could somebody (like Taranis) explain us (roughly) the official explanation of the satemization process ?- I shall add some personal remarks on this basis implying slavic languages and modern french without go too deeply into details?
I answer to myself (I hope I shall be amiable and tolerant for myself! what a humour)
Centumization and satemization: short abstract (very simplified, maybe simplistic?)
the affected stops of the supposed PIE serie:
*k / *g / *kh / *gh (normal) + *kw / *gw / *khw / * ghw / (rounded velar) + / *k' / *g' / * kh' / *gh' (palatal)
the division, not precisely dated but considered as very early after PIE birth, could have known two phasis; a centumization based on the lost of supposed palatal stops (stops or 'explosivae' with a 'j' or 'y' appendix) being the consequence a primary impossibility to palatalize these stops and AFTER a satemization by lost of the velar stops (with a 'w' appendix, 'u' afterclap as said someones), being the consequence an easier palatalization; shortly said, the palatals were pronounced more in the front of the mouth, the velars more in the back top of the mouth: do hear a popular parisian and the english pronounciations of «car» (
/k'a.R/ [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]>< [/FONT]
/k[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]°[/FONT]
hA:/ [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]or more evident fr. «quiet» [/FONT]
/jE/ [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]>< eng. «quiz» [/FONT]
/k[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]°[/FONT]
wiz/ [FONT=Times New Roman, serif](sorry for the phonetic signs, I have not all the symbols) -[/FONT]
&: the centum stage is not considered as the original one, based on the anatolian I-E languages -
the satemization considered as an 'area' phenomenon (supradialectal spread of phonetic tendancies from a cultural center of diffusion) would be arrived in the North Caspian Sea area – on the mergins (West: ex: baltic – East: indo-aryanic) the satemization is not complete-
&&: the existence of the palatals is supposed by someones as the result of the absorbtion by an explisve consonnant of a faded palatl vowel (front vowel as 'i', 'e' or german 'ü'
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what I am very ready to believe: children rarely pronounce palatal stops at beginning for I know (but I can mistake here)[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] - [/FONT]
secondary palalizations occurred in languages previously considered as 'centum' – and in slavics, later palatizations occurred too – we can see that later -
if someone, interested and «qualified» as Taranis, want to explain better than me this rough explanation, he mays do it – he would be welcomed!