King Bardhyl
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Confirme your allegations with facts and exclude me from the forum if they are real.
Otherwise ask for forgive to Albanians.
Otherwise ask for forgive to Albanians.
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Hahaha Ike and his LaLa land. I lived in Yugoslavia, we had cases when 14 year olds were sent to Goli Otok. Everything was done under the sheet, so the world would not know. We were heavily in debts, and we just realized that after Titos death. It was a beautiful dream while it lasted. Life under socialism was not better, at least not the one that was created by slavic nations and imported by others. In Albania and Romania was one of the harshest, Bulgaria was not better either. In YU it was all milk and honey for the ruling class and their minions. The rest were equally poor.
There was an armed struggle by Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia.
ll against Serbia!
Much worst thing that was done to Albanians was done by ethnic Albanian traitors, spies, fascists, drug and organ dealers themselves. First get rid of those, and then we can talk.Still has not apologized for the crimes committed against Albanians.
No they aren't. Don't speak nonsense, I've never said that. They are just as guilty, and they may be even more guilty for the war crimes that happened, but only time will show, if some legitimate Court gets it's hands on it. Sadly, the chances for that are almost none because they would first have to prosecute whole NATO headquarters, cause they were the one who started the crisis against Milosevich, who didn't wanted to surrender his monetary control.All are guilty, only Serbs are innocent.
Yeah, Arkan was a war criminal and now he is dead, or he'd be jailed. Although you have to note that neither he or any of his friends made it to the government, unlike in Kosovo where mass murderers are walking freely in government offices.With some members of Greenpeace, called Arkan's Tigers, during a campaign for the protection of Tigers settlement.
You're a hard core nationalist. I don't know if one can get closer to a poster kid nationalist. Everything you do on this forum is bashing your neighbours. It was people like you, pushed by foreign interests, who ignited the fire on Kosovo and led the region into a dead-end story, making people lives miserable and future bleak at best.Confirme your allegations with facts and exclude me from the forum if they are real.
Otherwise ask for forgive to Albanians.
No there wasn't. Why do you even try to talk about the things you're not informed about. You lived in Albania, it's understandable that you don't know much about Croat-Serbian relationships. Why would you? It's no shame.
Much worst thing that was done to Albanians was done by ethnic Albanian traitors, spies, fascists, drug and organ dealers themselves. First get rid of those, and then we can talk.
No they aren't. Don't speak nonsense, I've never said that. They are just as guilty, and they may be even more guilty for the war crimes that happened, but only time will show, if some legitimate Court gets it's hands on it. Sadly, the chances for that are almost none because they would first have to prosecute whole NATO headquarters, cause they were the one who started the crisis against Milosevich, who didn't wanted to surrender his monetary control.
Yeah, Arkan was a war criminal and now he is dead, or he'd be jailed. Although you have to note that neither he or any of his friends made it to the government, unlike in Kosovo where mass murderers are walking freely in government offices.
You're a hard core nationalist. I don't know if one can get closer to a poster kid nationalist. Everything you do on this forum is bashing your neighbours. It was people like you, pushed by foreign interests, who ignited the fire on Kosovo and led the region into a dead-end story, making people lives miserable and future bleak at best.
Wow, this is a punch below the belt, dude!
@ Ike& Garrick
I don’t want to lose much time with you guys. I want to stay at two interesting moments.
First this theory of 100.000 albanian who emigrate to Serbia is very curios and I insiste that you elaborate better this theory, because never heard before.
Second:
Your words
“But the biggest problem is to restore the Middle Ages, in Yugoslavia was big progress, but today, examples:
ISIS fighter from Kosovo praises jihad in Syria
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archiv...er_from_ko.php
Albanians Fighting for ISIS earn $65/day, come from Middle Class Families
http://europenews.dk/en/node/83259
ISIS Albanian Mujahideen celebrating the liberation of Mosul in Iraq
http://tune.pk/video/3933167/isis-al...-mosul-in-irak”
Where did you owe this article, LeBrok?
