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According to this White Croatia wasn't the original land of Croats at all. Being called White means that they were already on a move to current location, West from original position. Perhaps even in current or very close to current location, West location, White location.The epithets "white" for Croats and their homeland Croatia, as well "great" (megali) for Croatia, is in relation to the symbolism used in ancient times. The epithet "white" is related to the use of colors for cardinal directions among Eurasian people. It meant "Western Croats", in comparison to lands where they lived before. The epithet "great" signified "subsequently populated" land, but also "old, ancient, former"[17] homeland for newly arrived Croats to the Roman province of Dalmatia.[18][19][20]
According to this White Croatia wasn't the original land of Croats at all. Being called White means that they were already on a move to current location, West from original position. Perhaps even in current or very close to current location, West location, White location.
http://news-bar.rtl.hr/vijesti/regija/lingvisti-sloni-hrvati-i-srbi-govore-istim-jezikom-makedonskim
Linguists agree: Croats and Serbs speak the same language - Macedonian!
After their colleagues from other scientific fields published an amazing discovery, and linguists from the Institute "Franjo Arapovic" finally completed extensive research on the languages of the South Slavs. And their findings deny even Miroslav Krleza.
- Croatian and Serbian are two separate languages, they are only dialects of the original language spoken by the South Slavs. Nearest the original South Slav Macedonians language so we can say that the Macedonian language is spoken in Serbia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Croatia, but in these countries only use a slightly different dialects. Just all these nations developed their little fun dialects - explained linguists in the conclusion of scientific work.
In the study by experts from the Institute "Franjo Arapovic" carefully examined the development of words paying special attention to the words that are not the same in Macedonia and one of the later formed dialects. A notable example of the word "ubavo", which, for example, Croats and Serbs took the word "good" in most of the Croatian or "good" in a large part of Serbia and Zagorje. At the same time the Macedonian words "beautiful" have given a new, completely opposite meaning by adding the letter G in front of it.
- Our research has no errors. I used to think that the Serbian and Croatian two separate languages, but I was wrong. This study and its conclusions are irrefutable. Serbs and Croats speak the same language - Macedonian - briefly commented linguist Sanda Ham.
Renowned linguists add an amendment regarding scientific article. They found that the Bulgarian language is not the same as Macedonian. With the help of historians have discovered that, for the dissemination of the old Slavic tribes Macedonians in Bulgaria probably gone and one Macedonian speech impairments so they Slavicized Bulgarians accepted fact Macedonian with a speech impediment, which today mostly in only slightly modified version.
How are the results of this research persuasive, and it shows as numerous universities worldwide, but the day after the publication was renamed the Department of South Slavic languages at the Department of Macedonian language.
In the study by experts from the Institute "Franjo Arapovic"
Ethnonyms Croat in toponymia..
When it comes to toponyms with a motivated Croatian name outside of Croatia, it is worth mentioning the village Hrvati (Croats) near Tuzla and Kladnja (Bosnia), as well as the Gornji i Donji Hrvati (Upper and Lower Croats) near Zvornik (Bosnia) in Podrinje(border between Bosnia and Serbia) from where the last Catholics left in Srijem and Bačka (Serbia) at the beginning of the 18th century. Under Avala(hill) in Belgrade (capital city of Serbia) until the 19th century there was exist Rvatsko Selo (Croatian village) at the beginning of the 19th century. On the way between Novi Pazar on Sandzak (Serbia) and Leposavic in Kosovo lies village Hrvatska (Croatia), and village Hrvatske Mohve (Croatian Mohve, after 1945 the village was renamed to Vučje Lokve). Near Podgorica ( capital of Montenegro) there was village of Rvatska Stubica (Croatian Stubica). In the area of former Red Croatia (Part of Bosnia and Hecegovina, Montenegro and part of Albania) Croatian name was quite common during the Ottoman rule. Thus Spičani (the inhabitants of the area between Budva and Bar(Montenegro)) called themselves Red Croats, Porta called them Croats and their leader Croat. The Croatian name in the toponym is also confirmed in Ohrid, Prespa and Bitola (Macedonia), near the Marathon Field(Greece) and not far from Mycenae(Greece),
May 4, 2017
In fact there is still only one known man who is CTS10228+ S17250- Y4460- Z17855- A2512-, he has paternal ancestry from southeastern Poland.
