A good day,
I would like to share the following G25 coordinates. They have been reconstructed. My DNA test was surprising; among other things, I discovered the probably Sephardic origins of my paternal grandmother. Today, it is clear that as a young woman she was able to flee from a predicament, deported from a homeland that may have been Hungary, perhaps as a forced laborer in Marienburg, West Prussia, today Malbork in the Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland. She fled to Berlin in 1943 together with an older German woman who lent her one of her papers so that she could pass as her daughter. In February 1944, she married a German man who had been interned several times under Paragraph 175 for homosexuality and was finally forced into compulsory labor. She concealed her origins. As a result, I was raised Christian and am not religious today. I have had a life full of tragic disruptions.
In the MyHeritage test, the ethnicity data that remained and was finally attributed to my grandmother consisted of Portuguese, Southern Italian, Northern Italian, Balkans, Eastern European, Baltic, and Dutch. This corresponds to the first two largest clusters and three less significant additional clusters in the Autoclusters tool at MyHeritage, sorted by segment length and number of matches. Some of the people whose tests are involved live today in Hungary, Israel, the US, Brazil, and Puerto Rico. Known common ancestors, who appear in the family trees of several matches at the same time, can be found at farhi org, a genealogy project for Sephardic families.
I was able to identify a certain layer of obvious common ancestors for the 15th to 18th centuries. But I only have connections to fourth and fifth cousins. Not enough of the over one hundred matches share detailed family tree information.
The following G25 profile is the result of a large number of experiments using a mix tool (admixtr.streamlit.app), a distance meter (vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo), the autosomal admixture proportions oracle Eurogenes K 36 (gedmatch com), the K36 to G25 Simulator (exploreyourdna com), and a little artificial intelligence.
WestSephardic, 0.12455071525159848, 0.134274142733734, 0.053750790451405774, 0.033222243145314426, 0.041182011231287584, 0.009638931048165388, 0.0033047128594455404, 0.006375318959522546, 0.008937314485097457, 0.00841945564376477, -0.002883727391390499,0.0014036840187090281, -0.008832003359348918, -0.0022023121128260923, 0.009123767177668496, 0.004289353743931385, 0.003702289420133493, 0.0030835352581733196, 0.0021265443028524195, 0.0027792729969839513, 0.0026022113179950753, 0.0014858273595699885, 0.0013213429723832625, 0.004252460920331196, -0.00021072685342080007
24-component mix of the G25 WestSephardic profile
1. Iberia_Catalonia_Empuries_Hellenistic_(Northern_Euro_Profile) 16 %
2. Flemish_Belgium_Antwerp 12 %
3. Anatolia_Early_Medieval_(Byzantine)_Ilipinar_(Balto-Slavic_Profile) 10 %
4. Italy_Renaissance_Rome_(Central_Euro_Profile) 10 %
5. Italy_Early_Modern_Rome_(Mixed_Western_Euro_Profile) 10 %
6. Iberia_Pais_Vasco_IA_Celtiberian 6 %
7. Hungarian 5.5%
8. Levant_Yehud_IBA 4.5 %
9. Iberia_Asturias_CA (Intermediate_Profile) 4 %
10. Croatia_Late_Antiquity_Sisak_East_Med / Western_Jewish 3.75 %
11. Italy_Imperial_Rome / Byzantine 3 %
12. Croat_Dalmatia 3 %
13. Lithuanian 2 %
14. Dutch_South 2 %
15. Dutch_Zeeland 2 %
16. Iberia_Portugal_Mesolithic 1.5 %
17. Italy_Early_Medieval_Central 1.2 %
18. Anatolia_Early_Medieval 0.75 %
19. French_Ol_Normandy_Manche 0.7 %
20. Greek_Thessaly 0.6 %
21. Turkish_Usak 0.5 %
22. Moroccan_Morisco 0.5 %
23. Iberia_Catalonia_Early_Medieval 0.3 %
24. Berber_Morocco_Shilha_Tiznit 0.2 %
Euclidean distance to my simulated G25 profile via Vahaduo
0.01899886 WestSephardic
0.07899434 Syn_IberiaMed64Rom32_Turk3*
0.11337659 LATAM_Jewish_Sephardic Portugal**
0.14591574 Sephardic_Jew_Turkey***
0.15140084 Sephardic_Jew_Bulgaria ****
* Synthetic G25-Profile following the results of Sephardic Jewish G25 Calculator (Scaled) by hezb111 (genoplot com): Sample Result Al_Andalus:I12514: 15.6 (Group Result 64.4), Roman_Iberia:I3585: 32.2, Oghuz_Turkic:Ottoman_MA2195: 3.4.
