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He is no longer close to me on FTDNA or even shown from 12-25 marker levels. Was he confirmed CTS8862+?
as of today.............my yfull is still be analysed .........I am IT-TV below
from branch
T-L131S12150 * Y6030/FGC22987 * CTS7239+39 SNPsformed 16000 ybp, TMRCA 11100 ybpinfo
- T-L131*
- T-CTS54 Z19926 * Z19902 * CTS6769+26 SNPsformed 6600 ybp, TMRCA 3600 ybpinfo
- T-CTS54*
- id:YF06979USA [US-VA]
- id:NA20758TSI
- T-CTS8489 CTS10538 * CTS8489 * Z19953+5 SNPsformed 3600 ybp, TMRCA 2600 ybpinfo
- id:YF07608ITA [IT-TV]new
- T-CTS8489*
- id:ERS256892ITA [IT-CA]
- T-Y17493Y17497 * Y17499 * Y17500+11 SNPsformed 2600 ybp, TMRCA 375 ybpinfo
- id:YF04232
- id:YF04203USA [US-NC]
- T-Z19945Z19945 * CTS1848formed 2600 ybp, TMRCA 2600 ybpinfo
- id:YF07168BEL [BE-WHT]
- id:HG01051PUR
- id:HG01530IBS
I am confirmed positive for Z19945 , same as the bottom group, but I am confirmed negative for CTS1848 , while bottom group are positive for CTS1848.
note: YF are ftdna tested people and HG and ERS are samples tested from written papers
I saw CTS1848 is an equivalent SNP to Z19945. I am positive for CTS1848 according to FTDNA but I saw in your earlier post that it is "recurrent and unreliable". As for the other FTDNA matches, mine have not been updated and do not go past 25 markers...
He is close to me ................actually closer than this new one below
@Sile, where is the Bowen individual from?
Birthdate: | September 18, 1627 |
Birthplace: | Glamorganshire, Wales |
Birthdate: | circa 1580 |
Birthplace: | Ilston, Glamorganshire, Wales Died February 4, 1674 in Rehoboth, Plymouth Colony |
someone else gave me this: Owen Bowen Welsh: Owain Bowen
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This is interesting news, since I am CTS1848+ based on FTDNA's SNP list I would be placed in the terminal clade with Bernot and the two other Hispanics.
On the T Project, assessing the SNP lists of the members I notice that Bernot, Cockley/Caquelin, and I are the only ones that are CTS1848+. For some reason we are also the only three to have CTS1848 tested for and in our SNP lists...
remember that the "HG" are not personal testers, they are from scientific papers
and
Bernot states his ancestors ( they are French ) went with the Spanish after the Spanish lost the Netherlands ............so
bernot - french
caquelin - french
and yourself ?.........I cannot remember what you found
and finally,,,,,my line is 600 years older than Bernot line for TMRCA
According to what I have found thus far, my line is most likely Galician-Portuguese in origin... so NW Spain.
It's about 2500 years to the common ancestor of Bernot, Caquelin, the two Hispanic individuals from YFull (science papers, as you said), and I, equaling about 550 BCE.
I think so as well...........but your line did not come to iberia via the med, but more likely via the danube and central and eastern europe .
I agree. Based on the timings and origin of our surnames/lines, I think it is indicative of being dispersed by Indo-Europeans, maybe Celts or related groups. Requires more research to find out which is most likely...
Haplogroup | Selected SNP | Known SNP | Novels | Unrounded age (ybp) | Rounded age (ybp) | Age by all samples (ybp) |
− T-Z19945 | 21 | 1 | 20 | 3410 | 3400 (2200-5100) | 3100 (2200-4100) |
− T-CTS8489 | 22 | 2 | 20 | 3570 | 3600 (2300-5300) | 3100 (2200-4100) |
− T-CTS54 | 27 | 7 | 20 | 4368 | 4400 (3000-6200) | 3700 (2900-4700) |
− T-CTS933 | 50 | 30 | 20 | 8037 | 8000 (6100-10400) | 6800 (5700-7800) |
− T-Y6033 | 53 | 33 | 20 | 8516 | 8500 (6500-11000) | 7800 (6600-9000) |
− T-L131 | 64 | 44 | 20 | 10271 | 10300 (8000-12900) | 11000 (9700-12500) |
− T-L206 | 91 | 71 | 20 | 14578 | 14600 (11900-17700) | 16000 (14700-17300) |
@Sile
No, I do not see Fiedler as a match. My FTDNA matches have not changed for a long time and the newest update drastically decreased my list of matches.
I was a little wary of self-designating myself as T-CTS1848. FTDNA has me as T-CTS8862 and the T Project still places me in the unmatched CTS8862 group. My tested SNP list from FTDNA says I'm CTS1848+ but does not include Z19945. YFull has CTS1848 as downstream from Z19945 so I guess I must be positive for it also?
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