Yetos
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I do believe so, but even without the spy satellite infrared images or the call from rebels to Russian handlers I would be hard pressed to offer a logical solution other than the rebels or the Russians shot it down. Tell me, do you think someone else would have done it?
I Believe that we have another civil war in Europe, and as civil war we must face it,
No I do not believe goverments anymore, especially in such cases,
may I remind you that no matter my personal feelings, in Iraq when G. Bush wanted to enter, we were told that chemichals, nuclear, etc etc are there, did you see something after the Iraq occupation?
what I am saying, is that we need vital solution there, according people's demands, not according Putin's or Obama's will.
the 2 certain things until now are that plane was flying at level 330 according Eurocontrol and assume by BUK missile, which both sides have.
I have't seen somewhere about that infrared videos etc you say, until given to media, officially does not exist such thing.
besides do you exclude that Putin's plane and Malaisian lines plane had a less than 1/2 hour same corridor same height flight, do you exclude a mistake?
I can not,
we can not judge according our feelings, but with facts, and since until today I haven't seen that infrared video we can not judge according a Hypothetical existance of a video,
if such thing existed, it should run to net and media fast so people to see and believe, if given 15 days after what makes certain that is not 'fabricated'.
As also we can not 'consum' that there is a 1/2 hour mistake by Ucraine's nationalists.
SIMPLY WE SPEAK EITHER ABOUT IDIOTS WHO SHUT A CIVILIAN PLANE,
EITHER A STUPID (SMART?) AIRLINE COMPANY THAT LOST 2 PLANES ONE IN SOUTH INDIAN OCEAN AND ONE IN UKRAINE
I wonder why we do not know who shut the first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
does that makes you worry?
to remind you
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-more-images-show-possible-jet-debris-in-south-indian-ocean/
could both crashes be a company or factory mistake?
but we all see according our will and not 'open wide', and 'hide from media is sometimes a crime, same as to quide media.