Stiljsko, southwestern Ukraine ..From VI. until the 9th century
of this micro-region in intercourse
rivers Barvinka, Ilovac, Kolodnica and
The tooth, which is left by Dnjistra,
gave insight into existence in IX. one
of the largest in East Timor
a region with a strong fortified Croatian
city. Its fortified area
it is almost 250 ha long and the length of the defenses
the line reaches 10 km. Around
on a site of 200 km2
.
there were numerous Croatian sites
VI.-XI. (naseobine, gradina, grobi-
what, cult centers). Found rich
Archaeological material proves that it was old
Croatian township functioned in
time from the middle of the IX. to the beginning of XI.
Among the names on the tablets are those of three men: Horoúathos, Horoáthos, and Horóathos (Χορούαθ[ος], Χοροάθος, Χορόαθος). Those names scholars interpret as anthroponyms of the Croatian ethnonym Hrvat.
The Tablet A is the larger and older inscription, dated to 175-211 AD
The personal names on the Tanais Tablets are considered as a proto-type of a certain ethnonym of a Sarmatian tribe those persons did descend from,] and as well today is generally accepted that the Croatian name is of Iranian origin and that can be traced to the Tanains Tablets.
In 1861, in the statistical data about population in Volhynia governorship released by Mikhail Lebedkin, were counted Horvati with 17,228 people.
Volýn) is a historic region in Central and Eastern Europe straddling Poland, Ukraine and Belarus
DNA analysis shows that the medieval individual Sungir 6 (730-850 cal BP) belong to mtDNA Haplogroup W3a1 and Y-DNA Haplogroup I2a1b2.
The calls show that Sungir 6 belonged to Y haplogroup I2a1b2a1a1a1a3-A16681.
I-S20602
Subgroup: I2a2 'Dinaric' ..L621>CTS10228>S20602/YP196 (S17250- Y4460- Z17855- A2512-) (I-S20602/YP196*)
Name: Not Disclosed
Kit Number: 56266
Earliest Known Ancestor: N/A
Marker Location: Gmina Dębica, Poland
I-CTS4002
Subgroup: I2a2 'Disles B' (I-CTS4002*) P37+ M423+ L621+ CTS10936+ CTS4002+ FGC20479- CTS10228-
Name: Not Disclosed
Kit Number: N113464
Earliest Known Ancestor: N/A
Marker Location: Moskorzew, Poland
R1a
Vaclav Charvat, b. 1894 Czech Republic R-L260 Z282>PF6155>M458>PF7521>L260>YP1337
Primož Hrovatin, b. 1780 Slovenia R-M512
Z282>PF6155>M458>PF7521>L260>YP1337
Andras Endre Horvath, b.c.1920 Menfo,Gyor,Hungary Hungary R-M512
Z282>PF6155>M458>PF7521>L260>YP256>YP254>Y2905
Kroboth Austria R-M512
R1a1a1b1a1a (M458+ L260+)
226920 Horvath Austria I2a-P37
325181 Horvath Hungary R1b-M269
N59833 Horvat Croatia I1-M253
650445 Horváth Hungary J-FGC41825
N49136 Horvat Slovenia R1a-M198
28392 Horvat Slovakia R1a-M198
314821 Horvath Hungary Q-M242
328212 Horvath USA I2a2a-M223
R-M198
Subgroup: >Z280>CTS1211>Y35>CTS3402>YP237>YP235>YP234>YP295 (YP295 not tested; Big Y or Z280 SNP Pack needed)
Name: Not Disclosed
Subgroup:>Z280>CTS1211>Y35>CTS3402>YP237>YP235>YP234>YP295>L366-B (Big Y needed)
Name: Not Disclosed
Kit Number: 251078
Earliest Known Ancestor: N/A
Marker Location: Mostar, Bósnia-Herzegovina
Subgroup:>Z280>CTS1211>Y35>CTS3402>YP237>YP235>YP234>YP295>L366-x1 (L366, more STRs and/or Big Y needed)
Name: Not Disclosed
Kit Number: 388203
Earliest Known Ancestor: N/A
Marker Location: Гацко, Босна и Херцеговина
Denis Jevgenjevic Alimov, 38-year-old associate professor of Slavic and Balkan universities in St. Petersburg, author of the recently published an intriguing book "Croat Etnogenesis"-......Question.. Can it be said that Croats and Serbs in those ancient times were one tribe, that they arrived together in these lands?........Answer...With great certainty we can argue that even in those ancient times Croats and Serbs were not one tribe. They are bordered with each other, permeated for centuries, but there is no evidence that they ever were a common tribe or clan.
