Tomenable
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Angela,
Can you link that post?
I'm not really convinced, so far you just have not posted enough sources to support these claims.
How is heterogeneity of a genome being measured? How do you measure variation of appearance?
You linked one source about heterogeneity of Ashkenazim, but nothing about Slavs for comparison. I was trying to find some publications estimating the effective population size of ancestors of Slavs at the beginning of the Migration Period, but I could not find anything.
When comparing variation in appearance, did you include only 100% Jews, or also mixed people?
It is not a secret that in the USA a lot of Jewish-American people are only partially Jewish today.
Or maybe you are getting your "Slavic appearance" thing from "Der Untermensch", Berlin 1942 ???
Also I suspect that you might be thinking about Uralic appearance and calling it "Slavic" by mistake.
Yes, Jews have more heterogeneous Y-DNA. But they have less heterogeneous mtDNA.
40% of Ashkenazi mtDNA comes from just 4 women (K1a1b1a1, N1b2, K1a9 and K2a2a1).
not everyone is breathlessly waiting to read about some reservoir of WHG. I posited it existed more than two years ago and that the steppe people picked up their genes in their move into central Europe. I also proposed maybe they were even R1b.
Can you link that post?
Ashkenazim have a much more heterogeneous genome than do Poles or eastern Europeans in general. They have more variation in terms of "appearance". The genomes of all Europeans are not equally homogeneous. Southern Europeans are more heterogeneous than northern Europeans and certainly than Slavs. They also have more variation in "appearance".
I'm not really convinced, so far you just have not posted enough sources to support these claims.
How is heterogeneity of a genome being measured? How do you measure variation of appearance?
You linked one source about heterogeneity of Ashkenazim, but nothing about Slavs for comparison. I was trying to find some publications estimating the effective population size of ancestors of Slavs at the beginning of the Migration Period, but I could not find anything.
When comparing variation in appearance, did you include only 100% Jews, or also mixed people?
It is not a secret that in the USA a lot of Jewish-American people are only partially Jewish today.
It seems like you're getting your pictures and point of view from Julius Streicher.
Or maybe you are getting your "Slavic appearance" thing from "Der Untermensch", Berlin 1942 ???
Also I suspect that you might be thinking about Uralic appearance and calling it "Slavic" by mistake.
By all means focus on a throw away sentence about yDna (which your response did not rebut, btw)
Yes, Jews have more heterogeneous Y-DNA. But they have less heterogeneous mtDNA.
40% of Ashkenazi mtDNA comes from just 4 women (K1a1b1a1, N1b2, K1a9 and K2a2a1).