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Immigration Internal European Migrations

julia90

Passione Mediterranea
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Ethnic group
Tuscan-Italian-(European)
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h5b
ITALIANS

Switzerland 800,000
Germany 611,000
France 340,000 (with at least a bit of italian descendance 1,500,000-5,000,000)
Belgium 290,000
Spain 153,700
United Kingdom 100,000


ROMANIANS

Italy 968,576
Spain 829,715
Germany 200,000
Ukraine 150,989


ALBANIANS

Kosovo 1,587,000
Greece 600,000
Fyrom 506,083
Italy 482,000
Germany 320,000
Switzerland 200,000
Serbia 61,647
Sweden 60,000


UKRAINIANS

Russia 1,927,000
Moldova 375,000
Italy 320,000
Poland 300,000
Belarus 159,000
Czech Rep. 126,600
Latvia 54,000
Portugal 52,000


POLES

Germany 2,000,000
United Kingdom 560,000
Belarus 294,500
Lithuania 212,800
Ireland 200,000
Ukraine 144,000
Norway 120,000
Italy 109,000
France 90,000
Russia 73,000
Czech Rep. 51,900
Latvia 50,900


MAKEDONIAN SLAVS


Italy 92,800
Germany 85,000
Switzerland 63,000


SERBS


Bosnia Herzegovina 1,711,000
Germany 568,000
Austria 350,000
Croatia 201,600
Switzerland 186,000
Montenegro 178,000
Sweden 120,000
France 100,000
Italy 70,000
United Kingdom 70,000
Denmark 64,000


BULGARIANS

Ukraine 204,500
Spain 169,000
United Kingdom 150,000
Italy 130,000
Moldova 90,000
Greece 80,000
Germany 62,000


GERMANS

France 1,000,000
Italy 500,000 (mostly south tyroleans)
Switzerland 266,000
United Kingdom 262,000
Spain 255,000
Netherlands 179,000
Poland 153,000
Austria 124,700
Hungary 120,000
Romania 60,000


FRENCH

United Kingdom 6,200,000
Belgium 6,200,000
Italy 250,000
Germany 104,000
Spain 100,400
Switzerland 95,000


Bosniaks (islamic people)

Germany 158,000
Serbia 136,000
Austria 128,000
Sweden 55,400
Montenegro 53,600


British people

Spain 761,000
Ireland 291,000
France 200,000
Germany 115,000
Cyprus 59,000


Croats

Bosnia Herzegovina 659,700
Germany 227,500
Austria 150,700
Serbia 70,600


Spaniards

France 189,900
Germany 108,400
Switzerland 93,000
United Kingdom 60,000


Swiss people

France 179,000
Germany 76,600


Slovaks

Czech Republic 200,000
Serbia 59,000


Dutch people

France 1,456,900
Germany 350,000
United Kingdom 200,000
Spain 180,000
Belgium 120,900


Hungarians

Romania 1,434,000
Slovakia 520,500
Serbia 293,000
Ukraine 156,600
Germany 120,000
United Kingdom 80,000


Greeks

Cyprus 792,600
United Kingdom 400,000
Germany 294,800
Albania 200,000
Russia 100,000
Ukraine 91,500
Italy 90,000 (mostly Griko and Grecanic people)
 
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Very interesting numbers. Even though not all of those countries are part of the EU there are still huge numbers of people moving to other countries.
The number of Italian people moving through the EU seems quite impressive.
 
Some of the figures are not about migration - peoples of different nationalities always lived accross the borders (like Italian speaking people in Switzerland)
 
Some of the figures are not about migration - peoples of different nationalities always lived accross the borders (like Italian speaking people in Switzerland)

yes, there are calculated those bordering the countries of origin plus those from more distant european areas (plus in some cases more historical migrations, like post medieval migrations etc..)
 
It seems most people like Germany to emigrate into.
 
I wonder where the numbers of Germany are from and who collected this data. Probably in reality the numbers of non-German ethnicities are even much higher!

The problem is that governmental suveys on ethnicity are not permitted, and if assumptions are made about ethnicity, they are based on citizenship only. For example, an ethnic Italian who is a descendant of the first immigration wave to Germany from the 1950s, and who carries a German passport, is counted as a German.

For me personally it gets more obvious when I look at this sheet, which shows the distribution of non-German ethnic groups within the districts of Berlin:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_population_statistics

It is a well known fact and easily to be seen that the largest Italian community is situated in the district of Charlottenburg-Wilmersdorf. However, they've been living there for decades and all carry German passports, so they are not counted as Italians.
On the other hand, the sheet mentions Pankow as a main district for Italians. But Pankow is a district with a very low number of foreigners and non-Germans, except for the bohème and student area of Prenzlauer Berg. And that is the place where the few Americans and Western Europeans in the East of Berlin are living, but as temporary artists and students only.
 
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Bosniaks (islamic people)

I find that offensive. Not every Bosniak is Muslim, just like how not every ITALIAN is Catholic.
 
I find that offensive. Not every Bosniak is Muslim, just like how not every ITALIAN is Catholic.

same


maybe, julia should have place ( christian people ) behind the other names
 
I find that offensive. Not every Bosniak is Muslim, just like how not every ITALIAN is Catholic.
catholic bosnians were counted as croats, as well as otodox bosnians as serbs.
 
These stats appear to be the number of speakers of a language in each country or perhaps partial ancestry, but in no way nationality. It's impossible that there is 6 million French people in Belgium, a country of 10 million inhabitants where only about 4 million are native French speakers.

The 1 million Germans in France are probably the Alsatians who can still speak German.

6 million French people in the UK ? Does that include all the people who have a French surname of Norman origin ? That's nonsense.

In any case I wouldn't trust any of these figures.
 
Belarusians
Russia 808,000
Ukraine 276,000
Latvia 68,000
Poland 50,000-70,000


(Georgians)
Russia 199,000


Czechs
United Kingdom 30,000-90,000
Germany 20,000-50,000


Portugueses
France 799,000
United Kingdom 500,000
Switzerland 193,000
Germany 170,000
Spain 126,500
Luxembourg 54,400


Montenegrins
Serbia 70,000


Lithuanians
United Kingdom 200,000
Ireland 24,000-120,000


Swedes
Finland 280,000
Spain 65,000


Irish
United Kingdom 6,000,000


Slovenes
Italy 83,000-100,000
Germany 50,000


Danes
Norway 52,500
Germany 50,000


Finns
Sweden 470,000
Russia 127,000


(Armenians)
Russia 1,130,500
France 450,000
Georgia 346,000
Ukraine 100,000
Belarus 60,000
 
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