African mtDNA and Y-DNA in Iberia

I thought this debate had been resolved some time ago. Only the pathetic racist sociopaths keep pushing long disproved rubbish information. I hate to keep repeating obvious things but most E in both Spain and Portugal is M-81 subclade, very old and of Eurasian origin. Let's move on to better things.
 
yes, everytime we have to repeat the same things, but some people never learn or simply don't want to learn...
of the total 6% of E1b1b of Iberia about 4.6% is M-81 and it is of paleolithic origin.
Come on, This is not dna-forums !! Here we don't talk about that crap of dna-tribes and other crap studies. This is a serious minded forum
 
yes, everytime we have to repeat the same things, but some people never learn or simply don't want to learn...
of the total 6% of E1b1b of Iberia about 4.6% is M-81 and it is of paleolithic origin.
Come on, This is not dna-forums !! Here we don't talk about that crap of dna-tribes and other crap studies. This is a serious minded forum

I'm not that people I want to learn but I have difficulty with English, maybe you (or someone else) can linker some studies of the Spanish population in Spanish language? by private message to not disturb the forum.
 
I have best texts in history books, but I can not scan this books sorry, you can look for more in google.

Tampoco digo que este sea el origen de ese ADN encontrado por esas zonas, pero supongo no está de más la posibilidad, aunque solo sea por que incrementó el aporte africano en el noroeste.


Tu propia fuente no dice nada de que haya ocurrido un movimiento de grandes cantidades de "moriscos" hacia Galicia. Y ademas menciona la expulsion general:

"Tras ser sofocada la rebelión se procede a la expulsión de los moriscos supervivientes, que han sido calculados en unos 80.000; el destino fue Andalucía occidental, La Mancha y Castilla. Unos pocos millares pudieron permanecer hasta la expulsión general del país, en 1 610, bajo el reinado de Felipe II."
 
Tu propia fuente no dice nada de que haya ocurrido un movimiento de grandes cantidades de "moriscos" hacia Galicia. Y ademas menciona la expulsion general:



"Tras ser sofocada la rebelión se procede a la expulsión de los moriscos supervivientes, que han sido calculados en unos 80.000; el destino fue Andalucía occidental, La Mancha y Castilla. Unos pocos millares pudieron permanecer hasta la expulsión general del país, en 1 610, bajo el reinado de Felipe II."





La expulsión



En 1570 Felipe II manda la expulsión. Se ordenó que los moriscos del Valle de Lecrín, Granada, Vega de granada, etc., salieran hacia Córdoba y desde allí fueron repartidos hacia Extremadura y Galicia. Para ello se reunieron el 1 de noviembre en las iglesias de cada lugar para comenzar la marcha.

(no me deja insertar links aún, necesito 10 mensajes)

Es información parcial solamente, tengamos en cuenta que en la población autóctona de granada, incluso la convertida al islam, había ya en el siglo I población semita, Elvira, sus barrios judíos, todos estos genes fueron borrados de la actual Granada con la repoblación y dispersados al noroeste, seguro que es posible que incrementen ese porcentaje de ADN, 80.000 personas no son pocas, esos moriscos además no fueron expulsados pues se integraron en pequeños grupos por todo el noroeste y se perdieron.
 
A good number of the mt-DNA studies on Sub-Saharan frequencies in Portugal, like in Spain, are distorted because of faulty methodology. They are NON-REPRESENTATIVE.

Eu não sei se são representativos ou não. Mas se de facto as amostras foram recolhidos naquelas zonas onde alguns habitantes têm quase um aspecto de cabo-verdianos, tipo Alcácer, então não haveria diferença entre as terem recolhido aí ou ido a Chelas recolhê-las.
A ser verdade o que diz então a credibilidade desses estudos estão comprometidas.


Much of the L found in Portugal may not even be clades that are Sub-Saharan, rather, they could well be Asian and extremely old. Little of it has to do with the Atlantic Slave Trade. If you want to see the real miscegenation effects of the trade, go to Liverpool.