** Ancient Calculator for LATAM (Central and South Americans), exploreyourdna com (39.2% Iberia_Andalusia_Early_Medieval + 24.1% Portuguese + 19.8% Moroccan_Morisco + 10.3% Levant_Yehud_IBA + 6.6% Residual with ancient Anatolian elements)
*** admixtr.streamlit.app (47.2% Italy_Roman_Empire_Palestrina_Antina + 30.8% Greek_Dodecanese_Rhodes + 13.5% Levant_Yehud_IBA + 8.5% Iberia_Mozarabic)
**** admixtr.streamlit.app (51.1% Greek_Thessaly + 28.2% Italy_Roman_Empire_Palestrina_Antina + 13.4% Levant_Yehud_IBA + 7.3% Iberia_Mozarabic)
Genealogical cluster information
1. Cluster Portugal, segment on chromosome 21, around 70 matches: Sub-branches lead to Latin America, but also to Metz, Lorraine (16th cent.)
Current hypothesis of an apparent common ancestor: Gerson Elizier Zay (Zey), born around 1510 in Zelande ou Portugal [Zeeland, Holland], died between 1595 and 1600 in Metz (farhi org ID I6266), son of Lazare Eliezer Zay, born around 1475 in Espagne ou Portugal, died between 1560 and 1565 in Amsterdam (farhi.org ID I8242).
Common surnames in Metz, Lorraine: 20.7 cM Zay, Halphen, 17 cM Karlif, Chalfon, Stern; in Hungary, the Netherlands, Southern Germany: 20 cM Löwy, 17.8 cM Reichman, 18.4 cM Lip(p)man, Gans; in Portugal, Latin America: 24.9 cM Sanchez, 11.8 cM Teixeira, 11.3 cM Vega, 9.9 cM Serrano.
2. Cluster Catalonia – South Italia / Balkans, segment on chromosome 11, around 40 matches: Sub-branches lead to Hungary, Poland, Lithuania, Ukraine and elsewhere (15th cent.)
Current hypothesis of an apparent common ancestor: Katz Yitzhak HaCohen (of Buda and Galata), born around 1400 in Salonika, died after 1466 in Galata, Istanbul, Turkey (farhi org ID I10670), married to Vogele (Feigele) Loew, born in 1421 (ID I10717). His father is Katz Akiva HaCohen, Av Bet Din Saloniki, died around 1450 in Salonika, Greece (ID I10671), born around 1380 in Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain, according to geni.com. His wife, unnamed at farhi.org (Nechama Mink at geni.com), was born in Spain in 1362 and died in Salonika, Greece, in 1458.
Common surnames in Hungary: 19.8 cM Lowy, 19.5 cM Katz, Reichman, Gordin, 11.7 cM Nagy, 11.1 cM Ackerman, 8.3 cM Herskovitz; in Wieklopolski, Posen/Poland: 10.9 cM Lippman, Stern, in Ukraine, Poland: 9.6 cM Fishman.
With fewer than ten matches each
3. Cluster combining the first two mentioned segments with another one on chromosome 12, with matches in Croatia, Hungary, and Ukraine (17th cent.)
Current hypothesis of an apparent common ancestor: Rebecca Halfon/Chalfon, born in 1655 in Metz, Lorraine, died on May 23, 1714, in Mannheim (farhi org ID I11006), her father is Goodchaux Abraham Halphen/Halfon/Chalfon, dit le Jeune, died July 20, 1682, in Metz (ID I11007).
Common surnames in Ukraine: 17.2 cM Guggenheim, Sinzheim, Auerbach, Karlif, 13.3 cM Umanski; in Metz, Lorraine, and Switzerland: 17.2 cM Guggenheim, Oppenheim, Sinzheim, Fraenkel, Chalfon
4. Cluster combining the first mentioned segment with another one, on chromosome 5, with matches in Netherlands, Italy and Poland (17th cent.)
Common surnames in Italy: 14.8 cM Salvati, in the Netherlands: 9.3 cM de Bruijn, in Poland: 24 cM Wiecka/Wiecki.
5. Cluster combining the second mentioned segment with another one, on chromosome 14, with matches in Switzerland, Russia, France and Germany (18th cent.)
