Dorianfinder
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- Location
- Western Cape
- Ethnic group
- European
- Y-DNA haplogroup
- R-FGC13617
- mtDNA haplogroup
- T2b1
Franci as they called themselves settled mainly in NorthWest France - Ill d France , but probably in moderate numbers , while in other aerias they number is realy small . So I agred France is misnomer . About what lands should be called Francia - France I would say Belgium , Franconia ( in Germany ) , Luxemburg and south Nederlands . Franks were probably aliance of nations not only one nation - they first apearance is about III century , when in German lands was some kind of power shift , and creation of new aliances like Alemans ( " of all nations ")and Franks ( " brave ones , honorable ones " ) . In this aliance were probably included German nations like Suebi and Frisi and other lesser groups , but also Celtic tribes of Belgae .
What haplogroups were originally found in the Franks? I have come across a dutch family with links to the Merovingians, ydna testing found them to be L21. The Walloon franco-phone regions have elevated R1b-U152. The region of Poitou and Saintonage may hold some clues as they have long been associated with the Franks and are surrounded by other communities. If we assume for a moment that the Franks had limited amounts of R1b-U106 and I1, could they have been predominantly R1b-U152 Northern 'Celtic' peoples who remained in the North and formed a loose confederation of smaller tribes? The names Lotharingia, Merovingia and others have a distinct Northern quality to them, perhaps even Scandinavian or Norse if I may venture into the realm of fantasy.
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