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Of course.
What this faux Spaniard Ferreira fails to understand is that the great majority of M-81 in Iberia, as in many other places in Europe, results from ancient (Mesolithic / Neolithic) migrations and has no impact on phenotype. Very little M-81 in Spain and Portugal comes from the Muslim occupation.
You are total madman. You have no knowledge of how genes work or what genetics research is all about. Stop acting like a parrot and making a complete fool of yourself.
Yes it's true, but a lot of spaniards, specially andalusians, could pass for residents of northern morocco/ northern Algeria, and vice versa.
In Spain there are a lot of moroccon inmigrants, and some of them are indistinguishable from the Spanish people.
Of course.
What this faux Spaniard Ferreira fails to understand is that the great majority of M-81 in Iberia, as in many other places in Europe, results from ancient (Mesolithic / Neolithic) migrations and has no impact on phenotype. Very little M-81 in Spain and Portugal comes from the Muslim occupation.
I don't exclude this possibility, but for the simple fact that around the stright of Gibraltar very likely climate on the two sides are very similar, so does also the solar exposition and impact, etc. etc. so it can be that in Andalusia natives have evolved features that are similar to those of some Berbers. Exactly like I would not be surprised if someone in Sicily would look similar to a Tunisian or in Rhodes some Greek looked like a Turk/Lebaneses.
However I doubt that most Andalusians and Sicilians look more Berber than European. Excluding in toto that there are individuals who might resemble Berbers would be however very stupid and arrogant too.
Two individuals can look similar also being very different genetically.
Yes, I think it's the same with J2 in Italy and Romania. Italy and Romania experienced almost no levantine domination but we have the same high frequencies of J2 (Romania even more than Italy).
Yes it's true, but a lot of spaniards, specially andalusians, could pass for residents of northern morocco/ northern Algeria, and vice versa.
In Spain there are a lot of moroccon inmigrants, and some of them are indistinguishable from the Spanish people.
Total hogwash! LMAO!
I agreed with you in general. The problem is that a lot of spaniards are very racist people, and because of finding 10-12% of the spanish population belong to haplogroup E (non-European origin) means something terrible for them. Then they start to insult.
Yes it's true, but a lot of spaniards, specially andalusians, could pass for residents of northern morocco/ northern Algeria, and vice versa.
In Spain there are a lot of moroccon inmigrants, and some of them are indistinguishable from the Spanish people.
Of course, we're back to the idea that only single digits are of recent Berber origin, certainly not all of the Haplogroup E in Iberia. It's commonly thought (although it has been recently challenged) that most Haplogroup E is older in Europe even than European Haplogroup R1b, including a significant portion of the Haplogroup E in Iberia.
I would also be surprised if ALL of the Berber-type Haplgroup E in Iberia came from the occupation... to me, to suggest such would be like suggesting that people couldn't move across the Straight of Gibraltar until then, which is absurd, of course. The total contribution of that occupation must be in the low-single-digits in terms of percent... present, but small.
Hey mountebank, do these Andalusians look like your typical (not Kyble or similar original or Eurasian Berbers) Algerian or Moroccan? LMFAO!! Now, do us all a favor and go back to your sandbox.
Yes, the consensus is that the Muslim invasion had very little genetic impact on Iberia.
The genetic substratum of Spain and Portugal is essentilly Paleolithic, Proto-Celtic, Celtic and Germanic with minor Near Eastern influences. Muslims in Iberia, unlike the Celts and Germanics were not settlers. Big difference.
BTW, the DODECAD and Polako autosomal frequencies show very clearly how overwhelmingly European Iberians are. Spain presently registers ~ 91% Euro, with about 39% W. Euro and N. Euro while Portugal is at 85%, including ~ 38% W. Euro and N. Euro. The difference between the two population groups has to do with much higher Basque frequencies for Spain, which boosts the S. Euro component and a higher (5-6%) NW African affinity in Portugal (mainly S. Portugal).
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