Common surnames in Switzerland/Russia: 20.8 cM Guggenheim, Bollag/Polak, Pickart/Picard
I would like to share the following G25 coordinates. They have been reconstructed. My DNA test was surprising; among other things, I discovered the probably Sephardic origins of my paternal grandmother. Today, it is clear that as a young woman she was able to flee from a predicament, deported from a homeland that may have been Hungary, perhaps as a forced laborer in Marienburg, West Prussia, today Malbork in the Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland. She fled to Berlin in 1943 together with an older German woman who lent her one of her papers so that she could pass as her daughter. In February 1944, she married a German man who had been interned several times under Paragraph 175 for homosexuality and was finally forced into compulsory labor. She concealed her origins. As a result, I was raised Christian and am not religious today. I have had a life full of tragic disruptions.
In the MyHeritage test, the ethnicity data that remained and was finally attributed to my grandmother consisted of Portuguese, Southern Italian, Northern Italian, Balkans, Eastern European, Baltic, and Dutch. This corresponds to the first two largest clusters and three less significant additional clusters in the Autoclusters tool at MyHeritage, sorted by segment length and number of matches. Some of the people whose tests are involved live today in Hungary, Israel, the US, Brazil, and Puerto Rico. Known common ancestors, who appear in the family trees of several matches at the same time, can be found at farhi org, a genealogy project for Sephardic families.
I was able to identify a certain layer of obvious common ancestors for the 15th to 18th centuries. But I only have connections to fourth and fifth cousins. Not enough of the over one hundred matches share detailed family tree information.
The following G25 profile is the result of a large number of experiments using a mix tool (admixtr.streamlit.app), a distance meter (vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo), the autosomal admixture proportions oracle Eurogenes K 36 (gedmatch com), the K36 to G25 Simulator (exploreyourdna com), and a little artificial intelligence.
WestSephardic, 0.12455071525159848, 0.134274142733734, 0.053750790451405774, 0.033222243145314426, 0.041182011231287584, 0.009638931048165388, 0.0033047128594455404, 0.006375318959522546, 0.008937314485097457, 0.00841945564376477, -0.002883727391390499,0.0014036840187090281, -0.008832003359348918, -0.0022023121128260923, 0.009123767177668496, 0.004289353743931385, 0.003702289420133493, 0.0030835352581733196, 0.0021265443028524195, 0.0027792729969839513, 0.0026022113179950753, 0.0014858273595699885, 0.0013213429723832625, 0.004252460920331196, -0.00021072685342080007
24-component mix of the G25 WestSephardic profile
1. Iberia_Catalonia_Empuries_Hellenistic_(Northern_Euro_Profile) 16 %
2. Flemish_Belgium_Antwerp 12 %
3. Anatolia_Early_Medieval_(Byzantine)_Ilipinar_(Balto-Slavic_Profile) 10 %
4. Italy_Renaissance_Rome_(Central_Euro_Profile) 10 %
5. Italy_Early_Modern_Rome_(Mixed_Western_Euro_Profile) 10 %
6. Iberia_Pais_Vasco_IA_Celtiberian 6 %
7. Hungarian 5.5%
8. Levant_Yehud_IBA 4.5 %
9. Iberia_Asturias_CA (Intermediate_Profile) 4 %
10. Croatia_Late_Antiquity_Sisak_East_Med / Western_Jewish 3.75 %
11. Italy_Imperial_Rome / Byzantine 3 %
12. Croat_Dalmatia 3 %
13. Lithuanian 2 %
14. Dutch_South 2 %
15. Dutch_Zeeland 2 %
16. Iberia_Portugal_Mesolithic 1.5 %
17. Italy_Early_Medieval_Central 1.2 %
18. Anatolia_Early_Medieval 0.75 %
19. French_Ol_Normandy_Manche 0.7 %
20. Greek_Thessaly 0.6 %
21. Turkish_Usak 0.5 %
22. Moroccan_Morisco 0.5 %
23. Iberia_Catalonia_Early_Medieval 0.3 %
24. Berber_Morocco_Shilha_Tiznit 0.2 %
Euclidean distance to my simulated G25 profile via Vahaduo
0.01899886 WestSephardic
0.07899434 Syn_IberiaMed64Rom32_Turk3*
0.11337659 LATAM_Jewish_Sephardic Portugal**
0.14591574 Sephardic_Jew_Turkey***
0.15140084 Sephardic_Jew_Bulgaria ****
* Synthetic G25-Profile following the results of Sephardic Jewish G25 Calculator (Scaled) by hezb111 (genoplot com): Sample Result Al_Andalus:I12514: 15.6 (Group Result 64.4), Roman_Iberia:I3585: 32.2, Oghuz_Turkic:Ottoman_MA2195: 3.4.
