1) south of Persians is the Gulf Persian Gulf
and north is Caspean sea
yes, in narrow sense of the word....
but Persian state was extending to whole Asia minor and even in Thrace for a while....
besides with Persians, I meant Iranian people in general... they do speak same language...
and Caspian sea is just a lake...
2) that is because in order to explain the bulgarian in an area that not Slavic enter they pushe slavonization and reconstruction there,
In fact thracian is a language between slavic Greek and Persian the case of a towards celtic I am not to claim but I live it open
yes it is hard to map...I do not think Thracians were Celtic... Celts spread via Danube river system...Thracians were east of them...
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n fact many thracian that are written are giving even Armenian origin,
the Greeks are making an alone effort to write down cause there is enough differences, cause many words that believe as slavic are given as thracian by many,
one reliable only write down is the Samothrakis Σαμοθρακης who gives only word and meaning no further,
personally I know that there was a pre or a para slavic language but not connected with the today Cyrillic or modern south slavic as today forms, and not that much
for example word is romphaia (sword) it is connected with whom? offcourse in new testament John use it after Brygian or whatever.
but someone could easy claim whatever
Among today thracians are many different words ,
no, can't find nothing like "romphaia" for sword...
and since you want to know about Thracian
Tios Bakchos an original thracian God, can you connect him with today slavic?
Tios is Greek for God, Bog is slavic
Bog is very likely cognjate with Bakchos...
3) darnakas is inner name
Darnakochoria is area
ok
4) the Greek hekate
well since you know about thracian then you must known about thracian trinity it is well mentioned in Orpheus Hymns
tthat 3 is Moirai
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moirae
Moirae could be origin for Morava river names in Serbia and Czech republic...
Sabazios is related to Sava river
and Zeus to Danube
is Graiai
is Hekate
is the thracian 1) Bakchos Greek Ιακχος +2) Orpheus Dionyssus Phannis +3) zagreus Sabazios !!!!!!! troika
based just on similarity of sounds
1) Perun - Perkunas - Phannis - Taranis- Tarhun-Taru-Thor (Slavic - Baltic- Greek - Celtic-Hittite-Hatti-Germanic)
2) Dajbog / Dažbog - Tios Bakchos
3) Svarog - zagreus
now, let's play with the meanings
perhaps different tribes had own primary gods
Sabazios or Serbian god would be Zagreus thus Svarog
(interestingly capital of Croats is Zagreb and mountain where Kur deity of Mesopotamia is Zagreus)
Svarog is there identified with Hephaestus, the god of the blacksmith in ancient Greek religion, and as the father of Dažbog, a Slavic solar deity. On the basis of this text, some researchers conclude that Svarog is the Slavic god of celestial fire and of blacksmithing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svarog
Hephaestus ( /hɪˈfiːstəs/, /həˈfɛstəs/ or /hɨˈfɛstəs/; 8 spellings; Ancient Greek Ἥφαιστος Hēphaistos) was a Greek god whose Roman equivalent was Vulcan. He is the son of Zeus and Hera, the King and Queen of the Gods or else (according to some accounts) of Hera alone. He was the god of technology, blacksmiths, craftsmen, artisans, sculptors, metals, metallurgy, fire and volcanoes.
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On the island of Lemnos, his consort was the sea nymph Cabeiro, by whom he was the father of two metalworking gods named the Cabeiri. In Sicily, his consort was the nymph Aetna, and his sons two gods of Sicilian geysers called Palici.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hephaestus
a very wild guess
Cabeiri - Srbi - Serbs
Palici - Poljaci - Poles
Hephaestus also leads us to Vulkan, Balkan, Volga and Bulgars....
btw. curiously also mythical queen of Sheba was called Makeda on south of her country and Balkis on east among Arabs...which map to Serbs-Macedonians-Bulgars....
could queen of Sheba be linked to Sirris goddess? and somehow to moon because
srp (slavic) = crescent
sart (mongolian) = moon
Sart self-designations maps perfectly to Serians of Asia (ethnic group Dongxiang from northwest China that maps to Serica proper, and Tajik/Uzbek Sart people who map to upper part of arc of Serians from India to China, while lower part of arc are Pashtun Sarbans)
see
http://www.eupedia.com/forum/showth...bian-parallels&p=373750&viewfull=1#post373750
hm, let's see whether there is link between moon and Serians/Zeruiani
could Zeruiani mean Zoryani - people of Zorya (Zorya/Zora = dawn)
In Slavic mythology the Zorya (alternately, Zarya, Zory, Zore = "dawn"; Zvezda, Zwezda, Danica = "star") are the three (sometimes two) guardian goddesses, known as the Auroras. They guard and watch over the doomsday hound, Simargl, who is chained to the star Polaris in the constellation Ursa Minor, the "little bear". If the chain ever breaks, the hound will devour the constellation and the universe will end. The Zorya represent the Morning Star, Evening Star, and Midnight Star, respectively,[1] although the Midnight Star is sometimes omitted. As a trio, they are sometimes associated with the Triple Goddess mythic archetype, representing the maiden, mother and crone.