Pois, ainda há controvérsia sobre se o L é exclusivamente sub-sahariano ou de poderá também estar relacionado com povos Euroasiáticos. No entanto, mesmo que seja somente sub-sahariano, a sua presença em Portugal pode não dever-se apenas à escravatura colonial, e tenho essa suspeita porque vi algures um estudo (não me lembro qual) que mostrava que a Galiza possuia um valor de L ligeiramente superior ao do Norte de Portugal, ora, como isto pode ser possível se considerarmos que somente foi a escravatura a responsável pelas linhagens de L em existentes Portugal? A Galiza nunca fez parte de Portugal e o noroeste peninsular ( aliás, o norte todo)foi sempre uma região populosa que não precisaria de mão-de-obra escrava, ao contrário do sul, mais despovoado, em que os escravos poderiam ser valiosos para o trabalho. É isto que me leva crer que algum deste L é muito mais antigo, e portanto, já não terá relevância
a nível autossómico.
No entanto houve de facto mais recentemente alguma mestiçagem com escravos, como já pude ver no geneall.net numa discussão sobre escravos nascidos em Portugal filhos de escravas e seus senhores portugueses


These idiot intra-race racists twist the facts to satisfy some sick agenda and are essentially flushing themselves down the toilet with their childish lies. Sound genetic research is wrecking the body of misinformation every day.



Há um certo prazer mesquinho que os nordicistas, lusófobos brasileiros, etc, têm em pegar nestes números e fazer com eles uma dramatização exagerada, uma tragédia shakespeareana, de modo a rebaixarem o nosso país ao ponto de já ter visto escrito mais ou menos por estas palavras que "Portugal que era a maior potência europeia, tornou-se o país mais pobre da Europa devido à mestiçagem com milhares e milhares de negros", entre outas tretas do género.
Mas o que essas difamadores esquecem-se de mencionar é que, apesar do Sul do país ter um valor significativo de mtDNA sub-sahariano, essa região comporta apenas 10% da população portuguesa, o que faz com o número de pessoas do sul que possuem ancestralidade sub-sahariana sejam cerca cento e vinte mil; um número bastante modesto.

Sorry for those who don't speak portuguese. :ashamed2:
 
Eu não sei se são representativos ou não. Mas se de facto as amostras foram recolhidos naquelas zonas onde alguns habitantes têm quase um aspecto de cabo-verdianos, tipo Alcácer, então não haveria diferença entre as terem recolhido aí ou ido a Chelas recolhê-las.
A ser verdade o que diz então a credibilidade desses estudos estão comprometidas.
Pois, ainda há controvérsia sobre se o L é exclusivamente sub-sahariano ou de poderá também estar relacionado com povos Euroasiáticos. No entanto, mesmo que seja somente sub-sahariano, a sua presença em Portugal pode não dever-se apenas à escravatura colonial, e tenho essa suspeita porque vi algures um estudo (não me lembro qual) que mostrava que a Galiza possuia um valor de L ligeiramente superior ao do Norte de Portugal, ora, como isto pode ser possível se considerarmos que somente foi a escravatura a responsável pelas linhagens de L em existentes Portugal? A Galiza nunca fez parte de Portugal e o noroeste peninsular ( aliás, o norte todo)foi sempre uma região populosa que não precisaria de mão-de-obra escrava, ao contrário do sul, mais despovoado, em que os escravos poderiam ser valiosos para o trabalho. É isto que me leva crer que algum deste L é muito mais antigo, e portanto, já não terá relevância
a nível autossómico.
No entanto houve de facto mais recentemente alguma mestiçagem com escravos, como já pude ver no geneall.net numa discussão sobre escravos nascidos em Portugal filhos de escravas e seus senhores portugueses
Há um certo prazer mesquinho que os nordicistas, lusófobos brasileiros, etc, têm em pegar nestes números e fazer com eles uma dramatização exagerada, uma tragédia shakespeareana, de modo a rebaixarem o nosso país ao ponto de já ter visto escrito mais ou menos por estas palavras que "Portugal que era a maior potência europeia, tornou-se o país mais pobre da Europa devido à mestiçagem com milhares e milhares de negros", entre outas tretas do género.
Mas o que essas difamadores esquecem-se de mencionar é que, apesar do Sul do país ter um valor significativo de mtDNA sub-sahariano, essa região comporta apenas 10% da população portuguesa, o que faz com o número de pessoas do sul que possuem ancestralidade sub-sahariana sejam cerca cento e vinte mil; um número bastante modesto.
Sorry for those who don't speak portuguese. :ashamed2:

Algumas provas tiveram representantes de Alcacer... :LOL:

I suspect that in the next few years, after additional research has been completed, the true levels of "Sub-Saharan" mt-DNA will be about 2% for both Spain and Portugal. Like I said, go to Liverpool to se the REAL effects of the Atlantic Slave Trade on a European population.

