It's been defeated long time ago by decades of research, you've just never read it.
Right now it seems there is no way anyone is born gay and now ur saying it is a fact some are ur coming to quick conclusions
Again, testosterone doesn't have anything to do with sexual orientation. Only brain architecture does. Testosterone controls sexual libido, but not orientation. Women also have testosterone and actually it is rising with age. And yet older women don't turn lesbian.
We dont even know if there are diff sexual orientations. Tell me how brain architecture is the reason. well then gay people dont just use testosterone for sexual libido they do the same actions like humping which involves the brain if they had diff brain architecture. They would not do that they would make totally different sexual actions.
Aslo i made the point earlier more testosterone in a woman or more estrogen in a man does not make them gay or lesbian. Because to be attracted to women like men are u need male gentiles also if u use male gentiles in sexual things u cant be attracted to men the way women are.
You are on the right track here. Surely it is confusing but it doesn't mean it is not true
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No offense but it is not confusing for me because i am trying to argue no one is born gay. It is confusing for u to find a answer in science for gay people.
Homosexuality exists also in animal kingdom. Isn't it confusing? but I guess, it makes it natural.
That does not make homosexuality natural. Click
here it talks about the very rare occurrence of ape rape on humans uselly apes who grew up with humans meaning it is a psychological thing even though apes don't have much of a brain compared to humans.
A famous chimp named Oliver at first suspected of being half human attempted more than once to rape the female owner he grew up with. u will have to search the links and vidoes to find it. click
here DNA proves a pitbull raped a 2 year old as sad as that is..
Animal rapes or anything like that on humans is extremely extremely extremely rare but it does happen. Animals would have a better chance feeling attraction for their same gender than a human but what this shows is animals can pervert and dont work like robots. maybe u should read this article about homosexuality amoung animals sometimes it has nothing to do with sex just play that looks like sex at least for dogs here is a
link. The article says most animals are not exclusively gay the ones that show homo sides are not 100% homo they mate with the oppiste gender too which in my opinon means their straight just they can pervert it would make more sense with the same species.'It does not matter if their are gay animals animals animal species have choose (click
here) many scientist have said animal sexual choose is key to natural selection.
I think u also need to understand people who study this are going to be very pro gay and want to say homosexuality is a bigger deal in animals than it may be. Same with the people who try to find a science reason for homosexuality. That is why no one has done a study on gay animals to say that it is also not natural every study has tried to say it is natural. It does not matter if their are gay animals u need to have string scientific evidence which u dont have.
People with very short 'useless' penises, or having both genitals, or ones with third nipple are confusing too. Why the hell something like this happened? It doesn't make sense.
We are talking specifically about homosexuality u need to give scientific evidence for why it is natural.
Well, it doesn't make sense only from point of view of functionality of normal human being. But nature doesn't give a shit about what we think or feel about this. From dawn of life on Earth, nature uses blind changes, mutations, mistakes, mixing genes of different species, etc,
The gay gene or mutation would not be passed down because they DONT HAVE OFFSPRING. The most important part of evloution and changes in a species is having a good amount of offspring which homosexuality does not have so that makes it impossible to be a gene or mutation. Also most homo animals are not homo they have sex with the same gender and the oppiste gender which i said before shows they have choose and that they are born straight but pervert. There are very few completely gay animals but very biased studies have said in domesticated rams 10% of the males are only gay but if it was a gene that caused that gayness it would not be passed down because they dont have offspring so that means they are just perverting or i guess u can think of another scientific reason but again they HUMP like straight rams so they don't have a diff sexuality or brains structure.
best combination for new successful life forms.
well homosexuality is one of the worst things for evolution and to say homosexuality is natural in a none gene mutation way is extremely unlikely.
If billions of deformed unfortunate individuals dies unhappy in this process, so be it. She doesn't care. Loving mother nature? Think again. How about "cruel beach"?
If god had made us, or any other conscious logical being, even scientists, we all would have been smart, good and beautiful. Unfortunately we are in hands of blind natural selection, the forces of nature, hence the mess, confusion and less than perfect people.
