Serb and Croat genes

Alex D. said:
they are not look at pics of your football, waterpolo, most sports teams of croatia and see what the dominant hair color is its blcak and brown very few other colors. Culturally croats do hve a lot to do with the balkans you might be closer to the west like western europe due to your 700 occupation by the austrians. eastern is not as in turk but more like eastern europe. show me a mass photo where the majority of croats have blond, red or any light hair colors
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they are,that is a well known fact,and that's the first thing i notice when i watch serbian television for example.
Bosniaks are not much darker than Croats,only slightly,generally we can say slovenians,bosniaks and croats fall in one,and serbs into another group of 'blondness'.
 
Alex D. said:
they are not look at pics of your football, waterpolo, most sports teams of croatia and see what the dominant hair color is its blcak and brown very few other colors. Culturally croats do hve a lot to do with the balkans you might be closer to the west like western europe due to your 700 occupation by the austrians. eastern is not as in turk but more like eastern europe. show me a mass photo where the majority of croats have blond, red or any light hair colors
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what about croatian sport teams??most of them have brown hair and light pigmentation,eyes are sometimes lighter sometimes darker.
But they are not 100% representative,because most of the sportsmen are born or descend from southern,dinaric areas where people are darker and much taller as well.

but here we go,if you wish,google starting lineup of Croatian football team:
Stipe Pletikosa
Vedran Corluka
Josip Simunic
Ivica Krizanac
Darijo Srna(from Bosniak parents)
Ognjen Vukojevic
Luka Modric(Serbian mother,probably inherited dark eyes from her)
Niko Kranjcar
Ivan Rakitic
Mladen Petric
Ivan Klasnic
coach:Slaven Bilic

i've put Klasnic instead of Eduardo who is ethnic Brazilian.
Overall,they seem medium to me:innocent:
 
but now this is going against your haplogroup theory seeing as these people from the dinaric or southern coasts of croatia have the highest value of I in europe, wich is the native haplogroup

yeah here you go photos
http://www.uvijekvjerni.com/media/cache/filemanager/2008/05/09/01_pletikosa_stipe__300x330.jpg

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00518/JosipSimunic_280x39_518297a.jpg

http://www.uvijekvjerni.com/media/cache/filemanager/2008/05/10/vukojevic_ognjen_300x330.jpg

http://www.tehrantimes.com/News/10680/13_EVERTON.jpg

they look like southern europeans not northern or central as you try to potrary them. by far the msot common eye color is either brown or light brown
 
You won't prove absolutely anything to me because I know very well what I'm talking about,so do the other people in the region.
 
now i've actually seen your pictures,i thought you actually found some hand-picked pics of croatian fans...WTF??they look like average central european people.

this is what an average Serb looks like,more or less:
http://www.sportspad.org/images/janko-tipsarevic_4305.jpg

THAT is south(eastern) European.

and why are you doing the hand-picking of Croatian footballers?
first two could pass for northern Europeans,Kranjcar is classic central European alpine with light mixed eyes.
 
Oppenheimer and others, consider the celts were atlanto-mediterranean and Western-mediterranean
 
Wilhelm said:
Oppenheimer and others, consider the celts were atlanto-mediterranean and Western-mediterranean
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Also, it is becoming clear that Tartessian may have been the first Celtic language. Read J. Koch's new book: Tartessian: Celtic from the South-west... Celticity could well have spread from the Atlantic to the east, not the other way around.
 
In all honsety , these maps of eyes and hair are BS. From all the sources I could gather, Spain is about 17-20% blonde, while Italy about 10-12% blonde, yet these maps show that Italy is blonder.
 
Cambria Red said:
Yes, more than than 20%. Light eyes are about 30-35%. This does not include hazel. You need to educate yourself on Portugal.
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What exactly is included into 'light eyes'?light brown may also be light?i know that Coon measured 70% light and light-mixed for both Croatia and Slovenia individually
 
Wilhelm said:
In all honsety , these maps of eyes and hair are BS. From all the sources I could gather, Spain is about 17-20% blonde, while Italy about 10-12% blonde, yet these maps show that Italy is blonder.
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http://mappery.com/maps/Europe-Blond-Hair-Map.mediumthumb.jpg

i see both Italy and Spain are in 1-19% section,so technically it is correct i believe,although Spain has more light hair.And I think thas indeed is true,because my class in high school has been in Spain and I've seen a lot of Spaniards,and Italy is close to Croatia so I've often in contact with Italians(tourists).

Concerning maps,i think they're generally OK,at least for my area(ex-Yugo-Italy-Austria),you can't really go in tiny details with such things.
 
Joro said:
http://mappery.com/maps/Europe-Blond-Hair-Map.mediumthumb.jpg

i see both Italy and Spain are in 1-19% section,so technically it is correct i believe,although Spain has more light hair.And I think thas indeed is true,because my class in high school has been in Spain and I've seen a lot of Spaniards,and Italy is close to Croatia so I've often in contact with Italians(tourists).

Concerning maps,i think they're generally OK,at least for my area(ex-Yugo-Italy-Austria),you can't really go in tiny details with such things.
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you are right, but See the new updated map here in Eupedia :
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/maps_of_europe.shtml#eye_colour
 
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