Portugal is more than 2/3 Celtic in substratum and phenotypes are mainly Paleo-Atlantid and Nordid-Atlantid. Most Portuguese Mediterranean types are Western not Eastern Med or Mid-Eastern, such as what is commonly found in parts of italy and Greece.

A lot of these idiot racists look at the Brazilian mulattos in Portugal and claim they are native... :LOL: What a joke! Talk about moronic...
 
The mtDNA L in Spain (1.61%) is pretty much the same level found in Norway (1.40%) (Passarino et al. 2002). Also 2% among Finns (Pereira et al. 2005 ) and 1.4% in germans (Pliss et al. 2005)
In the wikipedia article obviously the nordicists have deleted this information.


Furthermore, the one found in Iberia is L3 (Eurasian)

About L3 :

According to Maca-Meyer et al. (2001), "L3 is more related to Eurasian haplogroups than to the most divergent African clusters L1 and L2".
L3 is the haplogroup from which all modern humans outside of Africa derive

One of these lineages, defined by loss of the DdeI site at np 10394, represents only a few percent of the African mtDNAs but appears to be the progenitor of roughly half of all European, Asian and Native American mtDNAs."

Source :
Maca-Meyer et al. (2001), Major genomic mitochondrial lineages delineate early human expansions, BMC Genetics 2001, 2:13

https://www.cambridgedna.com/genealo...php?view=step3
 
Eu não sei se são representativos ou não. Mas se de facto as amostras foram recolhidos naquelas zonas onde alguns habitantes têm quase um aspecto de cabo-verdianos, tipo Alcácer, então não haveria diferença entre as terem recolhido aí ou ido a Chelas recolhê-las.
A ser verdade o que diz então a credibilidade desses estudos estão comprometidas.
Pois, ainda há controvérsia sobre se o L é exclusivamente sub-sahariano ou de poderá também estar relacionado com povos Euroasiáticos. No entanto, mesmo que seja somente sub-sahariano, a sua presença em Portugal pode não dever-se apenas à escravatura colonial, e tenho essa suspeita porque vi algures um estudo (não me lembro qual) que mostrava que a Galiza possuia um valor de L ligeiramente superior ao do Norte de Portugal, ora, como isto pode ser possível se considerarmos que somente foi a escravatura a responsável pelas linhagens de L em existentes Portugal? A Galiza nunca fez parte de Portugal e o noroeste peninsular ( aliás, o norte todo)foi sempre uma região populosa que não precisaria de mão-de-obra escrava, ao contrário do sul, mais despovoado, em que os escravos poderiam ser valiosos para o trabalho. É isto que me leva crer que algum deste L é muito mais antigo, e portanto, já não terá relevância
a nível autossómico.
No entanto houve de facto mais recentemente alguma mestiçagem com escravos, como já pude ver no geneall.net numa discussão sobre escravos nascidos em Portugal filhos de escravas e seus senhores portugueses
Há um certo prazer mesquinho que os nordicistas, lusófobos brasileiros, etc, têm em pegar nestes números e fazer com eles uma dramatização exagerada, uma tragédia shakespeareana, de modo a rebaixarem o nosso país ao ponto de já ter visto escrito mais ou menos por estas palavras que "Portugal que era a maior potência europeia, tornou-se o país mais pobre da Europa devido à mestiçagem com milhares e milhares de negros", entre outas tretas do género.
Mas o que essas difamadores esquecem-se de mencionar é que, apesar do Sul do país ter um valor significativo de mtDNA sub-sahariano, essa região comporta apenas 10% da população portuguesa, o que faz com o número de pessoas do sul que possuem ancestralidade sub-sahariana sejam cerca cento e vinte mil; um número bastante modesto.
Sorry for those who don't speak portuguese. :ashamed2:

A populacao do sul, Algarve e Alentejo em total, e ~ 7-8% de Portugal enteiro.

What is incredible is that some of the samplings for "Sub-Saharan" mt-DNA studies in Portugal were taken from people who had a history of racial admixture in their family tree. Obviously, such samples cannot be used since they are not from native origin individuals. Similar things have happened in Spain. Pathetic, really.

It's very simple, a NATIVE ORIGIN Portuguese or Spaniard fundamentally means an individual with a genetic base of Iberian and Celtic and, to a lesser extent, Germanic, Roman, Nordic and Eurasian Berber - either as single component or in some combinatorial form. Pretty clear, given all the facts. However, some people just don't get it or DON'T WANT TO GET IT. :useless:
 
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A populacao do sul, Algarve e Alentejo em total, e ~ 7-8% de Portugal enteiro.