Dont u believe everything is chance so why are calling chance mother nature. U don't know who God is why do u except him ti make ur life perfect or the world perfect. That whole argument if God is real why does my life suck is a terrible argument for no God. God lets us make our own decisions he lets us go i think most things in the world are chance but many things are controlled but in a way u wont notice as much.
cant say if there was a God this is how the world would be U DON'T KNOW HOW THE WORLD WOULD BE NONE OF THAT PROVES THERE IS NO GOD. u are going of the philosophy of Europeans from the 300-present who never read the Bible either because it was in Latin or don't care to. the ones who think God is just this big powerful guy with a beard in the sky. U DON'T KNOW WHO HE IS none of us truly do u cant define who God would be.
I know miracles do happen God has shown himself to human. Why do u think 99.9% of the world in the world except in recent times believes in a God. All religions around the world are similar and have similar traditions on who God is creation stories and flood stories. Since South Africans and Ancient Celts who genetically had been separated for at least 150,000 years had such similar mythology stories is not just random. It is in Human instinct i think to believe in God. i have been talking about natural human society but i forgot about religion which is very important in 99.99% of human soceites.
My family has witnnissed probable miracles but we dont say it was for sure a miracle and dont talk about it alot because we are not suppose to make miracles the base for our faith in God that is what the Bible says.
i would give u examples in another post but right now it would take up to much room.
Going back to gay issue. As I mentioned before, it is not only human phenomenon. Homosexuals or biosexuals exist among other animals too. This actually proves that it is not cultural thing but a easy to make genetic mistake. Looking at science, it is a mistake made during brain development. Individual is getting female like brain in man's body, and vice versa for lesbiens.
However, unlike in animals situation, homosexuality in people happens on bigger scale. We don't know exactly the cause of this increase, and it doesn't make sense from point of view of natural selection, being evolutionary dead end.
Homosexuality is impossible to be genetic because they don't have offspring at least in the animal kingdom. Bisexuality animals do have offspring but where is the scientific evidence for bisexuality. All u are saying is brain structure well then why do bisexual male animals hump like i have said many times they have the same sexual behavior. If a gay or bisexual male humps and has the same behavior as a straight males it is not just testosterone humping takes eyesight and brain's not just feeling. I want to make that clear how canu take male gentiles which are made to make kids and some how change them to be attracted to males that would take an extreme evolution which would make no sense why hump if it does not make kids it does not help their survival it hurts it.
If they had a female brain they would not hump how many times do i have to say gay humans and animals have the same sexual behavior as straight ones. Meaning they dont check each other out like females check out makes they check each other out like males do to females. Humping is not just at testostorne feeling it takes eyes and brains.
However, unlike in animals situation, homosexuality in people happens on bigger scale. We don't know exactly the cause of this increase, and it doesn't make sense from point of view of natural selection, being evolutionary dead end.
This is most likely because gays are known to be aggressive it is true. Also fear of gay's may cause people to be tempted. So if u think homosexuality is natural u have to admit most human gay's probably are not naturally gay u can explain it psychologically but i think u can do that with all of them
Here is my take on this cause:
For a very long time people lived in small patrilocal societies with arranged marriages. Also in small groups any deviation from normal is not tolerated very well, if at all. The disfigured, the gay, the odd looking always got the short end of a stick. Somebody had to be sacrificed for gods, or was kicked out of village for bringing bad luck. Let's be honest, they would be proclaimed unnatural by folks like yourself. The point is that being openly gay wasn't an option (it is still not an option in small European villages). You either pretend that you're straight and marry or you're dead.
Well good amount of social and family pressure, scare of being unnatural and eternity in hell, and gays got married too, and with opposite sex. Some more family pressure and they managed to make kid or two, and their gay mutation could survive in DNA.
Finally someone besides me think's natural human society is patriotical and in small tribes or family groups. I have argued this in history class everyone accused me of being sexiest when i have nothing against women and the type of patriotical i am talking about is not suppose to oppress women.
It does not matter what very smart human society does with arranged marraiges and stuff we are talking about brainless animal society. True animal homosexuals are not natural because they dont produce offspring so they dont pass on a gay gene it is purley mental or another strange mix of up of genes or something i dont know but i dont think it is natural at all.
u cant say all pre historic human societies where the same that is being a bad historian but u are partly right about many ancient societies but probably not most and not all marriages where arranged.