The Zorya serve the sun god Dažbog, who in some myths is described as their father. Zorya Utrennyaya, the Morning Star, opens the gates to his palace every morning for the sun-chariot's departure. At dusk, Zorya Vechernyaya—the Evening Star—closes the palace gates once more after his return. Zorya Polunochnaya, the Midnight Star, holds the dying sun in her arms until he is restored to life the following morning. The three goddesses are also associated with marriage, protection, and exorcisms.
The home of the Zorya was sometimes said to be on Bouyan (or Buyan), an oceanic island paradise where the Sun dwelt along with his attendants, the North, West and East winds.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Zorya
hm, home at Bouyan
homeland of Serbs Boika
in home of Zorya are: Sun and North, West and East winds
In Greek mythology, the Anemoi (in Greek, Ἄνεμοι — "winds") were wind gods who were each ascribed a cardinal direction, from which their respective winds came, and were each associated with various seasons and weather conditions. They were sometimes represented as mere gusts of wind, at other times were personified as winged men, and at still other times were depicted as horses kept in the stables of the storm god Aeolus, who provided Odysseus with the Anemoi in the Odyssey. Astraeus, the astrological deity sometimes associated with Aeolus, and Eos, the goddess of the dawn, were the parents of the Anemoi, according to the Greek poet Hesiod.
Of the four chief Anemoi, Boreas was the north wind and bringer of cold winter air, Notus was the south wind and bringer of the storms of late summer and autumn, and Zephyrus was the west wind and bringer of light spring and early summer breezes; Eurus, the east wind, was not associated with any of the three Greek seasons, and is the only one of these four Anemoi not mentioned in Hesiod's Theogony or in the Orphic Hymns. Additionally, four lesser Anemoi were sometimes referenced, representing the northeast, southeast, northwest, and southwest winds.
The deities equivalent to the Anemoi in Roman mythology were the Venti (in Latin, "winds"). These gods had different names, but were otherwise very similar to their Greek counterparts, borrowing their attributes and being frequently conflated with them.
Zephyrus, or just Zephyr (Greek: Ζέφυρος, Zéphuros, "the west wind"), in Latin Favonius, is the Greek god of the west wind. The gentlest of the winds, Zephyrus is known as the fructifying wind, the messenger of spring. It was thought that Zephyrus lived in a cave in Thrace.
Zephyrus was reported as having several wives in different stories. He was said to be the husband of his sister Iris, the goddess of the rainbow. He abducted another of his sisters, the goddess Chloris, and gave her the domain of flowers. With Chloris, he fathered Carpus ("fruit").
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anemoi
Zoraya representative of Zeruiani/Serians maps to Eos godess of dawn - mother of winds...
winds are:
east - Eurus (maps to Russians)
north - Borea (maps to Prussia/Borussia)
west - Zephyrus (maps to Serbs)
and his son Carpus (maps to Croats)
winds are in latin known as Venti (maps to Veneti)
as I explained earlier in this thread, Borea is still in Thrace, Hyperboreans are north of Borea thus Dacians... Hyperboreans are linked to Leto (clearly reflected in tribal names Lithuanians and Latvians (in Serbia Latvia is called
Letonija))
now about moon...
The Morning Star is Zorya Utrennyaya (from Russian utro, meaning "morning"; also known as Zvezda Danica, Zvezda Dennitsa, Zwezda Dnieca, Zvezda Zornitsa, Gwiazda Poranna, Rannia Zoria, Zornica, Zornička), who opens the gates of Dažbog's palace each morning so that the Sun may begin his journey.[3] She is depicted as a warrior goddess, fully-armed and courageous, and was invoked to protect against death in battle with the prayer "Defend me, O maiden, with your veil from the enemy, from the arquebus and arrow..."[citation needed] She is a patroness of horses, protection, exorcism, and the planet Venus, and Slavs would pray to her each morning as the sun rose.[4] In some tales, she sits under the World Tree on the fiery-stone Alatuir, from which run the four rivers of the Otherworld, and under her seat flows the river of healing.