O Alentejo tem 820000 pessoas e o Algarve tem 426400, isso dá um total de 1246400 (~ 11% da população portuguesa). Se multiplicarmos esse valor por 0.10 ( que representa os 10% de pessoas com mistura sub-sahariana) isso dá cerca de 124640 pessoas, o que é um número baixo.
Acho que não me enganei.
 
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O Alentejo tem 820000 pessoas e o Algarve tem 426400, isso dá um total de 1246400 (~ 11% da população portuguesa). Se multiplicarmos esse valor por 0.10 ( que representa os 10% de pessoas com mistura sub-sahariana) isso dá cerca de 124640 pessoas, o que é um número baixo.
Acho que não me enganei.

Sim, eu acho que tenho numeros velhos. Mas, em sima de tudo, os estudos geneticos nao sao completamente validos, por causa de metodologias fracas e defeituosas. Isso e certo.
 
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yes, everytime we have to repeat the same things, but some people never learn or simply don't want to learn...
of the total 6% of E1b1b of Iberia about 4.6% is M-81 and it is of paleolithic origin.
Come on, This is not dna-forums !! Here we don't talk about that crap of dna-tribes and other crap studies. This is a serious minded forum

Actually, total E for Iberia averages out to ~ 9%. Portugal registers about 12.5% and Spain 6%. However, Portugal makes up only 1/5 of Iberia, in terms of geography and population. Of the Iberian average, approximately 7.2% is E (M-81), Eurasian / Paleolithic. Technically speaking, E (M-81) should not even be included in the Near-Eastern haplogroup category. With this in mind, TRUE Near-Eastern / Neolithic haplogroups (i.e., E minus M-81, J2, J1 and T) would total ~ 7.2% for Spain and ~ 15.5% for Portugal. It's possible a similar case can be made for France.
 
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I think Wilhelm was talking about Spain but he typed "Iberia" by mistake.
 
To be realistic, since Spain is so close to the continent of Africa, it is inevitable that there is some African blood in the Spanish population which is however predominantly European. The contact made since the Roman times,Muslim invasions, later exploration and colonialism brought that. Perhaps even earlier the first inhabitants of Europe, Cro-Magnons,etc..
 
Actually, the Straights of Gibraltar acted as a much stronger genetic barrier than previously thought. Recent studies clearly indicate that Sub-Saharan and North African DNA frequencies are very low in Spain; lower than countries such as Italy, Austria and France. Also, much of the E in Spain is M-81. This subclade is not Near-Eastern compared to other E (Y-DNA), rather, it is Eurasian. Check the DNA tables on this forum...

Total Near-Eastern (includes North African) Y-DNA for Spain is 12% (if you take out M-81 it is closer to 7%). By comparison, Italy is at 35%, Portugal 25.5% (~15.5% if you do not include M-81), Austria 22% and France 15%.

Sub-Saharan DNA in Spain is trivial and no higher than other European countries. However, it should be stated that some of the Sub-Saharan genetic research for a number of European countries has been criticized as methodologically suspect, due to the inclusion of non-representative samplings, a variety of erroneous assumptions, historical misinterpretation and other issues.
 
To be realistic, since Spain is so close to the continent of Africa, it is inevitable that there is some African blood in the Spanish population which is however predominantly European. The contact made since the Roman times,Muslim invasions, later exploration and colonialism brought that. Perhaps even earlier the first inhabitants of Europe, Cro-Magnons,etc..
Heck, even Scaninavia has african admixture. The mtDNA L has been detected in Norway (1.4%) and Finland (2%). Same level as Spain (1.61%).
 
To be realistic, since Spain is so close to the continent of Africa, it is inevitable that there is some African blood in the Spanish population which is however predominantly European. The contact made since the Roman times,Muslim invasions, later exploration and colonialism brought that. Perhaps even earlier the first inhabitants of Europe, Cro-Magnons,etc..

Nothing new added to the thread...
 
Newcomers just keep repeating embarrassingly erroneous information. Why?
:useless:
 
New study about Zamora

There is a very interesting new study by Luis Alvarez 2010 about "Mitochondrial DNA patterns in the Iberian Northern plateau: Population dynamics and substructure of the Zamora province".

