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Fascinating! Do you have any known Georgian ancestry? (as quite some people in Turkey do)
What's the kit number of the Georgian match?
You can pm me if you prefer.
South_Central_Asian | 21.14% |
Near_Eastern | 19.33% |
East_Med | 16.71% |
North_Caucasian | 16.30% |
Armenian | 12.64% |
Italian | 3.74% |
West_Caucasian | 3.68% |
East_Balkan | 3.02% |
Arabian | 2.79% |
East_Central_Euro | 0.53% |
Basque | 0.11% |
I'm a Kurd (unmixed)
At the same time when Turks arrived in Anatolia. Also as far as I know my ancestors were not mixing with non-Kurds for the last 300 years or something even after they left Kurdistan. According to Dienekes K12b I'm almost 30 % Gedrosia, same average like other Kurds. Also I'm sure that that South_Central_Asian and Gedrosia is NATIVE to the Iranian Plateau!No need to mention that always. You are not more unmixed than most other Kurds. The Yezidi Caste system was introduced by Sheik Adi roughly 1100 AD.
Before that Yezidis mixing up of Yezidis with non Yezidis was not forbidden and there are accounts for this has happened.
The South_Central Asian in Eurogenes K36 is equivalent to Eurogenes K13 West-Central Asian and to Dienekes "Gedrosia".
My paternal grandmother has a name "Leyli" which is a Georgian name and i think means "Leyla" in Turkish if it is not a typo by the officer in registry office. Typo was very common during the time of transition from Arabic to Latin .
I sent an e-mail to my Georgian match, no answer yet. I will tell you his kit number right after i get approval of him. He is a known one in geneology field by many.
I would like to ask you a question. Because i only have one match in my 25 marker list and he is a Georgian, does it mean my paternal side is Georgian?
Yes, it's quite possible that if you have only one 25 marker match and its with Georgian that it indicates a Georgian ancestry. Plus considering close links of North-Eastern Turkey with Georgian kingdom.
I believe that R1b persons account is managed by my fellow admin of Georgian DNA project J. Gogitidze and not the person tested himself.
Has anyone tried a new calculator?
http://bga101.blogspot.com.es/2013/03/eurogenes-k36-at-gedmatch.html
My results:
31.04% North_Caucasian
18.68% West_Caucasian
16.76% Near_Eastern
15.57% East_Mediterranean
10.87% Armenian
4.91% South_Central_Asian
2.04% East_Balkan
You can download the necessary files from here:
https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=5223...re&Bpub=SDX.SkyDrive&authkey=!AshoKjpmkqRu3tw
At the same time when Turks arrived in Anatolia. Also as far as I know my ancestors were not mixing with non-Kurds for the last 300 years or something even after they left Kurdistan. According to Dienekes K12b I'm almost 30 % Gedrosia, same average like other Kurds. Also I'm sure that that South_Central_Asian and Gedrosia is NATIVE to the Iranian Plateau!
Don't know much about phenotypes. Phenotypes are like an optical illusion, you can look very different than what your DNA is telling. So I don't pay much attention to phenotypes.Yes for 300 years, but before Sheik Adis Cast System there was mixing of Yezidis with others. I know Yezidis who look hardcore Levantine like Lebanese than I know a Yezidi Singer who shows very strong East Asian physical features. This is my point so you might be relatively unmixed but not much more than other Kurds. Thats the point
Kurdish average Gedrosia is 28%, so yes you are pretty average for Kurd. South_Central Asian(21%) of K36 and West_Central Asian of K13 (22%), Gedrosia (28%) are not 1:1 the same but very similar just with different names.
Btw, there was already a some kind of 'CLASS' system before Shex Adi. The distinction 'Mridi' and Pirs existed already in Kurdistan before the reforms of the Kurdish native religion.but before Sheik Adis Cast System there was mixing of Yezidis with others.
Don't know much about phenotypes. Phenotypes are like an optical illusion, you can look very different than what your DNA is telling. So I don't pay much attention to phenotypes.
