Maleth
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According to a new study by Trombetta et al.2015 (http://gbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2015/06/23/gbe.evv118.short?rss=1), E-V13 (like E-V22) is now under a new E-V1083.
What is very interesting is that E-V1083* was found only in Eritrea (1.1%) and Sardinia (0.3%) and nowhere else among the 5 222 individuals from 116 populations from previous studies that were analysed.
So E-V13's parent clade (E-V1083) almost surely originated in East Africa, then from North Africa crossed the mediterranean to Sardinia. So the hypothesis that E-V13 and other E1b1b lineages came to the Balkans from the southern Levant via Anatolia during the Neolithic seems now obsolete... The absence of E-V1083* in the Middle East makes a maritime spread between northern Africa and southern Europe a more plausible hypothesis.
- E-M78
- E-M78*
- E-V1477
- E-V1083.
- E-V1083*. Found in Eritreans and Sardinians.
- E-V13
- E-V22
- E-V1129
- E-V12
- E-V12*
- E-V32
- E-V264
- E-V259. Found in North Cameroon.
- E-V65
Thanks for posting this HQ. I had a quick look but will be reading it in detail later. Unfortunately the paper mostly seem to concentrates on the v1515 which co relates with sub saharan clades. There is no mention of E-V1038. (I try to look for this E-V1083 maybe in other sources. In regards to E-V13 it more or less confirms earlier studies, and it does not make any references to how it entered in Europe. Personally I do not consider the findings in Sardenia and Eritrea as a proof of a crossing of this subclade from North Africa to South Europe espesially in the absense of any E-V1038 in North Africa proper. If we have to use this logic then we can say that it flew there (from Eritrea to Sardenia) so to speak. This is of particular interest to E-V13 and confirmes earlier findings.
(quote). Another striking aspect of ourdating is the previously unappreciated large difference in the age between haplogroup EM215(38.6 kya; 95% CI 31.4-45.9 kya) and its sub-haplogroup E-M35 (25.0 kya; 95% CI20.0-30.0 kya). Within the E-V68 sub-clade, the M78 mutation arose in a time windowbetween 20.3 kya (95% CI 16.2-25.4 kya) and 14.M8 kya (95% CI 11.6-18.5 kya), namely the TMRCA for E-V68 and E-78, respectively. The TMRCA of E-V13 chromosomes (8.1 kya;95% CI 5.6-10.8 kya) is consistent with a previous hypothesis about a post-Neolithicexpansion of this haplogroup in Europe (Cruciani et al 2004; 2007).(unquote)
Another thing is that many past papers have been quoted and refered to so I very much doubt if anyone can say that previous findings could be considered obsolete