Sile
Banned
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- Location
- Australia
- Ethnic group
- North Alpine Italian
- Y-DNA haplogroup
- T1a2 -Z19945..Jura
- mtDNA haplogroup
- H95a1 ..Pannoni
Sile, based on your first point, I can't tell if you are joking or being serious. But I will address your second point.
The population of hunter gatherers was tiny. It is always tiny, when compared to other populations. The lifestyle simply can't support many people per square kilometer, and the women wait 2x longer between kids. These principles are the same the world over.
The population size of the first cereal farmers was bigger, mid-sized you may say. But it was probably ill-adopted to Ireland, and depending largely on climate.
The population size of those with the ability to digest milk, the technology to turn excess grain into alcohol (and not flush), herding (meat when you want it!) was larger; almost modern proportions when you talk about potential mates. The study says this several times.
Ireland is an island. Mountains and island populations often have Founder Effect and Drift affect the sex chromosomes.
Example: one band happens to be mostly Hunter Gatherer patrilines, but farmer autosomally. It lands on an island. Over time, certain of the patrilines will die out by chance. Because it started with a higher percentage HG patrilines, over time that will look even larger. This describes Sardinia.
Another band with mostly Steppe or Beaker or herder patrilines, but mixed autosomally lands on another island. The same forces over time will exaggerate the percentages, based on Founder Effect (who started there) and Drift (who ended up). The isolation helps. This describes Ireland.
most ancient hunter "villages/camps" found in Germany ( northern) did house between 8 to a dozen people.........20% of these places was found a chance that some women where also hunters/skinners( ancient tanners ). the chances of an all male hunting group would be basically non-existent. A typical scenario would be hunters where living with farmers and would leave for 2 to 3 months at a time, then they would return.
This issue that hunters killed off every farmer they saw seems a fabricated dream by some to justify why R1's dominated Europe over time.
The simple fact is that hunters have a leader........who is a chief...who become king...who commands a harem/concubine.............farmers do not need a leader............we still saw this system being applied by the zulus in the 19th century.