I don't know exactly what you mean, but if you mean that there was (and is) almost no mixing between Kurds and our 'Islamic' neighbours after the Islam arrived in Kurdistan., I do agree with you. So it's true that Kurds didn't mix much with Turks, Arabs and Persians AFTER Islam.
As you know I'm not a Muslim, but my DNA is practically identical to the DNA of an average Kurd.
I do actually believe that we Kurds don't differ a lot from our ancient (Median) ancestors.
Btw, there was already a some kind of 'CLASS' system before Shex Adi. The distinction 'Mridi' and Pirs existed already in Kurdistan before the reforms of the Kurdish native religion.
22.01% Fennoscandian
18.86% North_Sea
15.02% North_Atlantic
8.34% French
7.94% East_Central_Euro
7.38% Iberian
7.20% Eastern_Euro
6.38% North_Caucasian
5.19% Central_Euro
1.07% Basque
0.41% Amerindian
0.19% Italian
0.01% South_Central_Asian
The North Caucasian seems very strange considering my Norwegian/Finnish heritage...although people have actually been telling me I don't look Norwegian, even other Norwegians at times
These results indeed look very Georgian. Most notable the complete lack of East Eurasian components while average Turkish person has 5-7%. The results are atypical for Turkish standard. You definitely have Caucaus origin.
Arabian 3.30% Armenian 19.12% Basque - Central_African - Central_Euro 0.93% East_African - East_Asian - East_Balkan 0.17% East_Central_Asian - East_Central_Euro - East_Med 12.56% Eastern_Euro - Fennoscandian - French 0.35% Iberian - Indo-Chinese - Italian 7.95% Malayan - Near_Eastern 14.03% North_African - North_Atlantic - North_Caucasian 18.73% North_Sea - Northeast_African - Oceanian - Omotic - Pygmy - Siberian - South_Asian - South_Central_Asian 2.89% South_Chinese - Volga-Ural - West_African - West_Caucasian 16.54% West_Med 3.42%
I am a Turk From Turkey with a HG R-M269.
I have 23 people in my Y-DNA12 match list.
All my matches are European except one who is a Georgian and the only one in my 25 marker match list.
More likely Georgian mixed with Armenians & Greeks. Real Georgians have much more "North Caucasian" and less of "Armenian" (aka South_East_Caucasian).These results indeed look very Georgian. notable the complete lack of East Eurasian components while average Turkish person has 6-7%. The results are atypical for Turkish standard. You definitely have Caucaus origin.
Interesting! Are you a Kurd from Anatolia? Because you have less 'South_Central_Asian' & 'Near_Eastern' & 'North_Caucasian' than I do. But you have more of 'East_Med' & 'West_Caucasian'. I think 'East_Med' & 'West_Caucasian' are more native to Taurus / Eastern Anatolia (North Kurdistan), while 'South_Central_Asian' & 'Near_Eastern' are more from Zagros / Iranian Plateau (Southeast Kurdistan). It's strange that while Northern Kurds are Kurmanji and I'm Kurmanji too, but I do cluster closer to Sorani (Iraqi) Kurds and Eastern Gorani/Feyli (Iranian) Kurds.South_Central_Asian 18.94%
East_Med 18.24%
Near_Eastern 18.06%
North_Caucasian 13.63%
Armenian 11.01%
West_Caucasian 10.29%
Italian 4.03%
Central_Euro 2.75%
Arabian 1.34%
Basque 0.97%
West_Med 0.65%
Iberian 0.08%
East_Balkan 0.02%
I'm sure that the original R*, R1*, R2*, R1a*, R1b*, R2a* were all from "South_Central_Asia", native to the Iranian Plateau, although not sure about 'North_East Iranian Plateau' (Eastern side of the Caspian Sea) or 'West Iranian Plateau' (South_Western side of the Caspian Sea)...It could also be an ancient Eurasian connection through Haplogroup R*.
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