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- Ethnic group
- anti-EU/anti-globalization
- Y-DNA haplogroup
- R1b1b2a1b5
- mtDNA haplogroup
- H3
Hello Smertrius:
First, about
"The peculiarities of the Galician population due to its geographical situation in western Europe, and its historical vicissitudes [...] Galicia is shown to be included in the Western-Central European cluster, together with other Spanish populations". Sequence diversity (0.939) and nucleotide diversity (0.0143) are, in general, slightly lower in the Galician population than in the rest ofthe European populations.
"A view of a ‘compact’ prehistoric Atlantic area is also confirmed by the most recent genetic research, which demonstrates that the genetic stock of Galician people is the same as that of the Irish, the Welsh, and the people of Cornwall, and goes back to the Palaeolithic: the name that geneticists have given to this marker is, not by chance, «Atlantic Modal Haplotype». (B. SYKES, Saxons, Vikings, and Celts. The Genetic Roots of Britain and Ireland, New York-London, W.W. Norton & Co., 2006, p. 162)
"The Celtic samples are very homogeneous—the modal haplotype [microsatellite haplotype 15 within hg 1 (haplotype 1.15)] has a frequency of 0.26 in Wales and 0.18 in Ireland--[...]. Haplotype 1.15 is also modal in the Basques and constitutes 0.41". In Galicia SNaPshot multiplexes reactions this frequency is 0.29 in the chromosomes which contains M173 (Eu18 or AMH).
looks to the dark blue in SW, NW, N and NE Spain.
Eu18 and Eu19 characterize about 50% of the European Y chromosomes.
Although they share M173, the two haplotypes show contrasting geographic distribution. The frequency of Eu18 decreases from west to east, being most frequent in Basques. This lineage includes the previously described proto-European lineage that is characterized by the 49a,f haplotype 15. In contrast, haplotype Eu19, which is derived from the M173 lineage and is distinguished by M17, is virtually absent in Western Europe. Its frequency increases eastward and reaches a maximum in Poland, Hungary, and Ukraine, where Eu18 in turn is virtually absent.(cf. Chiaroni Jacques; Underhill Peter A; Cavalli-Sforza Luca L.: Y chromosome diversity, human expansion, drift, and cultural evolution, 2009).
Presence of the M269 marker or R1b3 is the subclade most closely corresponding to Haplotype 15. It is by far the most common in the Iberian Peninsula and the Balearic Islands (66%). It is also the most comun in Galicia 63% (Galician haplogroup-frequency 0.88: cf. Basque 1.16, NW Castilian 1.00, East Andalusia 0.95, Catalonia 0.80, South Portugal 0.78, etc.), with a very low presence of the iberian haplogroup R1b3f: 0.02.
Despite AMH alleles of Ireland seem to correspond better with the NE of Iberia, where R1b3f was a later mutation, that with the Iberian Atlantic facade and Basconia:
Irland, Huesca (Pyrenees), Valencia: DYS388 12, DYS390 24, DYS391 11, DYS392 13, DYS393 13, DYS19 14.
Basconia: DYS388 12, DYS390 24, DYS391 10, DYS392 13, DYS393 13, DYS19 14.
Galicia: DYS388 12, DYS390 23, DYS391 9, DYS392 11, DYS393 13, DYS19 14
"Sobre la base de la proporción de haplogrupos, las poblaciones de Barbagia, Galicia y País Vasco son significativamente diferentes del resto de las poblaciones analizadas. Basándose en las secuencias de mtDNA también se detectó una diferenciación importante de estas poblaciones así como las de las poblaciones de Galura Cerdeña y Cataluña [...] Todos los análisis realizados muestran que la población catalana esta más relacionada con otras poblaciones mediterráneas que con Galicia y el País Vasco". (D. Comas, 2004).
mtDNA analysis of the Galician population, its frequency of the reference sequence reaches in Galicians its maximum value in Europe.The results place Galicians on the genetic edge of the European variation, bringing together all the traits of a cul-de-sac population with a striking similarity to the Basque population.
From later Cro-Magnon remains from southern Italy it has been found that early Europeans were of the mtDNA-Haplogroup HV or pre-HV with Celts and Basques being around 60% descendant mtDNA-Haplogroup H (Welsh 59.8%, Galicians 59.2%, Basques 57.8% Piedmont 56.8%, Valencians 53.33%).
Only the Insular Celtic languages and occidental names of god epithets of Iberia show evidence of a Afro-Asiatic substrate "grammar without vocabulary" influence (syntactic order, plurality of plurals, etc.) which may have arisen in the coastal Neolithic enclaves among the then hunter-gatherer Berbers of the Maghreb.
So HLA A2-B7-DR15 (caucasian common haplotype; cf. Glenys Thomson and Richard Single: "Biostatistical Analyses of Population Level Data for the 14th IHIWS", 2008): They were responsible for the common genetic base that one has been in Iberian and paleonorthafricans (hamitians). "The appendation of the B7-DQ6 haplotype creates the A2-B7-DQ6 haplotype". This haplotype if found often in Northern and Western Spain, Portugal and SW of Britain;also in Austria, Switzerland, Netherlands, Germany show a significant incidence.
So HLA A29-Cw16-B44-DR7-DQ2 (caucasian common haplotype; cf. Glenys Thomson and Richard Single: "Biostatistical Analyses of Population Level Data for the 14th IHIWS", 2008): The highest frequencies tend to be coastal countries along the Atlantic. The Cw16 allele is undoubtedly derived from Western Africa a substantial contribution as far north as Ireland. The high frequency of this haplotype is a marker of the old west European of the West, including a Portuguese, Basque and NW Spaniards; also it is common in Irish, South of England and West of France.
Hamitians or bereberes is old caucasian population, paleoeuropeans.