Conflicting accounts exist of her marital situation. In some myths, she is described as the wife of Perun and would accompany her husband into battle. In this role she was known to protect those warriors she favoured against death by letting down her veil. In other accounts, both she and Zorya Vechernyaya were the wives of the male Myesyats, the moon god, and by him bore all of the stars.[3] However, some have all three Zorya as virgin goddesses, while describing Myesyats as an unrelated female moon goddess.
Zorya Utrennyaya is sometimes associated with the maiden in the Triple Goddess archetype.
The Evening Star is Zorya Vechernyaya[1] (from Russian vecher, meaning "evening"; also known as Vecernja Zvezda, Zvezda Vechernaya, Zwezda Wieczoniaia, Zwezda Wieczernica, Zvezda Vechernitsa, Gwiazda Wieczorna, Vechirnia Zoria, Večernjača, Večernica), who closes the palace gates at dusk, after sunset and Dažbog's return. She was associated with the planet Venus or Mercury. Some myths described both her and her sister Zorya Utrennyaya as the wives of the moon god Myesyats and the mothers of the stars, but other accounts cast all three Zorya as virgin goddesses.[3] A patroness of exorcism and protection, she is sometimes associated with the mother in the Triple Goddess archetype.[4]
The Midnight Star is Zorya Polunochnaya (from Russian polnoch, meaning "midnight"; also known as Zwezda Połnoca, Gwiazda Polnoca, Polunocnica, Polunochnitsa; in the Ukrainian language Midnight Star literally means the Pole star). It is in Zorya Polunochnaya's arms that the Sun returns to die each night, to be rejuvenated the following morning. She is a patroness of magic, death and rebirth.[4] She is sometimes associated with the crone in the Triple Goddess archetype.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Zorya
Hecate or Hekate (ancient Greek Ἑκάτη, Hekátē, pronounced UK: /ˈhekəti/, US: /ˈhekət̬i/, in Shakespeare English pronunciation: /ˈhekət/[1]) is a chthonic Greco-Roman goddess associated with magic, witchcraft, necromancy, and crossroads.[2] She is attested in poetry as early as Hesiod's Theogony. An inscription from late archaic Miletus naming her as a protector of entrances is also testimony to her presence in archaic Greek religion.[3]
Regarding the nature of her cult, it has been remarked, "she is more at home on the fringes than in the center of Greek polytheism. Intrinsically ambivalent and polymorphous, she straddles conventional boundaries and eludes definition."[4] She has been associated with childbirth, nurturing the young, gates and walls, doorways, crossroads, magic, lunar lore, torches and dogs.
The earliest Greek depictions of Hecate are single faced, not triplicate. Lewis Richard Farnell states:
The evidence of the monuments as to the character and significance of Hecate is almost as full as that of the literature. But it is only in the later period that they come to express her manifold and mystic nature. Before the fifth century there is little doubt that she was usually represented as of single form like any other divinity, and it was thus that the Boeotian poet imagined her, as nothing in his verses contains any allusion to a triple formed goddess.[17]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hecate
The Triple Goddess is the subject of much of the writing of Robert Graves, and has been adopted by some neopagans as one of their primary deities. The term triple goddess is sometimes used outside of Neopaganism to refer to historical goddess triads and single goddesses of three forms or aspects. In common Neopagan usage the three female figures are frequently described as the Maiden, the Mother, and the Crone, each of which symbolises both a separate stage in the female life cycle and a phase of the moon, and often rules one of the realms of earth, underworld, and the heavens. These may or may not be perceived as aspects of a greater single divinity. The feminine part of Wicca's duotheistic theological system is sometimes portrayed as a Triple Goddess, her masculine counterpart being the Horned God.
many Wiccans and other neopagans worship the "Triple Goddess" of maiden, mother, and crone, a practice going back to mid-twentieth-century England. In their view, sexuality, pregnancy, breastfeeding — and other female reproductive processes — are ways that women may embody the Goddess, making the physical body sacred.[40]
The Maiden represents enchantment, inception, expansion, the promise of new beginnings, birth, youth and youthful enthusiasm, represented by the waxing moon.
The Mother represents ripeness, fertility, sexuality, fulfillment, stability, power and life represented by the full moon.
The Crone represents wisdom, repose, death, and endings represented by the waning moon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_Goddess_(Neopaganism)
triple-goddess symbol in Vicca
Sherden sea peoples helmet
Place named after Sherden in Egypt is Serbonian bog
5) nope it is Siris 2 greek cities had that name,
it is a female goddes from mesopotami that conncted with agriculture of a seed and beer produaction
I edited later... take a look some interesting links...