You should note that there are people who read what we write and you can not mock the intelligence of readers
The human being first observes and then draws conclusions . With a simple observation, you are trying to confuse the discussion about communism, Albanians and Serbs and Islamic fundamentalism.
I am willing to discuss all three, but let's share from each other. Let`s don’t make confusion.
Conclusion
Regarding the discussion on the Albanians and the Serbs let pass here:
http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/27710-Illyrian-Albanian-Continuity?p=439209#post439209
I have invited you different time , this time i challenge you both and others. Enough with bored.
Let's put on the table and see who has the greatest.
Yugoslavia was destroyed by you Serbs.
Milosevic sent you four times with tanks and you come back four times with tractors.
About communism i have expressed my opinion about the issue.
My words:
“Practical communism, implemented was a creature of Slavic Orthodoxy”.
And i am ready to discuss with you. But before that i want to be clear your intellectual level is not the same as the Yetos.
So, I am making an question: who is the most important book for an comunist, the Bible Communism?
P.S.
You should not refer Yetos. There are three weeks and he still today could not tell me one name of a greek hero of Greek revolution. According to my information he have an problem of health. He can not stay more than 5 min sit in a chair.
So, I am making an question: who is the most important book for an comunist, the Bible Communism?
ΜΟΣΧΟΠΟΛΙΣ ΚΟΡΥΤΣΑ ΒΟΥΛΓΑΡΕΛΙ
moscopolje korce bulgarets
the story of what greeks call arbantovlachs ΑρβαντοΒλαχοι
from 1769 albanians try to albanize the place
the place was so industrial and so educated that everybody like it,
oit was the biggest industrial are area of balkans at 1770
the aromanian kingdom or the the aromanian mystra were alternative names,
from 1770 albanians systematically attcked and pillaged it cause did not pay taxes to albanian hodzas as quran was ordering but payed religious taxes to ottomans
that continued even at ww1 and ww2
sali betka the albanian hero,
his contribution was to burn down and islamize and albanize by force all the greeks, aromani, and slavs (slavic makedonians)
whow what a hero, burning houses in his country and albanize by force aromani and slavs, who were unarmed,
ww2
albanian party
cooperation with nazi and ss
they burned 2 times moschopolis korce bulgarets and girokaster
cause they did not albanized and muslimized
nice party.
Your history and your expansion.
your hero bardylic
Conspiracy again. Nothing happens without secret services, ha? I had no idea that everything people plan and do is successful in this world.That is becoming a serious regional problem. Communists were not quite fond of religion, and this could never happen in their times. This is the product of democracy, and I don't believe Western countries were stupid to not know what would become if the system that works for them was forced upon others. I think they deliberately insisted on it, not because they were concerned bout democracy but because they wanted this outcome. They simply need destabilized regions, and that's the sole reason they fought so intensively against communism here.
This mess couldn't have come from simple incompetence of people, unexpected events, inability of people to analyze complicated system as global politic is, conflict of interests of global power centers, or simple religious propaganda coupled with young boys eagerness to fight a war. No, no, no, it is the CIA and rotten West again, lol.
Conspiracy again. Nothing happens without secret services, ha? I had no idea that everything people plan and do is successful in this world.
You know that I don’t believe in conspiracy theories.
James Bond etc. only in movies.
European values, human rights and freedom are great civilization achievements.
The pride of people of Europe and European civilization.
Unfortunately some parts of Europe were long under the rulers of different views and apprehensions.
While the rest of Europe was developed, European Balkan peoples, especially Greeks, Bulgarians and Serbs were under Ottoman Islamic state and Sharia law.
If you want understand this, you have to understand what it means to be non-Muslim under Sharia legal system.
It is not just a second-class citizen, or someone who pays tax for life (jizya), it is someone who has no rights or hope.
