matadworf
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I think it's quite good, actually. I wish I could copy paste the map provided by the creator . It shows, as I said upthread, that the Eastern farmer is indeed not only LBK; it's also Anatolian farmer. It would have come into Italy both from central Europe by means of the northeastern corridor under the Alps, and perhaps directly across the Adriatic, or with Bronze Age movements. The Western European farmer is more Impressa/Cardial, I think, with its incorporated WHG, and the movement of Beaker type farmers into southern France and northern Italy, i.e. the genomes before the arrival of the steppe peoples. I think this is why I always get such high Iberian on calculators based on modern populations. In fact, in some calculators I'm a mix of Iberian and Thessalian, i.e. northern Greece.
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I'm still trying to make sense of the substructure in steppe. Perhaps it's because Yamnaya and Andronovo are north of the Alps movements, which would perhaps mean not much of it made it's way into Italy? There was a big settlement of Alans in central into northern Italy, which I used to "blame" for the 2% East Asian/Korean that I habitually get in some calculators. However, I think it's more likely that this breakdown highlights the different "waves" from the steppe, Yamnaya, then Andronovo like, then more "eastern" like. Wasn't Bronze Age 2 sample like that, with more "eastern", Caucasus like ancestry. Some of my Caucasus is "cloaked" in there.
You know, that's very interesting: does some of the "Caucasus" in northern Italy come from slightly different and "later" steppe people?
@matadworf,
Did you do this a while ago? Someone told me they got some weird results at first, but they changed and made more sense later. Maybe you might want to check it again?
Anyway, my slightly more western and slightly "northern" shift makes sense, I think, even with these results.
@ Angela. Just did it today. Was there something odd about my results? Thanks