** Ancient Calculator for LATAM (Central and South Americans), exploreyourdna com (39.2% Iberia_Andalusia_Early_Medieval + 24.1% Portuguese + 19.8% Moroccan_Morisco + 10.3% Levant_Yehud_IBA + 6.6% Residual with ancient Anatolian elements)
*** admixtr.streamlit.app (47.2% Italy_Roman_Empire_Palestrina_Antina + 30.8% Greek_Dodecanese_Rhodes + 13.5% Levant_Yehud_IBA + 8.5% Iberia_Mozarabic)
**** admixtr.streamlit.app (51.1% Greek_Thessaly + 28.2% Italy_Roman_Empire_Palestrina_Antina + 13.4% Levant_Yehud_IBA + 7.3% Iberia_Mozarabic)
Genealogical cluster information
1. Cluster Portugal, segment on chromosome 21, around 70 matches: Sub-branches lead to Latin America, but also to Metz, Lorraine (16th cent.)
Current hypothesis of an apparent common ancestor: Gerson Elizier Zay (Zey), born around 1510 in Zelande ou Portugal [Zeeland, Holland], died between 1595 and 1600 in Metz (farhi org ID I6266), son of Lazare Eliezer Zay, born around 1475 in Espagne ou Portugal, died between 1560 and 1565 in Amsterdam (farhi.org ID I8242).
Common surnames in Metz, Lorraine: 20.7 cM Zay, Halphen, 17 cM Karlif, Chalfon, Stern; in Hungary, the Netherlands, Southern Germany: 20 cM Löwy, 17.8 cM Reichman, 18.4 cM Lip(p)man, Gans; in Portugal, Latin America: 24.9 cM Sanchez, 11.8 cM Teixeira, 11.3 cM Vega, 9.9 cM Serrano.
2. Cluster Catalonia – South Italia / Balkans, segment on chromosome 11, around 40 matches: Sub-branches lead to Hungary, Poland, Lithuania, Ukraine and elsewhere (15th cent.)
Current hypothesis of an apparent common ancestor: Katz Yitzhak HaCohen (of Buda and Galata), born around 1400 in Salonika, died after 1466 in Galata, Istanbul, Turkey (farhi org ID I10670), married to Vogele (Feigele) Loew, born in 1421 (ID I10717). His father is Katz Akiva HaCohen, Av Bet Din Saloniki, died around 1450 in Salonika, Greece (ID I10671), born around 1380 in Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain, according to geni.com. His wife, unnamed at farhi.org (Nechama Mink at geni.com), was born in Spain in 1362 and died in Salonika, Greece, in 1458.
Common surnames in Hungary: 19.8 cM Lowy, 19.5 cM Katz, Reichman, Gordin, 11.7 cM Nagy, 11.1 cM Ackerman, 8.3 cM Herskovitz; in Wieklopolski, Posen/Poland: 10.9 cM Lippman, Stern, in Ukraine, Poland: 9.6 cM Fishman.
With fewer than ten matches each
3. Cluster combining the first two mentioned segments with another one on chromosome 12, with matches in Croatia, Hungary, and Ukraine (17th cent.)
Current hypothesis of an apparent common ancestor: Rebecca Halfon/Chalfon, born in 1655 in Metz, Lorraine, died on May 23, 1714, in Mannheim (farhi org ID I11006), her father is Goodchaux Abraham Halphen/Halfon/Chalfon, dit le Jeune, died July 20, 1682, in Metz (ID I11007).
Common surnames in Ukraine: 17.2 cM Guggenheim, Sinzheim, Auerbach, Karlif, 13.3 cM Umanski; in Metz, Lorraine, and Switzerland: 17.2 cM Guggenheim, Oppenheim, Sinzheim, Fraenkel, Chalfon
4. Cluster combining the first mentioned segment with another one, on chromosome 5, with matches in Netherlands, Italy and Poland (17th cent.)
Common surnames in Italy: 14.8 cM Salvati, in the Netherlands: 9.3 cM de Bruijn, in Poland: 24 cM Wiecka/Wiecki.
5. Cluster combining the second mentioned segment with another one, on chromosome 14, with matches in Switzerland, Russia, France and Germany (18th cent.)
Common surnames in Switzerland/Russia: 20.8 cM Guggenheim, Bollag/Polak, Pickart/Picard
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