Sharia law for non-Muslim has no human rights and freedom, only taxes, obedience and hope for mercy, but rulers can be very arrogant and cruel, and there is no grace, and very tragic and sad fate for non-Muslim.
Balkan Christian nation have a proverb: Islamic judge sues, Islamic judge makes your judgement.
There’s no human rights LeBrok, you’re left to the his mercy and wantonness.
Do not you wish anyone to be in that situation.
Ottoman Empire was an Islamic state, good for Muslims.
Interestingly, what happened to the Albanians, while the Christian peoples of the Balkans, Greeks, Bulgarians, Serbs and others, have suffered under Sharia law.
Albanians after a period of polytheism received Christianity and were mostly Roman Catholics.
But when the Ottoman Empire spread and included areas inhabited by ethnic Albanians, it took place something not many expected, what in the book History of Islam writes Thomas Arnold.
For short time, in seventeenth century, for one generation Albanians change religion and converted to Islam in large numbers.
Grandparents or parent could remain Christians, but young Albanians have embraced Islamic religion.
Probably the islamization of Albanians is among the fastest in history, and it was voluntary, and Albanians are probably only ex Roman Catholic nation that has massively embraced Islam.
Converting to Islam Albanians began to enjoy all privileges as Muslims, among other things, to rule over the powerless and the oppressed Christian Balkan peoples.
Albanians have become the spearhead of Jihad and the Ottoman Empire in the Balkans.
If you want to know the fate of the Balkan European nations, it is the best to read about the life of Greeks, Bulgarians and Serbs under Islamic Ottoman rule.
When you read a little more you can understand contemporary events and why the European Balkan nations are afraid from Greater Albania (conquer territories four states), a new Ottoman Empire, Oropba, Islamic state and Sharia law.
Unfortenatly Ike was right, creating ISIS and drawing map of the new Caliphate which even includes the territory of Slovakia and Austria (in another occasion I will explain you if you wish to know) introduce fear in the Balkan European nations.
Do not forget, once in eastern Albania and in European part of Turkey lived Bulgarians, now they’re gone, once the entire Aegean coast of Turkey and northern Epirus (today’s south Albania) was inhabited by Greeks, now they’re gone, it was less than 100 years.
Until recently Prizren, Pristina and many other cities are inhabited by Serbs, for example in Pristine 1961 was 35.000 Serbs, after 1999 Serbs in Pristina is 0.
Do you believe that no one has asked for human rights of Greeks when they were expelled by the Turks in 1922, or Serbs who fled big parts of Serbian province Kosovo in 1999.
But I’m an optimist, the wheel of history cannot be turned back, although some men tend to return the Sharia law in Balkans.
So Greater Albania will remain failed idea, as well as the return of Ottoman Empire in the Balkans and new Caliphate, the world is moving forward, and civilizations twenty-first century will find the strength to cope with it, and Europe and the European Balkans people will prosper.
Without nationalism and fundamentalism that are backward, but with modern and advanced insights.
I firmly believe in European unity and power of Europe, Yugoslav slogan “brotherhood and unity” can be good and for Europe, although that does not understand me wrong I have nothing against America, China and other non-Europeans countries, and I believe in human goodness, and think good about the people of Africa, Middle East, Asia etc.
And I tell you for thirty years we will talk about completely different things like flying to the Moon and Mars and the like.
You either lack a total understanding of Albanian history or you are trying to distort it.You know that I don’t believe in conspiracy theories.
James Bond etc. only in movies.
European values, human rights and freedom are great civilization achievements.
The pride of people of Europe and European civilization.
Unfortunately some parts of Europe were long under the rulers of different views and apprehensions.
While the rest of Europe was developed, European Balkan peoples, especially Greeks, Bulgarians and Serbs were under Ottoman Islamic state and Sharia law.
If you want understand this, you have to understand what it means to be non-Muslim under Sharia legal system.