The authors found 10 L mtDna sub-saharan lineages out of 214 which gives 4.70% in the province of Zamora.

Quote from the authors :
"One of the distinctions between the mtDNA composition of the Iberian Peninsula with respect to other European populations is the presence of North African and sub-Saharan lineages [for revision, see Arroyo-Pardo et al. (2007)]. In Zamora, both North African and sub- Saharan mtDNA lineages were found"


L lineages mtDNA frequencies

So here are a new summary of the L lineages mtDNA frequencies found in Spain including this new study by Alvarez. This includes ALL the data ever published so far about Spain (1680 distinct individuals from continental Spain and 531 from Spanish Islands)

1) Continental Spain

Spain, northwestern : 8/216 =3.70%, Achilli 2007
Spain, central : 1/148 =0.68%, Achilli 2007
Spain, Andalusia: 2/114 =1.75%, Achilli 2007
Spain, northeastern : 3/179 =1.68%, Achilli 2007
Spain, Basque Country: 1/156 =0.64%, Achilli 2007
Spain, all regions : 9/312 =2.90%, Alvarez 2007
Spain, Pyreneans : 0/233 =0.00%, Lopez-Parra 2009
Spain, Cordoba : 9/108 =8.30%, Casas 2006 (highest frequency found in Spain)
Spain, Zamora: 10/214 =4.70%, Luis Alvarez 2010

Total continental Spain : 43/1680 = 2.55 %

2) Islands

Spain, Balearic : 5/231 =2.20%, Picornell 2005
Spain, Canaries : 20/300 =6.60%, Brehm 2003

3) All Spain

Of course it does not make sense at all to average regions with totally different histories like Basque Country (lowest frequency in Spain) or the province of Cordoba (highest frequency in Spain at 8.30%, almost similar to South Portugal) , and because northern populations are overrepresented in the studies, but if we want to do it we get :

All Spain (including Balearic and Canaries) : 68/2211= 3.07%

==Sources==

a) Achilli 2007 (Mitochondrial DNA Variation of Modern Tuscans Supports the Near Eastern Origin of Etruscans) aggregated data from the following sources :

Salas 1998, mtDNA analysis of the Galician population: a genetic edge of European variation.
Richards 2000, Tracing European founder lineages in the Near Eastern mtDNA pool
Crespillo 2000, Mitochondrial DNA sequences for 118 individuals from northeastern Spain
Larruga 2001, Mitochondrial DNA characterisation of European isolates: the Maragatos from Spain
Plaza 2003, Joining the pillars of Hercules: mtDNA sequences show multidirectional gene flow in the western Mediterranean.
González 2003, Mitochondrial DNA affinities at the Atlantic fringe of Europe

b) Others studies not included by Achilli 2007

Brehm 2003, Mitochondrial portraits of the Madeira and Açores archipelagos witness different genetic pools of its settlers
Picornell 2005, Mitochondrial DNA HVRI Variation in Balearic Populations
Casas 2006, Human Mitochondrial DNA Diversity in an Archaeological Site in al-Andalus: Genetic Impact of Migrations from North Africa in Medieval Spain
Alvarez 2007, Characterization of human control region sequences for Spanish individuals in a forensic mtDNA data set
Lopez-Parra 2009, Preliminary results of mitochondrial DNA sequence variation in Spanish Pyrenean populations
Luis Alvarez 2010, Mitochondrial DNA Patterns in the Iberian Northern Plateau: Population Dynamics and Substructure of the Zamora Province

Pereira 2005 (African Female Heritage in Iberia) analysed 496 samples from the studies above and did not include any new Spanish samples.


HLA Data

Hla data are also a good indicator of sub-saharan ancestry as they are transmitted by all lines

In Spain, the average figure for this African haplotype is 2.4%, whereas in other non-Mediterranean European populations that value is nearly eight times lower (0.3%)

1) Studies about HLA data found similar frequencies of HLA GM*1,17 23' 5* haplotype which is considered a genetic marker of sub-Saharan Africa. (HLA data are autosomal markers and can be inherited from any ancestors instead of only directly through the paternal or maternal line).