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First, about
What is a genetic bascoide substratum ? If you're refering to the various subclades of R1b I fear that you're mistaken. R1b subclades in Galicia are different from the ones found in the British Isles and Brittany.
"The peculiarities of the Galician population due to its geographical situation in western Europe, and its historical vicissitudes [...] Galicia is shown to be included in the Western-Central European cluster, together with other Spanish populations". Sequence diversity (0.939) and nucleotide diversity (0.0143) are, in general, slightly lower in the Galician population than in the rest ofthe European populations.
"A view of a ‘compact’ prehistoric Atlantic area is also confirmed by the most recent genetic research, which demonstrates that the genetic stock of Galician people is the same as that of the Irish, the Welsh, and the people of Cornwall, and goes back to the Palaeolithic: the name that geneticists have given to this marker is, not by chance, «Atlantic Modal Haplotype». (B. SYKES, Saxons, Vikings, and Celts. The Genetic Roots of Britain and Ireland, New York-London, W.W. Norton & Co., 2006, p. 162)
"The Celtic samples are very homogeneous—the modal haplotype [microsatellite haplotype 15 within hg 1 (haplotype 1.15)] has a frequency of 0.26 in Wales and 0.18 in Ireland--[...]. Haplotype 1.15 is also modal in the Basques and constitutes 0.41". In Galicia SNaPshot multiplexes reactions this frequency is 0.29 in the chromosomes which contains M173 (Eu18 or AMH).
looks to the dark blue in SW, NW, N and NE Spain.
Eu18 and Eu19 characterize about 50% of the European Y chromosomes.
Although they share M173, the two haplotypes show contrasting geographic distribution. The frequency of Eu18 decreases from west to east, being most frequent in Basques. This lineage includes the previously described proto-European lineage that is characterized by the 49a,f haplotype 15. In contrast, haplotype Eu19, which is derived from the M173 lineage and is distinguished by M17, is virtually absent in Western Europe. Its frequency increases eastward and reaches a maximum in Poland, Hungary, and Ukraine, where Eu18 in turn is virtually absent.(cf. Chiaroni Jacques; Underhill Peter A; Cavalli-Sforza Luca L.: Y chromosome diversity, human expansion, drift, and cultural evolution, 2009).
Presence of the M269 marker or R1b3 is the subclade most closely corresponding to Haplotype 15. It is by far the most common in the Iberian Peninsula and the Balearic Islands (66%). It is also the most comun in Galicia 63% (Galician haplogroup-frequency 0.88: cf. Basque 1.16, NW Castilian 1.00, East Andalusia 0.95, Catalonia 0.80, South Portugal 0.78, etc.), with a very low presence of the iberian haplogroup R1b3f: 0.02.
Despite AMH alleles of Ireland seem to correspond better with the NE of Iberia, where R1b3f was a later mutation, that with the Iberian Atlantic facade and Basconia:
Irland, Huesca (Pyrenees), Valencia: DYS388 12, DYS390 24, DYS391 11, DYS392 13, DYS393 13, DYS19 14.
Basconia: DYS388 12, DYS390 24, DYS391 10, DYS392 13, DYS393 13, DYS19 14.
Galicia: DYS388 12, DYS390 23, DYS391 9, DYS392 11, DYS393 13, DYS19 14
"Sobre la base de la proporción de haplogrupos, las poblaciones de Barbagia, Galicia y País Vasco son significativamente diferentes del resto de las poblaciones analizadas. Basándose en las secuencias de mtDNA también se detectó una diferenciación importante de estas poblaciones así como las de las poblaciones de Galura Cerdeña y Cataluña [...] Todos los análisis realizados muestran que la población catalana esta más relacionada con otras poblaciones mediterráneas que con Galicia y el País Vasco". (D. Comas, 2004).
mtDNA analysis of the Galician population, its frequency of the reference sequence reaches in Galicians its maximum value in Europe.The results place Galicians on the genetic edge of the European variation, bringing together all the traits of a cul-de-sac population with a striking similarity to the Basque population.
From later Cro-Magnon remains from southern Italy it has been found that early Europeans were of the mtDNA-Haplogroup HV or pre-HV with Celts and Basques being around 60% descendant mtDNA-Haplogroup H (Welsh 59.8%, Galicians 59.2%, Basques 57.8% Piedmont 56.8%, Valencians 53.33%).
Only the Insular Celtic languages and occidental names of god epithets of Iberia show evidence of a Afro-Asiatic substrate "grammar without vocabulary" influence (syntactic order, plurality of plurals, etc.) which may have arisen in the coastal Neolithic enclaves among the then hunter-gatherer Berbers of the Maghreb.
So HLA A2-B7-DR15 (caucasian common haplotype; cf. Glenys Thomson and Richard Single: "Biostatistical Analyses of Population Level Data for the 14th IHIWS", 2008): They were responsible for the common genetic base that one has been in Iberian and paleonorthafricans (hamitians). "The appendation of the B7-DQ6 haplotype creates the A2-B7-DQ6 haplotype". This haplotype if found often in Northern and Western Spain, Portugal and SW of Britain;also in Austria, Switzerland, Netherlands, Germany show a significant incidence.
So HLA A29-Cw16-B44-DR7-DQ2 (caucasian common haplotype; cf. Glenys Thomson and Richard Single: "Biostatistical Analyses of Population Level Data for the 14th IHIWS", 2008): The highest frequencies tend to be coastal countries along the Atlantic. The Cw16 allele is undoubtedly derived from Western Africa a substantial contribution as far north as Ireland. The high frequency of this haplotype is a marker of the old west European of the West, including a Portuguese, Basque and NW Spaniards; also it is common in Irish, South of England and West of France.
Hamitians or bereberes is old caucasian population, paleoeuropeans.
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