It is not just a second-class citizen, or someone who pays tax for life (jizya), it is someone who has no rights or hope.
Sharia law for non-Muslim has no human rights and freedom, only taxes, obedience and hope for mercy, but rulers can be very arrogant and cruel, and there is no grace, and very tragic and sad fate for non-Muslim.
Balkan Christian nation have a proverb: Islamic judge sues, Islamic judge makes your judgement.
There’s no human rights LeBrok, you’re left to the his mercy and wantonness.
Do not you wish anyone to be in that situation.
Ottoman Empire was an Islamic state, good for Muslims.
Interestingly, what happened to the Albanians, while the Christian peoples of the Balkans, Greeks, Bulgarians, Serbs and others, have suffered under Sharia law.
Albanians after a period of polytheism received Christianity and were mostly Roman Catholics.
But when the Ottoman Empire spread and included areas inhabited by ethnic Albanians, it took place something not many expected, what in the book History of Islam writes Thomas Arnold.
For short time, in seventeenth century, for one generation Albanians change religion and converted to Islam in large numbers.
Grandparents or parent could remain Christians, but young Albanians have embraced Islamic religion.
Probably the islamization of Albanians is among the fastest in history, and it was voluntary, and Albanians are probably only ex Roman Catholic nation that has massively embraced Islam.
Converting to Islam Albanians began to enjoy all privileges as Muslims, among other things, to rule over the powerless and the oppressed Christian Balkan peoples.
Albanians have become the spearhead of Jihad and the Ottoman Empire in the Balkans.
If you want to know the fate of the Balkan European nations, it is the best to read about the life of Greeks, Bulgarians and Serbs under Islamic Ottoman rule.
When you read a little more you can understand contemporary events and why the European Balkan nations are afraid from Greater Albania (conquer territories four states), a new Ottoman Empire, Oropba, Islamic state and Sharia law.
Unfortenatly Ike was right, creating ISIS and drawing map of the new Caliphate which even includes the territory of Slovakia and Austria (in another occasion I will explain you if you wish to know) introduce fear in the Balkan European nations.
Do not forget, once in eastern Albania and in European part of Turkey lived Bulgarians, now they’re gone, once the entire Aegean coast of Turkey and northern Epirus (today’s south Albania) was inhabited by Greeks, now they’re gone, it was less than 100 years.
Until recently Prizren, Pristina and many other cities are inhabited by Serbs, for example in Pristine 1961 was 35.000 Serbs, after 1999 Serbs in Pristina is 0.
Do you believe that no one has asked for human rights of Greeks when they were expelled by the Turks in 1922, or Serbs who fled big parts of Serbian province Kosovo in 1999.
But I’m an optimist, the wheel of history cannot be turned back, although some men tend to return the Sharia law in Balkans.
So Greater Albania will remain failed idea, as well as the return of Ottoman Empire in the Balkans and new Caliphate, the world is moving forward, and civilizations twenty-first century will find the strength to cope with it, and Europe and the European Balkans people will prosper.
Without nationalism and fundamentalism that are backward, but with modern and advanced insights.
I firmly believe in European unity and power of Europe, Yugoslav slogan “brotherhood and unity” can be good and for Europe, although that does not understand me wrong I have nothing against America, China and other non-Europeans countries, and I believe in human goodness, and think good about the people of Africa, Middle East, Asia etc.
And I tell you for thirty years we will talk about completely different things like flying to the Moon and Mars and the like.
You either lack a total understanding of Albanian history or you are trying to distort it.
There has never been Greeks in Epiros;
Epiros (I am using Greek pronunciation of the word) Was an Illyrian province, as it was Dardania( Kosovo) or Dalmacia
If you are in a mission to distort Albanian history go ahead and do it, but you are doing a disservice to forum readers who are not interested in purposely deformed information.
If it makes you feel good do your thing, but its more honorable to state in a correct ways historical facts.
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