The 2 regions with highest frequencies are also Galicia and Andalusia as with mtDNA

Sub-saharan HLA haplotype GM*1,17 23' 5* in Spain (Reported by Calderon 2005) :

Spain, Galicia (357), 4.50%, Calderon et al. (2007)
Spain, Andalusia Huelva (252), 3.80%, Calderon et al. (2006)
Spain, Pyrenean Pallars Sobira (178), 3.70%, Giraldo et al. (2001)
Spain, Pas Mountains (98), 2.50%, Esteban et al. (1998)
Spain, Vizcaya Basques (86), 2.30%, Calderon et al. (1998)
Spain, Guipuzcoa Basques (97), 2.10%, Calderon et al. (1998)
Spain, Valencia (186), 1.90%, Schanfield et al. (1981)
Spain, Pyrenean Aran valley (210), 1.50%, Giraldo et al. (1998)
Spain, Navarre Basques (118), 1.30%, Calderon et al. (2000)
Spain, Alava Basques (122), 1.20%, Calderon et al. (1998)

According to Calderon 2005 about Galicia :

"The GM*1,17 23' 5* haplotype is considered a genetic marker of sub-Saharan Africa, where it shows frequencies of about 80% (Excoffier et al. 1991). A relatively moderate frequency (3.80%) of this haplotype, similar to that found in populations from Galicia (4.5%) and the Pyrenees (3.70%; Giraldo et al. 2001), was observed in Huelva.. this haplotype's frequency ranges between 1% and 3% in most Spanish populations".


According to Calderon 2007 about Andalusia :

"Galician population shows a genetic profile for GM haplotypes that is defined by the high presence of the European Mediterranean GM*3 23 5* haplotype, and the relatively high incidence of the African marker GM*1,17 23´ 5*... The GM*1,17 23´ 5* haplotype shows a peak in Galicia (4.5%), although values of around 4% have also been found in the Aran valley in the Pyrenees... In Spain, the average figure for this African haplotype is 2.4%, whereas in other non-Mediterranean European populations that value is nearly eight times lower (0.3%). Although some researchers have associated African traces in Iberia to Islamic invasions, the presence of GM*1,17 23´ 5* haplotype in the Galician population may in fact be due to more ancient processes"

==HLA data Sources==

Calderon et al. (2006), Genetic position of Andalusians from Huelva in relation to other European and North African populations: a study based on GM and KM allotypes.(genetic markers)
Calderon et al. (2007), GM and KM immunoglobulin allotypes in the Galician population: new insights into the peopling of the Iberian Peninsula


Autosomal DNA

In 2009 a study by Moorjani 2009, "Characterizing the history of sub-Saharan African gene flow into southern Europe" estimated the proportion of African admixture in southern Europe and found an autosomal sub-saharan proportion of 2.4% in whole Spain using hundred of thousands SNPs.

Characterizing the history of sub-Saharan African gene flow into southern Europe. P. Moorjani1, N. Patterson2, J. Hirschhorn1,3, D. Reich1,2 1) Department of Genetics, Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA; 2) Broad Institute, Cambridge, MA; 3) Divisions of Endocrinology and Genetics and Program in Genomics, Children's Hospital, Boston, MA.

Recent analyses of whole-genome SNP data sets have suggested a history of sub-Saharan African ancestral contribution into southern Europe but not in northern Europe, consistent with previous analyses based on the Y-chromosome and mitochondrial DNA. However, there has been no characterization of the proportion of African admixture in southern Europe, or of its date. Here we analyze data from ~450,000 autosomal SNPs in the Population Reference Sample, ~650,000 SNPs from the Human Genome Diversity Panel, and ~1.5 million SNPs from the HapMap Phase 3 Project, and studied patterns of correlation in allele frequencies across populations to confirm the evidence of African ancestry in many southern European populations but not in northern Europeans. Using methods that can infer admixture proportions in the absence of accurate ancestral populations, we estimated that the proportion of sub-Saharan African ancestry in Spain is 2.4 +/- 0.3%, in Tuscany 1.5 +/- 0.3%, and in Greece 1.9 +/- 0.7% (1 standard error). We also studied the decay of admixture linkage disequilibrium with genetic distance, which provided a preliminary estimate of the date of African gene flow into Spain of roughly 60 generations ago, or about 1,700 years ago assuming 28 years per generation. This date is consistent with the historically known movement of individuals of North African ancestry into Spain, although it is possible that this estimate also reflects a wider range of mixture times.

So again it is an average with probably wide ranging variation from 0% to 5% but it is interesting to see that all data (mtDna, HLA and Autosomal) found a similar average sub-saharan ancestry estimation of about 2.5% in Spain most likely due to indirect North African contribution (neolithic or historical) rather than direct sub-saharan through slave. trade.
 
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