrated to the big, bad, U.S. Sometimes I think half of Central America has come to the northeast.

That's how well socialism has worked out in Latin America, and how well their managerial and government classes are managing things there. I'm absolutely underwhelmed with how well they're doing on their own.

Plus, a lot of these countries actually asked the U.S. to intervene in order to prevent Spain and Portugal from taking them over again. That's how much they appreciated the way they'd been governed. Compare that to the British colonies. Yes, in the case of the U.S. they fought for their independence, but the fundamentals established by the British were sound. As a Brit yourself, I presume, you should be proud of that, yes?

@Bicicleur,

That's all it ever is: excuses, excuses, excuses. They're sitting on top of all these natural resources and they have no clue what to do with them.
 
"Race" is very important in Latin America.

The upper classes in the Latin American countries are white or near-white who care little or nothing for the masses of black or Native American or mixed people.

Only Subsaharan Africa is worse because the few rich and many poor are ethnically identical. The corruption and classism there is inexcusable.

Back to the Olympics.
Great Britain is second in the medal table for golds spread over 13 sporting disciplines and third for the total of medals.
She could surpass the total in London 2012!
 
Yes, next America is going to steal Santa Claus.

Of course, none of it has anything to do with the fact that Spain and Portugal drained these countries dry and mismanaged them for hundreds of years, and then after independence the same thing continued to happen under their home grown oligarchs. It was a paradise until the U.S. got involved.

As for the "Lochte affair", I finally saw footage of the press conference in Brazil. Something smells to high heaven. If a guy in uniform waves a gun in your face and asks for money, pardon me, but I'd think I was being robbed. I wouldn't go to Rio if they paid me to go...it's a hell hole where, from everything I've heard, it's not at all unusual for the "authorities" to hold you up for money. It's corrupt from top to bottom, and while the visuals may be pretty, you'd better get a massive dose of antibiotics before you put a toe in the water. So much for another one of the "next superpowers" of the world.

That said, Lochte's just another one of those man-boys who never grow up, a category which seems to be increasing by leaps and bounds in the developed world. This is how a thirty-two year old is till acting? In twenty years he'll be at some bar, with a hair piece or a comb over, a gut, and trying to hit up the twenty-year olds. Pathetic.

I'm more of a half man-boy in that I work and put the gaming controller down a while ago; but I still like to watch re runs of beavis and butthead, engage in "silly" conversations with a close friend of mine, stay up late on weekends listening to my metal, and other stuff I can't quickly pull out of my head atm.

And I think rio harmed itself by hosting the olympics because I'm sure now more people are growing more aware at how messed up the city is so that reduces tourism.

And where would the other .88 of the tickets go? Are they going to drop them in the waters? Lol
 
For those following the daily news, it was quite clear that Brasil was pretty messed up long before the Olympics.
 
Current standings as of 8/20. Russia is definitely not having a good Olympics.
 
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