It should be known that the Serbs are descended from the unbaptized Serbs, also called 'white', who live beyond Turkey, in a region called by Boïki, where their neighbor is Francia
Now, after the two brothers succeeded their father in the rule of Serbia, one of them, taking one half of the folk, came as the refugee to Heraclius, the emperor of the Romaioi, and the same Emperor Heraclius received him and gave him a region in the theme of Thessalonica to settle in,
Then, after some time these same Serbs decided to depart totheir own homes
And since what is now Serbia and Pagania and the so-called country of the Zachlumians and Terbounia and the country of the Kanalites were under the dominion of the emperor of the Romaioi, and since these countries had been made desolate by the Avars (for theyhad expelled from those parts of the Romans who now live in Dalmatia and Dyrrachium), the emperor settled these same Serbs in these countries,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SanskritSanskrit (/ˈsænskrɪt/; Sanskrit: संस्कृतम्, translit. saṃskṛtam, pronounced [sə̃skr̩t̪əm] (listen)) is a language of ancient India with a history going back about 3,500 years.
It is interesting that in Sanskrit exist and Croatian Slavic words, only candidate (for now) who brought those words to Sanskrit is haplotype R1a, Z93 branch.
Why is not possible that it was "always" in Slavic and Balto-Slavic vocabulary? It is not secret that there was perhaps in ancient times Balto-Slavic-Indo-Iranian stage. And it's possible that both of them (Sanskrit and Slavic) picked up this words from ancient times, and no one "brought" it to Slavic. If anyone can prove that vulgar Slavic word "jebati" is derived from Sanskrit, then we should give him nobel prize. Since it's not derivation, but common inherited word from Proto-Indo-European language.
The striking similarities in Sanskrit and Russian indicate that during some period of history, the speakers of the two languages lived close together.
The linguistically proven facts show the amazing affinity of Russian and Sanskritlanguages, obviously pointing out that these two languages must have lived closed together in some periods of antiquity.
Sanskrit is an Old Indo-Aryan language. As one of the oldest documented members of the Indo-European family of languages, Sanskrit holds a prominent position in Indo-European studies. It is related to Greek and Latin
Kairyaka Necropolis
R1a1a1b2-F992
1750-1625 BC
https://yhrd.org/tools/branch/R1a-Z93The Y-SNP branch R1a-Z93 is defined by F992,
Anatolians were Indo-European peoples of the Near East identified by their use of the Anatolian languages.[1] These peoples were among the oldest Indo-European ethnolinguistic groups, one of the most archaic, because Anatolians were the first or among the first branches of Indo-European peoples to separate from the initial Proto-Indo-European community that gave origin to the individual Indo-European peoples
The Anatolian languages are an extinct family of Indo-European languages that were spoken in Asia Minor (ancient Anatolia), the best attested of them being the Hittite language.
Luwian was among the languages spoken during the 2nd and 1st millennia BC by groups in central and western Anatolia and northern Syria
First of all, Lithuanian is a very old language. It is related to Sanskrit (a classical language of India) Latin and Ancient Greek.
Pre-Anatolian (before 3500 BCE)Pre-Tocharian
Pre-Celtic and Pre-Italic (before 2500 BCE)
[Pre-Germanic?]
Pre-Armenian and Pre-Greek (after 2500 BCE)
[Pre-Germanic?
Pre-Balto-Slavic
Proto-Indo-Iranian (2000 BCE)
- Pre-Anatolian (4200 BCE)
- Pre-Tocharian (3700 BCE)
- Pre-Germanic (3300 BCE)
- Pre-Celtic and Pre-Italic (3000 BCE)
- Pre-Armenian (2800 BCE)
- Pre-Balto-Slavic (2800 BCE)
- Pre-Greek (2500 BCE)
Tocharian, also spelled Tokharian(/təˈkɛəriən/ or /təˈkɑːriən/), is an extinct branch of the Indo-European language family. It is known from manuscripts dating from the 6th to the 8th century AD
Only haplotype who could come from that common place to India is R1a Z93. Sanskrit is 3500 years old. There are many words which are similar in these languages and from time period when vocabulary was much smaller.
Most likely, there was in ancient times Balto-Slavic-Indo-Iranian stage of language. Then why is weird if some languages are common for Sanskrit and Slavic? (*jebati , sansk. "yabhati", *ljubiti , sansk. "lyubhati")... etc...)
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